Poll How Many Of Us Are Armed?

[MyRock]

Unfortunately, I live in california... So I wasn't able to get my ccw permit because I wasn't the victim of a "significant trauma"... Well, now it's too late, and the love of my life is dead. Now I have my ccw... I really despise stupid people.

 

[Naoru]

I carry nothing but my hypervigilance and ability to run.

Maybe a little fighting spirit, too.

 

[SophiaWisdom]

This turned into such a great discussion!

Says to attaker "just give me a sec I'll get the blade out" *pulls out the file by mistake* "damn it!" :rolleyes:

omg I'm dying - you make weapon carrying hilarious and fun

I am a pacifist as well, so having weapons does not make one not an pacifist.

Yes same here! I hate war but see some historical wars as necessary

It's enough of a struggle trying to turn my hypervigelance off without subconsciously feeding that fear by arming myself. But that's just me.

That's what I tell myself to comfort myself when I'm out alone and I regret no longer having pepper spray. I just say that my environment is safe.

I carry nothing but my hypervigilance and ability to run.

So part of my victim mentality was my father constantly telling me I'm too weak to fight so I should learn to run (he didn't abuse me that was my mother but they both called me weak bodied). I HATE running and as a dancer my knees aren't doing well. I recently became a certified aerial dance instructor so one thing I was able to do (before my CPTSD flareup took away my ability to exercise) was CLIMB like a mother - which apparently escapes elephant attacks better in the Serengeti (hey give me something). So I may not be able to run fast, but I can scale things others can't and I'm small and light so hopefully I can climb quickly and into weird places, and also hang by one arm or the back of a knee if I have to.

 

[Ronin]

Depends.

As in, I'm armed, but I'm also regarding rather shit laws that may and often do keep me from using anything but verbal self defense.

So I don't even know how to answer this question, given where self defense is at stake, all of the being armed is quite useless in my current situation. Mostly I keep the weapons on me for practice & training & empowerment purposes.

 

[asadafagahajakal]

Depends.

As in, I'm armed, but I'm also regarding rather shit laws that may and often do keep me from usi...

Loopholes, ever tried looking for em? Lol I'm kidding I don't know which country that flag is but I know in canada the way you get away with it is remain silent when being questioned and don't pull anything out unless your life is in danger.

 

[Ronin]

Loopholes, ever tried looking for em?

Loopholes are bullshit.

That work for white, wealthy, abled, -et cetera, men.

I'm not that, so I think I'll pass.

 

[NoWhereKnowWhere]

Loopholes are bullshit.

That work for white, wealthy, abled, -et cetera, men.

I'm not that, so I think I...

I've never thought about it before but that is so true.

 

[asadafagahajakal]

Loopholes are bullshit.

That work for white, wealthy, abled, -et cetera, men.

I'm not that, so I think I...

No direspect, but Loopholes and knowing the law enough to nicely tell a cop to f*ck off is something anyone but a rich white healthy man would need to do. Exploiting the law is for the unwanted like us and the tax evaders. I know because I'm autistic and I've had to study a bit of the law so I can assert my authority as a citizen to get cops to leave me alone.

 

[Sideways]

Exploiting the law is for the unwanted like us and the tax evaders.

I get why you might want to know about whether people with PTSD arm themselves.

But I don't see how encouraging people to arm themselves helps you, or anyone else. I don't see how encouraging people to find loopholes in the law in order to arm themselves helps you, or anyone else.

There are people from all walks of life, from all over the world, who read these threads. Encouraging unlawful carrying of weapons, to the wrong person, could easily make this world a lot more dangerous for you and me. So I'm not sure what purpose this sort of post is intended to achieve, but maybe keep in mind that you have no control over who your audience is.

 

[asadafagahajakal]

I get why you might want to know about whether people with PTSD arm themselves.

But I don't see...

Loopholes was the wrong word. My bad. But if you're in real danger, I don't see why it's a bad thing to carry something appropriate for the level of threat. I'm not encouraging anyone to pack heat. That was the wrong word for doing something that is a right in your juris diction or is necessary to protect your life and limb. Many people refer to those as "loopholes", so I resorted to that word.

 

[ground crew]

Without being shot or shooting someone i love (or myself), i have had all the worst experiances with guns. As a cabbie, guns were periodically pointed at me. Once my cab was peppered with fire as i speed away.

My exe had boarderline personality disorder, so the shotgun i bought to protect the family was a reminder of her father's suicide and became a trigger for her. Eventially she went suicidal/homocidal... Again. She threatened me with a knife... I was armed... I couldn't draw, i had no intention of shooting her... I was helpless but armed... Horrific.

I was once picking up my son from his job at the mall at closing. The cash was coming out with the crew, happy jovial kids when someone walked aggressively towards the bag carrier demanding the money. I had a concealed weapons permit and was armed. I moved for position and put my hand on my weapon. My son saw this and told what turned out to be a freind pulling a prank to stop. That incident shook me up bad. I could have shot a good and loved child for a prank.

At some point, the guns just took up space in a gun locker. I never went shooting. I got rid of them. I have never regretted that decision. Before i had guns and drove taxies, i would never have had a chance to draw anyway. My defense was to flee in most cases. Once, i disarmed the bad guy and came close to killing him. Long story... A bad memory.

I have never needed a gun. The times i wanted a gun, it was good i didn't have a gun.

 

[Anarchy]

Loopholes are bullshit.

That work for white, wealthy, abled, -et cetera, men.

I'm not that

Exactly! And gunlaws are to keep those who are not in the privileged caste (in the English speaking world, that politically privileged caste tended to correlate with WASP) from the means to assert their individual rights to peaceully enjoy life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It prevented them from getting uppity, and cleared the way for the blue costumed heavies employed to safeguard privilege at the expense of the UN privileged, to put them back into their place.

Historically, Britain's gun controls and state sector policing, were modelled on what was being done to subjugate Ireland and the other Imperial possessions. Britain's gun laws were intended to disarm the "working class"

America's gun laws, had their origins in keeping blacks defenceless, hence the emphasis on controlling "Saturday night specials" a term of derision for affordable, concealable revolvers.

E A Blair (hopefully he's no relation to Tony B Liar), described fictional "ministries" that had names which were the opposite of what those ministries aims and objectives were. He knew exactly what he was describing. He'd spent the years of the second world war, creating propaganda. Sat in Room 101 in the BBC Broadcasting House. His job was literally to manipulate the opinions of the British public, by bringing their worst nightmares to life, and menacing that public with them.

In terms of gun control, Eric Blair's ministries probably aren't far off. Who exactly is made "safer™" by having the means to defend themselves from an assailant who's bigger, stronger, faster, younger... And really couldn't give a shit about what a law says?

Eric Blair, probably isn't too far off with most present day policies that are claimed to protect people. In the early twentieth century, leading British Fabien, Sidney Webb, published an economics paper, extolling the virtues of a minimum wages law.

What were those virtues?

It would exclude from the workforce; women, young people, people who had physical or learning disabilities, ethnic minority groups, people with physical or mental health issues...

I think that Webb's forecast outcomes were correct, I disagree with his value judgement that such outcomes were desirable. Webb's criticism of the then much freer labour market was that it provided far too many jobs for those groups he sought to have excluded.

How are minimum wages policies sold to us today?

In exactly the same way as gun control laws - they are claimed to protect exactly those groups who they hurt the most.

Incidentally, Eric Blair's pen name was George Orwell.