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Ywca And The Believe About Ptsd.

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I don't believe it is particularly helpful to be putting seeds of doubt into the diagnosis' of newbies with a history of sexual assault. (Re: replies in the introduction forum)

Many of us fought long and hard to get this diagnosis. Myself included, as I was misdiagnosed for over 18 years. In a psychological world that lives and breathes by the DSM, we NEED this diagnosis so that professionals dealing with insurance know how to work with us. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to work outside of the insurance based system where labels can easily be dismissed because money comes from private donors. I think it is important to remember this.

I think you're on a crusade to change things to fit your world view. This idealism (and a bit of centricism) isn't uncommon in college. However, as I posted in your threads when you first joined, we are all different and it is important to keep these differences in mind. No one thing heals all. No one opinion is right while the others are wrong.

My only hope is that the women's movement changes from being less about one sex versus the other to people versus a problem. Currently, men are still sidelined in the war on sex abuse, as are women abused by women (although to a lesser extent). The gung-ho pro-women's movement unfortunately has these unwanted effects.
 
Solara you are contradicting yourself, you are saying Ashdawn must stop writing about her ideas but then you no opinion is right or wrong. Just wanting to clear that up or maybe I'm reading your post wrong.
 
I am done responding to this thread I respect everyone's opinions.

Wanted to share this workbook and a new way of healing for sexual abuse.

And yes there is issues with diagnostic criteria, yes there are issues with certain healthcare systems, and yes there are issues with medications.

And yeah I'm entitled to my own opinion and I apologized to you via messages and respect your opinion.

Doesn't mean I'm right doesn't mean I'm wring but I have battled the healthcare system for 12 years and did not get anywhere until I overdosed. So I share.
 
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We are all different here. Some have gotten validation from being properly diagnosed. Some may believe the diagnose leaves them doomed. Some will use the diagnosis to receive the right treatment. Some will use the diagnosis for an excuse for bad behavior and do nothing to change. The symptoms, the degree of symptoms, and our uniques lives will effect us differently from one another.

I see the need to use the term of trauma rape syndrome as a way of clarifying that it was this one incident that caused this set of symptoms opposed to lifelong abuse. It may be interpreted my some that it is this one incident that caused this, eliminating one having a predisposition toward developing ptsd due to childhood events, and be a way of laying the blame squarely on the actions of the perpetrator. I think Anthonys post above describes it perfectly. Ashdawn is entitle to her opinion and she states above that she has a different opinion about how diagnosis are made and the intention of the people who make the diagnosis and make up the criteria. While most of us see this as an attempt to reinvent the wheel, she is exploring these new ideas for herself and sharing them here. Maybe she has been misdiagnosed, or has not been diagnosed with ptsd.

The workbook by Copeland-Healing the Trauma of Abuse is a good tool for women and womens groups, even those who have not been raped or suffered any form of sexual abuse. It explores issues specific to women. Women in recovery from addiction have a different set of problems than men in recovery. During alcohol/drug abuse they may have had sex with multiple partners, feel guilt and shame, and have a pattern of relapse from feelings of low self worth. Depending on age, many of us women were taught nothing about our sexuality, what to expect, have developed beliefs about our behavior and bodies that are distorted views. Some women were raised without the ability to say NO to a man for various reasons.

I have previously commented on this thread and have been hesitant to back my resources. I have a masters degree and am licensed and DO diagnose clients. I also specialize in womens issues and worked for 10 years with a YWCA. I used this workbook with womens groups who were primarily domestic violence victims. It is not unusual that within a group of domestic violence victims, a high percentage have also encountered some form of sexual abuse during their life, everything from stranger rape, child molestation, to the inability to say NO due to lack of assertiveness. Some have encountered sexual harrassment, work place or otherwise. Even those who have not encountered any form of sexual abuse have found the workbook very beneficial (including the section on sexual abuse) as they go back out into the world of dating after 20 yrs of marriage. It also provides awareness for all women. This workbook could benefit many women in prevention as well.

