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Some Ts do touch and some don't and it's ok to ask him what his stance is.

One thing that stood out for me though is that you're leaving the session highly distressed and think him touching you might help you open up more. I'd say it seems like you're already working beyond your tolerance level given how distressed you are and if anything might benefit from slowing down a bit and taking time to settle yourself before the end of session. So, touch to help you open up more might be counter productive.

Touch does serve a lot of different purposes and it's ok to want comfort, care or just a bit of human contact - your T may or may not be ok about that, you'll only know if you ask him. And if he says no, it's about it boundaries, training or ethics - not about you and whether it was right to ask.
 
Different therapists have different perspectives and different training on using safe touch. It is actua...
Hi @Lissar! For my own edification and hopefully for all of ours - did you seek out a somatic therapist? If I want to look for a touch therapist, I was just curious whether I should look under Somatic Experiencing or TRE, etc.
 
I don't have a somatic therapist, specifically and he hugs. He just agrees with that type of modularity and says that hugs can be healing when used correctly and safely. He understands that hugs aren't for everyone, but as he said...he's a total huger in real life and to his patients if they need it.

He is a trauma therapist, but utilizes a broad number of areas based on what each client needs.
 
Hi @Lissar! For my own edification and hopefully for all of ours - did you seek...
No, she's not a specialist in SE, and any real body-based therapy where touch is inherent. She just had a supervisor who was comfortable and competent in using touch, and taught her to be as well. I have two therapists right now who are working together, and they use similar therapeutic approaches, but one feels she can use touch competently and one doesn't. I guess it's just kinda hit or miss sometimes. Sorry this isn't more helpful!
 
Super strong 2nd to Suztigs response.

I feel like it would make me open up so much more. It's always the moment when he's like "we have to stop there", I stand up, literally face wet with tears, trying not to even look at him, he opens the door for me and my heart sinks as I walk out.

I'm a super physical person, but the piece that really grabbed me in what you wrote is right here in bold;

Hugs = Open Up MORE
END of Session = When you want to hug.

Not as a closure, but as a continuance.

Maybe less about the physical contact, & more about wanting more time?

So perhaps lengthening your session so you have more time, but absolutely making sure the time is spent so that you're not leaving leaving the session not only in active distress, but increasing distress that leads you to melting down in the bathroom!
 
My p-doc realised, years before I finally started to kind of get it, that my trauma has super-screwed my personal boundaries. He wouldn't touch me except a couple of times when he took my pulse, and even then he explained before what he was doing and why it was necessary (geez, just take my pulse already!) and then checked in with me after to make sure I was okay.

What he seemed to get, and I'm slowly learning, is if a guy makes contact with me, the primitive parts of my brain that got screwed from my trauma get majorly confused. One of the results is I lose my sense of where the healthy boundaries should be.

In addition to what @Suzetig said about him, his boundaries and his training, for some Ts with some patients, I think there can be a concern that physical touch may impact a trauma victim's own subconscious understanding of the healthy boundaries in the T/patient relationship.

I don't think I explained that well, but I do know that it's something that my Ts and p-docs over the years all seem to have picked up when dealing with me, and they've found other ways to make a safe, healthy, trusting relationship not involving physical touch.
 
I think you've explained it really well. I know for me there are times when touch would be a very bad idea. My T and I hug very occasionally but only at the end of session and only when I'm calm and grounded - usually before one of us in on holiday for a time or we won't see each other for a few weeks.

I know she does touch other clients, she's told me she is ok with touch but I know she is careful with me because touch screws up the parts of me that struggle with attachment and, when I'm in that place I would let anyone do anything to me if it made them not leave me. I know she's trying to show me that safe, reliable, caring relationships aren't physically exploitative or harmful. For me, while I might desperately crave touch as a comfort when I feel vulnerable, it would be the worst thing therapeutically.
 
Hello to my new PTSD Friends! Just found this site recently and this is my first post. This thread is really relevant to my current experience in therapy and I wanted to share that with y'all.

A little background to set the scene: I have been seeing my current therapist for 8 years. While we have had plenty to talk about during that time period, it is only in the last few months that I have been able to even kind of broach the subject of the ongoing sexual, physical and emotional (all boxes checked, unfortunately) abuse that happened throughout my childhood. And, the only reason it came up for me is that my executive functioning was becoming increasingly impaired from spontaneous dissociation. It resulted in short-term amnesia, which made remembering everyday things like paying bills, meeting deadlines, completing or just even remembering my assignments in the first place, almost impossible. For the first time I was overdrawn at the bank and late on the electricity bill. And the utilities. And the insurance. And, and, and...the list goes on. Anyway, a family gathering over the holidays triggered some ugly flashbacks and add to that the stress of potentially losing my husband in a risky, yet medically necessary surgery and voila! I am opening up to Tdoc about that which cannot be named.

