• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

ED Disordered eating

Status
Not open for further replies.
I sometimes get stuck in the "I need to try to eat as little as possible each day" mindset, even if on days I go way way over. I have a lot of anxiety around eating, to break that down I have eventually had to start challenging the restrictive voice, and have done so by occasionally deciding to eat a little bit even when I don't necessarily need to.
That is a really clever way to manage it @NinjaWolf!

Usually I have found doing so has given a little bit of reassurance to the part who is concerned I will swing hard back into restriction.
I have to really be aware of this, because if that part takes over the binging begins. Or I eat four or five bowls as "meal" and then continue grazing for the rest of the day.

On days I am less obsessive about food I sometimes decide to challenge the restrictive voice and eat a little more, on the days when the impulses are high I stick to just what I need. This does not always happen.
It is really hellishly difficult at times.

Yes you do need to eat food, and never need to feel guilt about it.
I feel guilt and corrosive self doubt for breathing and being alive, so it permeates my whole life.


Learning about hunger cues is challenging and comes with time and experimentation.
I am really new at this. It is the first time in my life not living in a food coma. It is a totally new world that I have walked in.

Things will overall continue to calm down, I think you are doing honest work and then you will start to notice the hunger cues. Sometimes it is a little mental investigation because I think for some people even without trauma or mental health issues being in their body is not particularly natural or comfortable.
Absolutely! There are many people discussing on Connect (the Weight Watchers type of forum like this one) discussing their depression, anxiety and emotional eating, the challenges that we have with food are widespread in our communities, we are certainly not alone in struggling with food!

But we get to know portion sizes for ourselves, times of day we need more food, less food... what foods make us feel better, which foods are unsatisfying, etc.
That is a learning process that requires being present in real time which is a struggle for me.


Perhaps part of the drastic serving size difference is because the weight watchers program is designed to help a person lose weight? Perhaps their portion sizes are smaller therefore. I am not sure how it works.
No it is not that they are really small portions, no foods are off limits, and if you eat too much you just track then get back on track the next day. I will comment on this again after the next couple of paragraphs.

One thing that fuels the obesity crisis, opioid crisis and so forth in my opinion is the lack of emotional connnectedness, lack of solid attachment as a child, the inability to emotionally regulate, the living in constant fear of being shamed, humiliated, physically abused in a multitude of ways, castigated, and bashed, kicked hit, smacked in the face, and all the forms of sexual abuse from the feeling up to the invasive touching through to anal rape - this meant I couldn't emotionally regulate as a child and a teenager. So obesity and drug addiction (see Portugal on drug addiction they are treating as an attachment disorder) have to do with not feeling social connectedness, attachment and having some meaning and purpose in your life.

I think that this is a time of immense fear politically, and globally, and I feel devastated that a generation of Australians ability to understand evidence based science in order to understand that climate change is a fact, and not a theory. Our politicians, despite having the literacy skills to understand the scientific research, have preyed on people's fears and ignorance. This is not ethical or appropriate in my mind.

It is interesting in America young Republicans who are educated recently understand that climate change is a serious concern. The only people who don't 'believe" or who aren't science literate enough to understand the research are the older Republicans who were educated 30, 40, 50 years ago. So even in the Republican party in America there are very different understandings of what science is and how it works.

So all this fear politically, socially and globally and those who have massive stress (like PTSD or Complex Trauma, or economic insecurity) in their own lives means they look for some way to manage feeling hopeless and scared. So people overeat to soothe their fear, so the politics of division, attack and trashing - well we all pay a high price for politician's self indulgence, and not being leaders of dignity and respect of others, no matter what persuasion they are - we have to learn to work together. They are not behaving, across the board, Turnbull and Shorten are just pits of negativity paying out on each other like students in a High School Playground. Our leaders are not an inspiration for us to be better than we are, to encourage us to fearlessly and courageously step forward, to embrace the uncertain, and to question our own inherent biases and prejudices, we all have them in one way or another. This means uncertainly for our young people who don't feel confident of their futures, and the future of the planet.

