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Question For All My Fellow Dissociators

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Hope4Now

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I am a fairly smart person, but I am pretty clueless on some things. My question to y'all is how do you manage your parts/alters manifesting in the "outside world?" I do have DID and have been diagnosed with Bipolar. And I have fibromyalgia which just complicates everything further.

I am really struggling with my parts running amok. One landed me a 9 day stay in a hospital which was minimally helpful (well, it kept me alive so I guess that's more than minimal!).

The suicidal parts have settled down for the time, but other parts are taking me over regularly. Today, in my psychiatrist appointment, for example, I became aware that I was sitting in an odd position on the sofa and I realized I'd been hijacked by some part. Looked at my watch and nearly 40 minutes of the appointment was over. I don't remember much of what we talked about. On Monday, I was so overrun by parts in my other therapy appointment that I could not do the "safe place" activity he was working on with me, and the only thing that kept me from bolting out of his office was his very loud and firm voice. These are just two of the examples.

My therapy team says I have to let the parts out so they can heal. That I have to stop fighting them off and trying to make them go away. BUT...if I relax enough and let them out, my life will turn upside down. I mean, they're coming out anyway, but they will come out more if I let down my guard. And I do weird things, like hide in small places, or become unable to speak, or act silly like a little kid, or other more self-destructive things. So what I have been doing since I came home from the hospital is going to bed constantly. When I do that, the parts sometimes surface just in my inner world. But I don't want to stay in bed all the time. I used to be able to be around people for longer periods of time. Now I'm down to an hour maximum, before I seem to lose control of keeping parts in.

My psychiatrist says this is all part of the process of healing, and that sometimes things seem like they're getting worse when really they are getting better. But I am feeling totally crazy and out of control. And very fearful that parts will emerge in my social world the way they do at home and in my therapy appointments.

I try very hard to call into the inner world and ask them to stay there, but it is not particularly effective (I don't have a lot of co-consciousness but there's some). I am working a lot on grounding skills, but that is its own challenge because being in my body triggers off parts. And now, apparently, this safe place practice has triggered off more parts.

So I'd love to hear from anybody who might share their experience of managing parts.
 
thanks for the post Hope4Now
I don't have any insight for you. As I am just learning about dissociating and I have not be diagnosed yet for a dissociative disorder. I don't recognize or realize what is happening to me. I loose time from talking to my T he thinks I am doing that a lot and I need to be re assess. thanks for the post I hope you get the answers you need
Peace be safe
 
Not so much saying stay there but saying this is the world we are currently in. I do this, this is your home, stores, bedroom, life. Have times where you are saying it's time to see t, we can't all be out so I'm going to do twenty minutes and if anyone wants to learn and listen you can, its up to you. It's a place where there are rules so let's say give me my twenty and you can have your turn but me first. Keep sending those messages inside even if you don't know who is listening or if anyone is listening. The messages are about getting to know the present while still allowing the past. Also can leave out journals art supplies and again set times for those wanting to express something to come forward. Explain rules like money isn't to be spent without insert name of person to be asked. For us w have the safety rule of no one hurts the body unless insert name here, says it's okay. Of course that person will not say it's okay but will help with fixing the issue that started the need to hurt. My t has always encouraged that even if I don't think anyone is listening or I don't know who they are or where they are they are listening. We've done a lot of painting because it's been available and it's helped see what our system looks like. The whole idea I understand for inside cooperation is to keep telling the rules, the new things and giving time for things to be occurring so others inside don't demand space out when they should not. Teach what you want known over and over is the goal.
 
even if I don't think anyone is listening or I don't know who they are or where they are they are listening.
So it works for you? This talking to the inside world even if you don't get answers or know if anybody is listening? When you set aside time for your parts to come out, do they come out in appropriate ways (like painting) or do they (or did they longer ago) do things that freak you out (like going to places outside the home, or hiding, or destroying things)?

It feels so odd to do this talking into the void. My therapist used to do what he called "public service announcements" to my system. I have no idea what got through or not. So I am sort of doing the same thing on my own now but it feels like it isn't working. Perhaps I just need to do it more? Or in a nicer way? How do you do it--just silently in your head?
 
So it works for you? This talking to the inside world even if you don't get answers or know if anybody...
Yes but at first I was more apt to say to t who recommends this approach, but no one answers, so he says say it anyway, so I do. He is more sure they listening than I am but I trust it's a process. Once yes drawings were torn, shredded so t suggested, one it tells me both about the drawing and the feelings but put it away and thank them for trying. I have one who doesn't like something about t office and has head banged to the point where t put a bunch of stuff near that wall as a no don't do that and the behaviour stopped.i don't know who does what but have consistently said what the rules are and largely all of them get obeyed except the problem of don't hurt the body. Have recently talked to someone who met an insider but reassured me know one else at the meeting knew they were talking. My sense from what he told me was this part needed help and trusted him to reveal he was there. So personally it's trust not what it seems with you where there is no rule following so address that first, but with kindness and teaching especially if you don't know ages. I don't think my inside go do stuff unless it's to relate to people or settings in unique but non threatening to my safety ways. So ya safety is the main goal of getting started. I know I did some work on creating inner places for some and for others to look after them but it was long ago and I don't recall the method that particular t used, but it was a first step. Also my t does say for some to be asked inside to go to sleep if they can do that job so they are not so active when they shouldn't be.
 
Thank you @Links. This is really helpful stuff.

I will try out the suggestion about the artwork. I am, sort of, an artist (there is little to show because there has been a long problem of my destroying all my artwork. I never quite understood why this happened until recently...that there is some part or parts who "kills" it all. Ugh. Maybe will try out your idea.

