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Undiagnosed Where Does Abuse Start, Where Ptsd...

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Sheila_a

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Hello!

Great to know there is such a community to support each other.

I'm searching for explanations and finally found myptsd.
After reading Pete Walker’s ‘Complex PTSD’ and many articles about PTSD and its causes, I started to see some of my patterns through a different reading frame and also found explanations to notions I had since a long time. Something, I am sure, many of you are sharing.

The reason I started investigating in the first place, is a recovery journey after a relationship with a man who had narcissistic personality disorder. Moreover I realized that all the 3 ‘important relationships’ I had in my life where with extreme fight types and in one case quite surely with a sociopath. This was a wake-up call and made me asking: how and why. Otherwise I would still think, there is no reason for me to consider the possibility of maybe being a trauma survivor since childhood…

In many ways it feels as if a puzzle is coming together, piece by piece. But there are ruptures, too, and I feel myself struggling. Over Christmas I had the opportunity to observe some attitudes of my parents, live and in action, while visiting them. I observed some shocking ways of interacting (among them and also with me) are indeed present and probably haven’t been any different, when I was a child (and some, I fear, I maybe have adopted myself!). At first I felt my heartbeat accelerating and then realized, that I couldn’t react appropriately. Later, reading Walker that night again, it became clear to me, I might have had a flashback.

My problem is, the picture is incomplete. Firstly, I am almost sure, my parents also gave us children (I grew up with one older sister) attention and genuinely cared for us. They have compassion and are preoccupied about our well-being. Nevertheless there also was this feeling of insecurity and utter helplessness, (father’s alcoholism, constant bad mood and accusing me of being responsible), feeling rightless and shamed (extreme dominance, spanking). Also, compared to Walker’s examples, I think I’m far from swinging to those extremes of “all black and white”, for example. Generally I feel quite well, do normally feel life energy. So I subjectively thought. At least before I understood what my former romantic partners really were. And there is this feeling of being so different… Great insecurity when I need to speak in front of huge groups, repeating shocking events in play in childhood.

Last night I woke up with the understanding, I am in an extended flashback (10 days now) since my Christmas-parent-visit. But again, it’s not the devastating situations I read about, I think. It feels more like a slight depression, an introspective period of time, where I am dedicating myself to all those questions. Now I’m wondering whether I’m just too susceptible to ideas – which made me prone to end up with narcissists, too, in my past! - , or if there is more about it. I guess, there must be more…

Sorry, this got longer than I wanted!
 
I'd highly suggest talking to a therapist if you can. It could be depression, it could be PTSD it could be something else. It may even be something you inherited from your family (anger and irritation can be manifestations of depression-so you may have inherited his mental illness).

Take your time and think it through, try to identify what you're feeling and why, write it down if you can to bring to your doctor or a therapist. We don't always remember the way we felt in that moment, so having a record may help considerably.

Other than that-welcome :)
 
Thanks a lot! :)

Over the last 1,5 yrs I have read almost 40 books on the topic and related ones. In my daily work I'm dealing with clients who often suffer mental health issues.
I know that my path will be further exploring myself and keep growing (no matter what the diagnosis is, or IF there can be a clear one at all..), I mean this also in a spiritual way. In a way, personal develpment to me is always also spiritual development. So, that's a good thing.

The reason I was raising the questions in my first letter, was also to find out, whether such perspectives and doubts sound familiar or rather unusual to others and what other peoples' experiences are? I am not expecting a clear diagnosis.
 
They're entirely familiar. Most of us, I suspect, have doubted whether our experiences were really "that bad" or if we were somehow doing it to ourselves. I know I have (and have read about others mentioning it).

That's why I suggested a therapist. They're objective and have more professional information on identifying as well as methods than any of us have on an internet forum :P They can talk to you, and help set your doubts and fears to rest.

Mentioning that you were around narcissists also makes me think that perhaps there is more damage there than you realize. Narcissists can be toxic nasty sorts that can damage for a lifetime-especially when experiences in the early developmental stages of childhood.

You could have also repressed certain memories that you simply weren't capable of dealing with because they were too traumatic. I have heard some who have stated as much, though I have never experienced it myself, and I'm trying to get over some skepticism instilled by the early 80s issues with "recovering memories" and the rash of negative media that came out about it. Some have said it has happened to them, and I choose to believe them, because to doubt anyone's experience as genuine leads down a long and nasty road I'd rather not walk (again).

So, yes, it's entirely expected and fairly common, from what I can tell. :)
 
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