So these are ways of looking at disordered eating, overeating, the obesity crisis, and other addictions like drugs, shopping, alcohol, Internet etc, but food can also be an addiction as well, a way to ward off big feelings, and to manage living in deep deprivation and in ongoing entrenched day by day abuses. Disordered eating kept me alive living in hell for 15 years, and then being stalked by my Father, and manipulated and trashed by my Mother. I had black periods where it all doesn't feel worth it - that it would have been better to stay home and let my Father kill us all, so the pain ended.

I didn't really believe it but my psychiatrist said to me along time ago that
obesity was habituated overeating. But I am seeing recently that this is true. I have emotional eating issues, of that there is no doubt. But I also have a skewed understanding of what a reasonable portion size is. So one of the things Weight Watchers gets you to do is to look at portion sizes, and it does help a lot.

So no Weight Watchers is about eating a reasonable amount, and you have to have all the food groups each day to the best of your ability. People have lost 60, 40, 25, 20 kilos, some people come to lose 10 kilos, once you have made your weight goal, which is not based on disordered eating or eating disorders skewed visions of your body, then you become a life member, and the goal then is maintenance, and managing those weeks where you want to splurge a bit, by eating a little less on another couple of days. For me I was at the 20-25 kilos above a reasonable and sensible weight for my height and gender, but that is not the main focus of me as if I get locked up in weight loss I will crash and burn. I have tried to have a different focus - that is of awareness.

So no it is not that Weight Watchers are into really small portions, just for weight loss, well that is not the way that I am choosing to see it. There are no foods are off limits, and if you eat too much you just track then get back on track the next day. There is an emphasis on not feeling deprived or that you are going without. My psychiatrist said to me once that one of her clients got Jenny Craig meals, and the biggest thing for him about that was the shock at seeing what a reasonable, nutritionally balanced serving size is, he was eating a lot more at one meal for more than several days of more mindful and appropriate sized portions.

So for instance, instead of eating a sandwich, I would eat a whole loaf of sandwiches and so on and so forth. Even two sandwiches would be okay, but I was eating a lot more than that. Weight Watchers is just helping me to become a lot more aware of meal sizes, and really given how much I have eaten I have done well not to be a lot more obese than I am, and that would be down to all the exercise that I do each week.

I don't have the two or three squares of chocolate per day or whatever the reasonable amount is, I would eat a block or blocks of chocolate.

I am glad your partner is supportive. That is so good. :)
How lucky is that? How fortunate is that? I am so grateful. When my sister undermined me by bringing chocolate into the house it was so painful for me.
 
Last edited:
And it is really gutsy to challenge that embedded deprivation issue @NinjaWolf, you attention to detail is much appreciated.

So I let myself have four banana pancakes for lunch to show my commitment to the part that has suffered such immense deprivation.

Your comments and questions have led me to consider all this to a much deeper level.
 
I've been thinking about the facing of this stuff today. I think there will come a time when we can come on here and turn towards each other and say, “yes this was hard, but we have done it’. It won’t feel like a jinx to say and wont’ fear going backwards. The time will feel right to say it. I started to really believe this today. Thank you for letting me work alongside you. It nudges a bit of the shame away, knowing I am not alone and that this stuff really is difficult and gutsy to work through.

You’ve given me a lot to think about regarding food issues and the political climate. I hadn’t thought about it that way.

Hugs. These feelings to be felt are something else.
 
These feelings to be felt are something else.
They surely are!

Thank you for letting me work alongside you. It nudges a bit of the shame away, knowing I am not alone and that this stuff really is difficult and gutsy to work through.
It is the second part of the Self Compassion Break, that is of realising your common humanity with so many other people's experiences! It really helps me to know that you understand and struggle with similar issues. It helps to be accountable, but also gets me to consider deeply the part of the journey that I am on now.
 
Last edited:
So I didn't do too badly or so well last night. I got in to rape fear and I got stuck in that last night.