Again, often these agencies (sexual abuse and domestic violence services) that operate under the umbrella of a YWCA program and that are funded by grants offer good services but are limited by their funding sources. For this reason, they often provide emergency shelter services, crisis lines, advocacy through legal system as primary services. The goal is to help many-funding is often dependent on the numbers of clients served. during Often there is little funding for individual counseling service. For this reason, they are often limited on the number of individual counseling services they are able to provide and it is more cost effective for their professionals to get clients into groups. Because of this, they often do not have the benefit of getting a thorough history with each client and work with the presenting issues. A thorough assessment before making a diagnosis often requires 3-5 hours of individual sessions. Even then, diagnosis is often not clear and may be deferred or changed at a later time. Therefore, in agencies such as the YWCA, there are terms used, such as Trauma Rape Syndrome that will qualify the client to participate in a particular group, (COST EFFECTIVE) or that will be a starting point for individual treatment. If a therapist met with you one time and confirmed ptsd diagnosis-there would be a problem.

Obviously, some programs are larger and have more funding than others depending on many factors. However, it is not unusual that following treatment on these specific issues, the therapist may refer the client to another local therapist that specializes in the issues that arise during this treatment. (specialists in addiction, eating disorder, ptsd/trauma, BPD, other co-occuring , etc). In one sense, I am defending Ashdawns position, as I believe that if a professional has told her that she suffers from Trauma Rape Syndrome, that is probably accurate. However, that does not mean that she does not have ptsd and it certainly cannot be confirmed here on this forum.

I have a great respect for Anthony's opinion and ability to differentiate diagnosis here on this forum. However, I have read posts of those who want to be given a diagnosis of ptsd and cant get it, and others who dispute the diagnosis of ptsd that they have been given. With all of the information on the internet, there are also people who will report and even articulate symptoms that they do not even have, not necessarily out of dishonesty, but due to the power of suggestibility. Again, having the upmost respect for Anthony's accuracy and expertise on the subject-there is nothing that will replace face to face counseling, intake, thorough history/assessment.

Ashdawn, I think it is wonderful that you have gotten into this program after waiting 8 months. I do think the workbook you are using will be very beneficial. While I disagree with your inability to trust how diagnosis is made and disregard for the DSM, which I have great respect for, therapists are not perfect and do make mistakes in diagnosing. Maybe you have been misdiagnosed. Your enthusiasm is a gift. It sounds like you are on a journey of discovery. Just my opinion, but I believe many others here are in disbelief because they DO have ptsd, and feel that RTS is minimizing or negating the extent of their suffering. Regardless of what the diagnosis is, I also believe that the healing one can achieve has more to do with the individuals ability than the diagnosis. By ability, I mean many things-clearly internal abilities but also access to treatment, health, unique circumstances, support system, social/environmental factors, financial resources or lack of, and much more.
 
Thanks Brat17. That helped a lot.

I don't disagree completely with the diagnostic manual and I think it does serve a purpose, but just from MY experience and my experience only, the issues I have encountered has led me to take care of myself and really get a great psychiatrist by really researching different psychiatrist in my area, I now have 3 therapists who all know each other in my community. My psychiatrists beliefs go along with mine and he does things like waive fees and isn't motivated by money. I am not saying all motivation by money is bad, just from my experiences the ones that really care are really there for you and want you to heal even if it means one day you won't have to see them anymore or spend money at appointments and medications in the future. My psychiatrist isn't about heavily medicating and using medications like benzos, that actually (he showed me the research) make PTSD worse. I was heavily medicated before I met him and he did not like that at all. As I believe and he and my therapists believes healing is a choice.

I really like the YWCA and hope to develop a lot of self skills from there. :)
 
Solara you are contradicting yourself, you are saying Ashdawn must stop writing about her ideas but then you no opinion is right or wrong.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said this!
 
You were advising me not to offer my opinions on someone's introduction page. I think that is what he meant. Calm down. We are in disagreement but that doesn't mean we should be fighting. I am guilty and take responsibility for the miscommunication on this thread. I am not trying to upset anyone. Let's all look past our disagreements and just know and have some trust in each other, that we are all trying to help each other not hurt.
 
I said I didn't think it was particularly helpful. I didn't say "shut up your opinion is wrong" or anything even close to that! (Read, people, read....) And, I backed it up by saying exactly why I didn't think it was helpful.

And really? You're one to talk about me needing to calm down after you went off on me earlier in this thread? Geesh.
 
Solara I just said I was guilty of miscommunication and not respecting your opinion and I sent you a conversation message and even apologized on here because I misread your thread.

And yes you might not agree that it is particularly helpful but I am doing really great so I do believe it is helpful and that is fine if you don't.
 
Lol okay because an apology is spam. Have a great day. I hope you find peace and the opportunity to heal! Take care :)
 
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