The self-harm stuff/talking to parts was moderately helpful. Prevented it for several months. Then bam it came out with a vengeance. But will also try talking with more kindness.
 
Thank you @Links. This is really helpful stuff.

I will try out the suggestion abo...
It's not just the kindness, the other piece is one part is ready to trust someone with info the other isn't. So sometimes you say either give me permission or please don't listen to my conversation with t as it is something I want to do privately. As to art if you know for sure you stayed present with art then it is a rule to again not touch what I'm proud of, I'll allow you time to create and destroy if you wish but my creations need to be mine.
 
So I'd love to hear from anybody who might share their experience of managing parts.
I can share with you what I have been learning...My therapist has been teaching me how to communicate with other parts. The first thing that my therapist has emphasized is that she is here to help ME - I am in the drivers seat (even if it doesn't feel that way) and she cannot help ME if other parts are taking over. So she has made it pretty clear that when a part comes into therapy I have to be present. I am not sure how it is for you but it sounds like you are not present for when the changing happens. We are really at the beginning stages but I have to say it is comforting to know that my therapist wants ME present and wants to work with ME. It gives me a greater sense of control and self worth. She does not let me sit in a session for 40 minutes unaware in a dissociated state.
So, communication comes in many forms and is by no means easy for me. One of the exercises that we do is writing to each other. It has been really interesting because it's better than talking in your head or outloud to air....it doesn't feel, at least for me, so crazy. My therapist and I tried something different last week, we did an EMDR session attempting to communicate with a very destructive part focusing on a very hurtful incident that happened. It was the very first time I actually communicated with a part and was able to really listen. That is the brief version of some techniques we are trying.

So you have a"therapy team" what is that like?

~L
 
^ When that happened with us in therapy was the time we've gotten /out/ of therapy.

They can't be helping whoever they *think* is the core if they're not dealing with who helped that someone survive, and how.

But hey, I'm just that team cooperation & respect for everybody, power (back) to the people, and all. Not very popular camp for the therapeutic discourse that's all about integration and ignoring alternative & to some cultures common, perspectives.
 
Thanks y'all for more responses. It's been a bit since I posted this and things are always changing. I'm still struggling with the issues I raised in the original post. A lot. Trying very very hard to stay "normal" in my life that is not connected with others, but against my will it comes out when I am alone (dangerous sometimes, sometimes just exhausting and humiliating and depressing). My therapists seem to think that having parts come out in therapy is not a bad thing, but they are trying to help "me" be present too. except I have lost (or never had) any sense of who "me" is. The me I thought I was through my adult life was clearly a kind of conglomeration of parts that get me through. That much is clear at least, and today, inexplicably, my watcher part was able to tell my therapist about this "team" (his words. sounds way more organized than it feels).

Tonight I am having the backlash of having even told that much about myself. Argh. Blech. Horror. It all came out because he's been working with me to put my trouble-making parts into a locked up safe place so we can actually manage to do emdr with my kid parts. That is going v-e-r-y slowly. But I had a bit of a flip out and said I can't put them in because I need them to get through my life!!!! So that started the awful discussion of which parts I feel like allow "me" to get through day-to-day. And then he said something along the lines of, "You have the most complicated brain of anybody I've ever met." Sigh. It was said compassionately. I know my therapy team is deeply invested in trying to help me sort some of this messy tangle of my parts, and I also know that whenever I actually start to explain some of it, I overwhelm them. So in a bizarre way, it is rather validating. If I overwhelm my own therapy people, no wonder I am always overwhelmed!

The horrible thing about all these parts hijacking me is that when they do it in therapy and the people talk with them, even if I don't remember what happened in the appointment, I feel better. So maybe this means I have to let it happen. Which makes no sense at all to me because I thought the whole point was to NOT have this happen. But they are telling me that this belief is skipping steps and that some of it has to happen if I want to get more integrated. Ugh. I am exhausted. By all of it. Just trying to keep myself safe, basically. One foot in front of the other.
So you have a"therapy team" what is that like?
It is good, mostly. They are very different in many ways, and my sessions are very different with each of them. But they do talk to each other; they're actually friends. And I think I get different things out of each of them. And I know they both want to help me. And I like both of them. And it means I do 3 sessions a week, which is helpful in keeping me stable (though sometimes I think 5 would be way better for a while). But then, on the other hand, I am forever deciding that I ought to just trash the whole therapy thing altogether. So weird stuff.

Right now, I am undergoing a neuropsychological evaluation to help me and them get some better grip on how my f*cked-up brain works. It will be interesting to see what this person has to say about me. Maybe he will come up with something that will help. I hope so. Because it's a grueling experience for my poor tired brain/parts.
 
^ When that happened with us in therapy was the time we've gotten /out/ of therapy.

They can't be helping...

Um...yeah. That was my thought, too. Here's the thing. I have a couple of insiders who have come out in therapy and talked on the condition that I not listen. They were ok with my therapist telling me what they said; in fact, they wanted him to tell me, wanted him to be in the room, with me, when I heard, but they wanted to tell him privately, with all the hurt and pain it was going to take without me hearing and going through all that. One, our almost-4-year-old, was a witness to several murders and never told a soul until just a little over a year ago. She sat on the floor with my therapist in the corner of his office and she cried for the first time ever and she told him bits and pieces. And she made him promise to tell me "easy." Because she didn't want me to have to go through it all like she did.

I never would have known about that and she never would have been able to process that if my therapist insisted that I always be present when my insiders are.

And that has happened more than once.
 
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