And I had bircher museli for breakfast, a double serving, and then later on after I had been out I had another breakfast, which consisted of a sausage and a large salad for breakfast. I did this to have protein in the morning, and to have lots of fibre to start off my day.

It is better to eat earlier in the day than later in the day. I need to have adequate fuel in my body.

I overate with the large salad of my second breakfast - I thought I need to stop but then the conversation took my focus off eating, and I ate automatically and not mindfully. Not a major disaster but something to be aware of for future situations.

I am growing more in my awareness of my eating patterns and I am needing to create a bedtime routine, and stick to that. I have to manage this with a bit more finesse.

I am changing in fundamental ways across the board. I am slowly gaining traction in most of the arenas of my life.

So not the worst and not the best. Just working it through.
 
Last edited:
So today I have had two appointments that brought up immense feelings of vulnerability. I saw my psychiatrist and my Alexander Technique teacher and I felt immensely vulnerable at the end of each appointment, and intensely so between the two appointments. I really dissociated and went into maladaptive daydreaming big time. It was not good. Afterwards I said to myself I could have the wanted for comfort food, and I went to three cafes and they didn't have it so I came home to go out for lunch. I ate reasonably and when I had pumpkin soup and ate as much as I felt I needed but didn't overeat. So that was good. It is a big day. A big decision made.
 
I am the kind of woman who confuses: anxiety with hunger,confusion with hunger, nervousness with hunger, stress with hunger, boredom with hunger, hunger with hunger! I also confuse self love as feeding myself, self care as feeding myself, self compassion as feeding myself and rewards as feeding myself!

It really helps you to learn about portion sizes, so you are so well informed as time goes on. This means you don't inadvertently sabotage yourself. I still get a shock at how high the points of some food are, and at what a reasonable size portion is, it is so important to learn what a normal size portion is! I was eating 4-5-6 portions at a meal. I would never be losing weight like I am now if I hadn't tracked. I also would be eating way too big portion sizes and I wouldn't have really started to look at what I need to do on other levels to manage my disordered eating. I wouldn't be making so much progress if I was not roughly tracking myself.
 
Last edited:
I am gaining improvements in every arena of my life! My eating is improving so much. I am managing so well really I am. Overall significant improvements, whilst doing a medication tapering, (under medical supervision).

Frazey Ford - Done [Official Music Video]

I am so lucky and fortunate to gain this level of recovery. It has been a really tough slough, but I did get a couple of breaks along the way. Or there would have been no choices that I have now. I am so grateful. I am finally getting a safe enough home.
 
So I went out for lunch which is tricky, but I did okay. It is still a shock to me how small a regular portion is, I can see how habituated over eating has created an obesity epidemic. I also know that food is such a basic comfort thing for so many people, in these times of great fear. I feel for people.

So I chose a medium size for my lunch. The three of us shared a dessert, and so that was good. So it was hard as I can feel the changes, and I am more present in my body and in my life. I feel a bit insecure and scared at times, and I am not yet sure how to manage this. I am trying not to block people with over talking!

It is still a shock to me how small a regular portion is, at breakfast this is causing quite the internal temper tantrum! Parts of me are not happy about it at all!
 
Last edited:
This is a really tough day for me today. But I am doing it.

It is bone crunchingly difficult not to comfort eat at the moment. Really tough, totally difficult, but I am doing. I am being here.

I had a couple of handfulls of cheese last night - so instead of binge eating I did a little comfort eating.
 
Last edited:
Overall improvements, but it is still a struggle, the going to bed anxiety/fear/panic is really difficult. The overwhelm of feelings is really tough to do it, but mostly I stayed with it yesterday. Slipped a bit before bedtime, but made a solid choice, so I am pleased with that.
 
So dealing with a trigger, but not binge eating. I am also going to do a difficult thing as well! I am being brave!

It is such a shock and a challenge for me to sit with a normal sized portion! I find it hard.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$910.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  50.6%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom