• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

Cutting the emotional ties to narcissists

Status
Not open for further replies.
I can relate to some of that.

@Fadeaway I can relate to some of it too, and identify with much of what Scout has already written. My mother died recently on July 6th. I knew she was ill and yet, it changed nothing for me, other than generating guilt, and me having to brace myself against societal judgement "but she was your mother." I think the primary emotion I am feeling is relief. There is grief, but not for her, it is for what I never had, and for the abuse I endured. We were estranged for decades, while it was at times hard, choosing myself seemed to shift my inner landscape.

Like you, I never had the caregiver I deserved. Unsure if any of this is at all helpful. I mean it at least as a show of support and solidarity.
 
I am sorry, I didn't specify, this is my mom's mom, my mom killed her self along time ago. My grandmot...
NO one praised your grandmother, that was the problem. No one gave her a "high five" or listened to her efferts. Suicide is a very hard thing.That was her daughter. She never knew where you came from, it sounds like. ( I am not agreeing with her but I had a grandmother similar) Your grandmother needed help and no one OFFERED. That is what she was waiting for instead of just going and getting it. ( I think back then, it was a sign of weakness) I don't know how she was raised.. but she did keep you off the streets. Your mother put you in that situation.. that's what happened and who you need to be angry at.. that's the whole burden and your grandmother suddenly had no one.. so..

Don' t get me wrong- I'm glad you started this thead becuse I was dating a narc and just cut him off. ( about 3 weeks ago) it was pitaful situation really.. I just couldn't keep helping him and it was sad so, he was total narc. I watched some of the vids utube and it did help. Also, I had a grandmother that was miserable like that because my real mom was gone in the head, so she took us on. She bitched all the time and it was hard to take. She did give me a roof over my head and I didn't go to her funeral. Severed ties, I probably did. I understand her behaviour a little bit better today..but it doesn't make it right. My grandmother, your grandmother ,was never expecting to be a mother again. That was our mothers "job".

Put yourself in their shoes ( for a moment) and then be you again... and get back with me.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
@Deanna's Gap i don't think I agree...

You don't have to.. Im not saying her grandmother was correct by any means. She was troubled also... her daughter did drugs, I mean.. come on. Killed herself.. That is pretty disfunctional. My grandmother was a lot like that. My mother was a schizophrenic. How telling is that?

You don't know someone's story in 96 posts..but that's okay.
 
Last edited:
You are right. And I still don't.
Quit talking to me and PM me.. instead of berating me through a thread. I've reported you twice. The emotional entanglement through some charka is nothing but pure bullshit You are derailing the thread. Most of us need some strong medicines and science, you brilliant pest.
 
You are derailing the thread. Most of us need some strong medicines and science, you brilliant pest.
Who is derailing the thread? You posted an opinion. You were disagreed with. I see no berating here. Thread-banned, and please don't open any more nuisance reports on this issue.

You'll find information on how to use the ignore function here.
 
@shimmerz I am willing to try that. I don't do well with the whole angel thing, but I can substitute. I am in the process of getting my Reiki certification and that just seems like it goes in hand with it. You were not derailing the thread. I am all for alternative therapies. There has been very little in allopathic medicine that has been helpful for me. Granted, I am grateful for the blood tests and MRI's and blood transfusions, but medications don't help more often than they do.

@ShikibuZ Thanks for the show of solidarity. I didn't agree either. I am learning to have more compassion for my mother because I am sure my grandmother played her part in my mothers issues. I am more inclined now to believe I inherited the role of scapegoat from her. My grandmother on the other hand was the beloved baby of her family. I know she was a daddy's girl. Concert pianist, NASA employee

I could have been put with a nice foster family. Despite the fact she used it as a fear tactic for control over me, they don't let 5 year olds live on the streets by themselves. Believe me, my grandmother did it for the sympathy she thought she would gain from it.
 
I don't think it's possible to just switch off our caring about people. Even people who may have been monsters.

This woman raised you, and even though she crapped that job up completely? There's still going to be a natural attachment that develops because she was a significant figure in your life, especially since it was during your development. The fact that part of you still cares is a testament of your character as an empathetic human. It's a good thing, so even if she doesn't deserve it, it's a good quality to be able to have had.

There's also potentially a lot of grief here that will make a simple switching off of the Caring switch harder. You should have been loved by her, and had a beautiful relationship with her, but you missed out on that. There's a lot to grieve about this relationship which complicates the caring issue.

I think preparing for feelings of guilt is going to be tough, but maybe try and approach this the same way you would approach tackling any core belief. Challenge it when you notice thoughts or feelings associated with it, remind yourself about what is and isn't important to you now. And maybe instead of trying to fight the feelings off (which too often turns them into even bigger, nastier monsters) give yourself permission and space to have those uncomfortable feelings, feelings you don't want. It's a bit like, "Oh, there's that empathy/guilt for the old witch again. Don't want to feel that way, don't need to feel that way, but I do. No big deal. Next thought...".

Feelings about her? Don't undermine who you are now, what you value or believe, and they don't actually give any sort of measure about what you've had to survive. They don't reflect her, or what she deserves. They're just leftovers of having spent a lot of time with this particular person during your formative years. So they might be unwanted, but they're perfectly natural and healthy even (on your end - doesn't seem much healthyness at her end).

So, if you had a thought about her and realised "Oh, there I am caring too much about her again", what would happen if you simply acknowledged that thought, and then consciously let go of it? Instead of fighting against it ("Get away you dreaded caring thoughts and feelings, I don't WANT you!!"), just acknowledging that it's a pesky thought that you don't really want but is habitually, naturally there anyway? Would it become a little less powerful maybe?

If anything maybe congratulate yourself - the woman doesn't deserve a second of my time but here I am, decent enough to have cared all these years anyway." Without the struggle against the thoughts, just gently reminding yourself that they're ok but you don't need those thoughts anymore, a lot of the distress may be taken out of the equation.

Either way, it is a distressing situation. I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Be gentle with yourself.
 
If I remember correctly...we once had a lovely online chat gathering for one of your beloved relatives whom had past.
You have always exhibited to me the side of an loving and caring individual.:hug: So I will attempt to offer this as gently as you appear.

Feelings are what make us unique. They are the one thing that are ours and do not need to live up to anyone's expectations. However our actions based on those feelings are where we can shine. You shine, very brightly in love even amidst your pain.
Perhaps your legacy is that you can love...despite what your Grandmother did or did not do...and she was cruel to say those things ...very.

So maybe, your attachment is a sign that you have a heart. So if you can not detach in time...let us support you during your loss- for what you never had and deserved from a parental figure. Mourning loss for many reasons is important...not all of those reasons are based on the one who passes... but that would be OK too.

I still love and loved many family members whom were less than kind or moral ... sometimes it is in our hearts to long for their better selves that might have been.:hug::hug:
 
Fadeaway, I didn't care for the angel part either.

One thing I thought I would mention about the 'cords' that they speak about. I found, for myself that there were different cords for people in my life. Also, those cords included things like 'but I will be alone if I remove my attachment to you', or, 'but I will never know what it would mean to have a loving parent if I cut this cord'. I thought it was for cutting the cords for people only. I started to learn that dealing with any cords that popped into my head as I tried to focus on a particular attachment to someone was the way to go. So if you do try it, don't restrict yourself to the attachment to the person only if you find an image of something else pop up too.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$910.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  50.6%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom