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I suppose my experience being an addict (alcohol) has left me feeling isolated....even on this forum. I have posted my experiences on the introduction thread and nobody replied. I guess I have nothing of any importance to share. (my pity party...there..."huff")

I am 51 years old and was raised in a violent, alcoholic household. My brother died in 2008 at age 38 from his addiction. Mine didn't "show up" until I was aged 32/33 when I moved from Utah to Chicago and married a man from Milwaukee. There literally IS a bar on every corner in Chicago and I think I drank at most of them on the North side (I lived there for 17 years before moving to AZ a year ago). When I started to get black out drunk, I was told by my husband to go get help or he would leave me, (he was more of a binge drinker). I went to an inpatient facility for 2 weeks in 2009 where I was drugged with Seroquel. I was like a drooling zombie. I was back to drinking within 3 weeks after I left. I had my first gran mal (now called generalized clonic tonic) seizure 2 months after I left rehab and had a seizure every single month for almost 2 and a half years. I was still drinking, of course, and would not take the pheno barbital I was given for the seizures, (only took it spottily when I wasn't drinking so much....dumb, I know...but it is that alcoholic brain). I still have the seizures if I do not take medication for them, though I get more focal ones. (the epilepsy, it is assumed, is caused by the multiple concussions I have suffered from over the years....mostly in my childhood from severe beatings......)

I am writing because it seems like I am alone in my addiction. I have been reading as much as I can about PTSD from childhood trauma and the literature states that it is VERY common for people with this diagnosis to become substance abusers. I am about a week from when I was discharged from inpatient rehab and I feel as if I am a deer in the headlights of a fast approaching semi truck. I have read a bunch of literature, go to AA every day....am working the 12 steps as best I can......but I am still isolating in my home. As a result of my violent arrest at the end of October, I am now terrified if I see a police car or truck. There was a knock on my door yesterday and I had an anxiety attack because I was convinced it was the police. It was two old ladies with bibles coming to the door, (I saw them leave from the peep hole I finally got the nerve to look through.)
As I wrote already, I have called 5 different therapists in my area and NOT ONE will see me. One had the kindness to tell me she just wasn't trained enough in childhood trauma to deal with the PTSD AND the addiction.

I can never ever drink again, but sadly...suicidal thoughts are popping into my head again. I feel so isolated...especially since my husband I moved to a very isolated part of Arizona and I have NO friends. My son and daughter (I used to have a very good relationship with her) are in an incestuous relationship and since my son hates me, he doesn't allow my daughter to chat with me.

At any rate....this is how I feel right now.
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I'm sorry you got missed the first time around! That sucks!

you have a huge problem on your hands - but this is a good place to vent about them. I know addiction and ptsd go hand in hand so it is curious to me that you didn't get a response for others in the same boat. I wonder if it isn't something most are brave enough to talk about?

Can you get referrals from your inpatient clinic or someone in AA for a therapist? And do you have an AA sponsor? Some times just having one or two people to talk to can break the isolation cycle. You don't need a whole bunch -- think baby steps.

You are already showing how brave you are -- you can keep going! You just need to get connected with the right people. Yes, you have a unique situation that makes it a bit more challenging - but they are out there!
 
It is a shame your first thread got missed, don't take it personally its just the way things sometimes happen on a forum like this.
I am sorry to hear what you have been through and how it makes your life so tough now.
I have an addiction, not with alcohol but with food, I understand how hard it is living with an addiction. I also know what its like to feel isolated as I don't really have any friends, its just hubby and me and trusting people is hard.
I don't really have any advise for you but just wanted you to know I have read what you wrote and I understand.
Talking on here can be really helpful, I hope you get something useful out of this site that can help ease some of your pain
Take care
 
I suppose my experience being an addict (alcohol) has left me feeling isolated....even on this forum. I have posted my experiences on the introduction thread and nobody replied. I guess I have nothing of any importance to share. (my pity party...there..."huff")
Nope. This is very distorted thinking. Your intro post was long, and longer intro posts don’t get as many replies as quickly. Try to not assume what others think and why they don’t respond.

You are not alone. You don’t get the claim the corner on suffering with addiction. Not even. Not on this forum or in general. Plenty of members here struggle with addiction.

As a result, 52 percent of males and 28 percent of females with PTSD meet the lifetime criteria for alcohol abuse or dependence,
http://www.dualdiagnosis.org/mental...post-traumatic-stress-disorder-and-addiction/
I could cite many other sources with even higher rates of addiction. It tends to be even higher with veterans.

So how about letting the shame go of being a recovering alcoholic and a PTSD sufferer?

As for the battle to find a therapist, you don’t get the claim the corner on that either! ;) :) Omg. Seriously. If I could show you the list of therapists who turned me down before I found the one I have now.

