Another Fight

[Ronin]

I do not understand how...

No how.

They're abusers. Any of the shit they say just doesn't have any relevance or value to be considered at all.

 

[Deleted member 28403]

No how.

They're abusers. Any of the shit they say just doesn't have any relevance or value to be consider...

But some of the stuff might be right

 

[Ronin]

One problem is that a fair bit of psychologists and psychiatrists don't want the responsibility

So someone else that might be helpful, if you're in that so typically eastern shit situation.

Social services, wellfare centres, youth workers, hell, clergy even if you're not religious? Anyone else but people that would just keep pushing and pushing you to a break.

Anyone with an actual human heart & an ounce of feeling.

 

[Ronin]

he argumented it that he could use the time he is wasting on me to actually help others.

If he's as much dirt as to word one's patient complex case as 'wasting time', he isn't good to anyone much either. So no need to feel guilty that he's not 'helping others' as it sounds his 'help' would be bad quality on all sides.

& Multitasking is a thing. Professionals do that. Nice he's showing he's not one.

 

[Ronin]

some of the stuff might be right

Yes.

But the right message doesn't make up for a shit delivery. Two different things; and even if it's right, no one needs to be an abusive twat about it.

 

[ladee]

After four years this guy should know you very well.
He sounds frustrated. But him being the professional should try a different approach wth you.
You have changed Sael. Do you see change? Or feel any change?
Its hard when you don't have the words to express yourself and he is not helping you with that.
But feel the suggestions @scout86 made will help you sort things out.
You are supported and really like it that you brought this forward.
Hope it gets sorted out..as you have limited resources.

 

[talon]

So, last time I had a theraphy session, and this time also, I've been sorta fighting with my psychiatri...

I have one observation you have analyzed your Psychiatrist and from where i'm sitting it's spot on. Who is the patient here ? Who is the expert on your illness him or you. The answer is you. HE IS THERE TO SERVE YOUR INTERESTS THAT'S WHAT HE'S PAID FOR. I have worked in MH for many years and seen good and bad. Try and be as assertive as possible and try if possible given that MH is a Cinderella service whether in UK or US and work as best as possible to get the right outcome. When he says you do not talk ,listen or want to get better turn the tables and use some Gestalt therapy answering a question with a question .eg Why do you say i don't listen ? Why do you say i do not engage . It works fight fire with fire and have fun with him . Make him earn his keep. Remember professional isn't guaranteed it's only a measurement . If he is called one he needs to prove it . Good luck

 

[Stickler]

So, last time I had a theraphy session, and this time also, I've been sorta fighting with my psychiatri...

Those things he said are kind of contradictory.

You are narcissistic, yet you always focus on other people?

Plus you're not narcissistic. I know you, you're not narcissistic.

I think this guy is off-base, dear.

 

[digger]

some of what he's 'accusing' you of sounds like 'being a teenager', to me.

^^this^^

 

[scout86]

I don't know that this will work with your guy, but it's an idea. My T has pointed out a number of things where my first reaction was that he was wrong. (If not nuts.) Mostly he's been right. But, as I've gotten more comfortable dealing with him, I've learned to handle it by saying something like, "Wait. I'm not sure I get what you mean, can you give me a specific example of when I did that? So I'm sure we're on the same page?" It beats going "do not/do too" when it turns out you're actually NOT on the same page.

Something that bothers me is this business about your 'wasting his time by not talking. That sounds like he's frustrated with trying to get you comfortable with talking to him and he's trying guilt you into it instead. Believe me, I think I've 'wasted' a lot of my T's time by not talking. He doesn't call it that. He calls it 'building a relationship'.

 

[Deleted member 28403]

I don't know that this will work with your guy, but it's an idea. My T has pointed out a number of thin...

I know what you mean with the first paragraph, but when I asked him for a specific example he had varied answers, between me not trying to think out the answer, to something else, remind me to complete when my brain unmushes.

Oh, yea, also, I understand the second paragraph.

 

[Deleted member 28403]

Those things he said are kind of contradictory.

You are narcissistic, yet you always focus on...

Sorta exactly what I've been thinking about when I wrote.