Sexuality is not black and white for most people. We all fall on a bell curve. Some people are 100% gay, others 100% everyone else falls somewhere in between.
People often mistake western values for christian values. I was raised in an extreme fundie home. I can honestly say I have read the bible from front to cover more times than most biblical scholars, no joke. Let's forget Paul for a moment. I could debate that until the end of the world, imho anything he said is irrelevant. Besides, if people actually cared about enforcing what Paul said, Christians would be wearing hijabs too. Hijabs are totally biblical. :eek:
Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, so let's go back to the old testament. Sodom and Gomorrah, destroyed because they were gay right? Wrong! They were destroyed because they tried to rape angels. Now, I have heard it said that it was because the angels were male. Meh, the bible specifically states that the men wanted them because they were so beautiful. Gender as the cause was never mentioned. Basically it was a warning that you don't f*ck with the angels.
But what about the verse that that says it is an abomination for a man to lie with a man like he does with a woman? It had nothing to do with homosexuality at all. It was a list of health and hygiene laws. All of those laws were written to keep a low population group from getting sick and to encourage breeding due to their complete and utter lack of hygiene. It is even written which day of a woman's cycle her husband has to have sex with her, which also correlates to day of ovulation. At that time regular sex was kept to a minimum and sex that didn't have the highest probability of producing a healthy child was an abomination.
Now for the BIG ONE. King David most beloved by god was Bisexual. Infact he preferred men over women. The bible is pretty clear about David and Jonathan getting it on, but people squirm over that part if they read it at all. Or they claim "laying" with someone and "laying" with someone means different things depending on the sexes involved. I mean, the bible does say David loved jonathan more than he did women and choose spending the night in crying emotional love fest with Jonathan instead of jonathans sister who worked so hard to seduce him.
I am rambling now. So if religion wasn't involved, what would you identify as?
People often mistake western values for christian values. I was raised in an extreme fundie home. I can honestly say I have read the bible from front to cover more times than most biblical scholars, no joke. Let's forget Paul for a moment. I could debate that until the end of the world, imho anything he said is irrelevant. Besides, if people actually cared about enforcing what Paul said, Christians would be wearing hijabs too. Hijabs are totally biblical. :eek:
Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, so let's go back to the old testament. Sodom and Gomorrah, destroyed because they were gay right? Wrong! They were destroyed because they tried to rape angels. Now, I have heard it said that it was because the angels were male. Meh, the bible specifically states that the men wanted them because they were so beautiful. Gender as the cause was never mentioned. Basically it was a warning that you don't f*ck with the angels.
But what about the verse that that says it is an abomination for a man to lie with a man like he does with a woman? It had nothing to do with homosexuality at all. It was a list of health and hygiene laws. All of those laws were written to keep a low population group from getting sick and to encourage breeding due to their complete and utter lack of hygiene. It is even written which day of a woman's cycle her husband has to have sex with her, which also correlates to day of ovulation. At that time regular sex was kept to a minimum and sex that didn't have the highest probability of producing a healthy child was an abomination.
Now for the BIG ONE. King David most beloved by god was Bisexual. Infact he preferred men over women. The bible is pretty clear about David and Jonathan getting it on, but people squirm over that part if they read it at all. Or they claim "laying" with someone and "laying" with someone means different things depending on the sexes involved. I mean, the bible does say David loved jonathan more than he did women and choose spending the night in crying emotional love fest with Jonathan instead of jonathans sister who worked so hard to seduce him.
I am rambling now. So if religion wasn't involved, what would you identify as?