The bottom line is, you are 5 days out of recovery, have a possible legal case pending, and you’ve been to hell and back - and life is throwing a lot of sh*t your way - and yet despite all that, you are still in the fight to recover. Damn, the world needs more incredible and brave people like you.

Focus on addiction therapists. Most of them have at least some experience with trauma, and once you get connected to one, of the trauma recovery is beyond what they can do, they can help with an additional trauma therapist to do deeper trauma work. It sucks to have to do it that way, but it is probably going to work better.

Don’t listen to the lies that it’s time to give up. Nope. Now is the time to hang on.
 
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Nope. This is very distorted thinking. Your intro post was long, and longer intro posts don’t get...


Thanks for the reply. I get involved pretty deeply in my pity parties........
I will look for an addiction therapist first and go from there. Not that it is a good thing to read, but I am glad I am not the only one who isn't having any luck with finding a specialized therapist.

And my thinking is STILL very very distorted...this is going to be a hard thing to break...I ALWAYS think the worst.....if Jesus were to come down and say hello, I would ask him what he wanted.......(if this is too irreverent, I apologize)

I have SO much on my plate right now....and I am all full up!

I'm sorry you got missed the first time around! That sucks!

you have a huge problem on your hands - b...

thanks for replying.

I tend to always take the worst case scenario road.........

I just want to cry and wish all of these issues away, to be honest.......I go to my AA meetings, (where the scars from my arrest scream out into the room) read as much as I can about high ammonia levels in the blood, addiction, PTSD and childhood trauma.....and I get SO TIRED that Ii barely want to leave the couch......

but now I feel better that I am not some kind of freak.....and to find people who DO understand where I coming from......
 
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and I get SO TIRED that Ii barely want to leave the couch......
I hear you. Of course you are exhausted. Like @Justmehere said - you have been to hell and back.

Seconding the advice to seek out addiction therapists first. Getting to the root causes of the addiction behavior with a therapist will be great additional support alongside along with sticking it out in the day-to-day of sobriety management, via AA.

Also, you might want to google for any "dual diagnosis" programs in your area. Dual-diagnosis programs are designed to work with addiction plus. Addiction plus depression, addiction plus PTSD, addiction plus...lots of things. They are sometimes residential, sometimes more of a PHP (day program) structure.

And also, just to echo JMH again - new posts can take multiple days to really pull a breadth of responses. Not everyone is here every day, we have some members who check in every few days, some once a week, some once a month...it's also why old threads can get resurrected, because the whole board is really just one long-ass conversation going back a number of years, and continuing on into today. There's just as much value from writing something out as there is in getting responses back. I know it doesn't always feel like that, but it really does turn out to be true.

I still have the seizures if I do not take medication for them, though I get more focal ones. (the epilepsy, it is assumed, is caused by the multiple concussions I have suffered from over the years....mostly in my childhood from severe beatings......)
Also alcoholism though, long-term, can lead to various kinds of brain storms. Seizure, stroke, aneurism. Right? (Not saying yours aren't a result of the concussions, just saying that drinking can play a part in developing a seizure disorder).
 
I drank for twenty years off and on in an attempt to smash out the negative inner dialogue that plagued me. Not under its influence, I frequently felt self doubt and what I could identify later as anxiety and loneliness.

After PTSD I noticed that drinking would give me anxiety if I didn’t continue to drink after I felt effects wear off. This was entirely separate from the anxiety I would feel from time to time itself.

Drinking had its own anxiety that came with it! Realizing this, I decided to keep drinking anyway to help with my other symptoms.

19 months ago I quit drinking following a car accident that I caused, injuring two people. Racked with guilt and shame, I knew I caused two people traumatic injuries.

I believed that I deserved death and tried to deny hospital treatment to save me. I found myself compelled to change my life and join AA.

I have had to face all of the issues I was numbing out and it is not easy. I do it because I want to feel again. The good things, though the bad has to be felt too! It has to have the chance at proper internalization, no suppression. I can’t truly help others if I can’t feel.

Finally I “feel” human now. I have insights that were simply lost to me. I have and can grow, change and evolve.

I feel the bad yes sometimes and, the good too because now I know how to experience all of it. I have recognized and been set free from many of the distorted views I held in me.

I love myself and others can love me now. Trust me they would not have wanted to before, if they knew what devastation I was capable of all just to numb out this life of disorder.

There is still work to be done as there always will be and there is still wreckage of my life to clean up and that is okay but I don’t want to be perfect, still I have no desire to drink again, not today anyway.

God willing likely never will.

These days I am practicing selflessness, unconditional love and other things I couldn’t have possibly fathomed before.

It makes sense, since I spent my entire life being selfish. If only my innocent tortured child soul knew what he was in for… That will be his life though and he must learn to live with it. He does find peace. Here I am.

I wish you luck on your journeys everyone. The grass is greener as an unaddicted individual, certainly more fruitful!
 
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