Ok, fast forward to this past month. Enter somatic therapy experience that has absolutely rocked my world and lifted my healing to previously unimaginable and accelerated levels.

Prior to current T, I had been in and out of talk therapy for decades. It helped to a certain extent, but something was always lacking. We were helping the mind, but ignored the fact that said mind is attached to a body and that needs to be incorporated if healing is to truly take hold and sink in on a cellular level. Unlocking the trauma that got frozen there.

So after 8 years of building trust for such a time as this, T suggested we do some holding to help the younger parts of me that are emerging feel safe and nurtured.

So far we've got Six year old, Nine year old and 16 year old versions of me (coincidentally the ages match the point the trauma occurred and got stuck in time) and they are all terrified and don't know what a hug that lasts more than 20 seconds would feel like because, well, none of them ever had that experience before.

Everything was done in a gentle and incredibly respectful way with permission asked and granted to sit next to me on the couch. Then the question: would you like me to put my arms around you? A nod in the affirmative and I was esconced in arms that held me so protectively and lovingly that I felt like I was being held by God and a heavenly host of angels. Like some portal to the Divine opened up to cradle my existence. It was amazing and scary and needed and hopeful and bat-crap terrifying all at once.

Then, the shaking started. Involuntary trembling so intense I thought I would vibrate right off the couch. T had a good hold though and, after a long while of tremors ripping through me, my body relaxed in her arms. Then, more shaking and relaxing; shaking then relaxing until after about 40 minutes of this, the shaking subsided and I was finally able to feel peace, maybe for the first time ever.

It has been a few sessions now of shaking and sharing and relaxing and stillness in the arms of this compassionate T. Six year old has even felt brave enough to share details of what happened to her that she has never told a living soul. It is amazing how being held and cherished while sharing something so intimately painful and secretive is absolutely transfiguring.

This is only my experience and what is working for me, as you know. May not work for everyone. Yet, in my little world, it is the most meaningful experience of therapy I have ever had. It feels like the piece that has been missing all along has been found. So simple, being held and nurtured and loved, yet so succinctly meeting an ancient need, an existential longing, that should have been met decades ago by family but was not.

An unmet necessity of life locked in time, suspended and almost forgotten. Almost, until an intuitive T took a chance and dared to break through all the darkness to find me and to simply hold me. Showing me how Love Wins.

It's an ongoing process to be sure. Will keep you posted on the non-linear trek to wholeness and the bumps and bruises along the way if you are interested. Thank you for letting me share this turning point in my journey. It is so nice to feel so NOT alone right now.

Be well, Friends.
 
My therapist hugs me after every session it did take years to get to a point where i would allow it as i was very severely sexually abused and did not like any touch from anyone and never really had safe touch. that is kind of why she started it and now i like sometimes ask for more than one hug. it makes me feel safe and she makes me feel safer than anyone and its really a comfort for me to be honest and something i have begun to like need from her. Its nice and comforting and i believe it is up to the therapist my therapist would never have hugged me if i had not been ok with it she asked and i do crave that touch sometimes i have texted her i just want a hug. I always thought others would find it weird of me to hug my therapist so have told no one kind of comforting to see others get hugs too. she actually believes it is therauputic for me so i guess it is up to the therapist.
 
Wow OP, I thought I was the only one with this feeling. I also am female with a male therapist and feel like I'd be rejected as well. Problem for me is, early on, I explained how I dislike hugs and they make me uncomfortable. However, since I am going through a tough time and no real support system, so lately, I feel like I badly wanna hug him, the urge is very high in session but I am too scared to say anything. Let me know how it works it if you decide to be bold and ask.
 
I read a couple books and "Trauma and recovery" by Judith Herman is still considered "the bible" on the subject, at least according to several therapists I have spoken with about it and I remember she said anything like that, any physical contact beteween the therapist and client was a real big no no. Also, I recall she spoke about it in terms of "the client has a real high percentage probability of wanting to do this, but you can't." So I would say no, it's a really bad idea and if the therapist agrees to do it that is not good either. IMHO

I also want to say that years ago when I was first starting to realize I was sexually abused I was seeing a naturopath. She was a midwife too and delivered our last child in our home. She did cranial sacral with me and I wept uncontrollably. I was not ready for that and I had no idea where it was coming from. She told me that it often happened when a person who had been sexually abused was touched in that way, a safe, non sexual way. I know I still have that in my body. That reaction, it's still there. I have done some "bodywork" since then but I think you have to be really careful about it, any kind of touching or intimate contact. Which touching is for me) Especially if sexual abuse is your issue.
 
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