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Food thread! how has trauma played into food behaviors?

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I have been through my life obese and anorexic, now just a few pounds overweight. It’s been like an up down, down up all my life and it always depends on how I am doing mentally. Super depressed, I’m anorexic. Stressed to the max, I’m fat and super overweight. Right now, I’m ok and just love food.....

But, definitely tied to mood....
 
I would say from having to be resourceful as a kid, and much later during DV, sexual assaults not being sure what I'd come home to/not able to access food, or 'if' I could come home, I have the terrible compulsion of wanting to pick up and save or eat food I find on the ground etc. And probably from some times doing without.

Now, I care nothing about food, forget to eat or eat too much, or don't feel like eating at all.

If I lived alone Idk if I'd eat at all.
 
Ha! My family line from years ago must have been stuck in a dessert dying of starvation because my old body is built for famine! Nutrients stick to my bones like steel balls to a magnet!!! :joyful: But, since starting therapy, I have had days of binging on food...junk food. It is very weird, the energy that is behind this behavior. No pun intended, but it is all consuming!!! I finally worked through the embarrassment and mentioned this to the psych doc and he said it was a reaction to being pushed a little to hard in therapy. Things are better now. But, as for a continuing diet, I am not on a plant-based diet for health reasons and it is absolutely amazing how clear it makes my head! I feel sooooo much better when I am eating this way.
 
I've found my most healthful and actually helpful ways to navigate food, finally(knock on wood). But it hasn't been nearly as comforting as I imagined it would have been, especially in regards to interacting with others as now I'm more often viewed as simply being problematic rather than health-conscious in many arenas, especially social ones. It also takes the "fast" and "convenient" aspect out of choosing what to eat every day, and I miss that the most.

I was raised on mostly on fast/frozen/canned "convenience" foods since both parents worked more than one job. I remember being rewarded with Little Debbie cakes, orange sherbet Flintstones push-ups, popsicles, ice cream, candy bars, or fast food choices instead of hugs, love, and verbal validation of any kind. On weekends, a big huge spread of typical southern food would be made from scratch...like fried chicken, mashed potatoes, mac and cheese, green beans, peas with thickening, homemade bread, sweet tea, etc.

On hellidays, mom stayed in the kitchen for days making every kind of cake/pie/etc. you could imagine....mostly for other people. Everything cooked was always cooked in high quantity to have leftovers or to serve/share with others. We were expected to clean our plates, whether we liked it or not, and were made to clean up the messes afterward. We were also constantly taught to stay stocked up on canned and dried goods "just in case".....but never taught the significance of water and hydration, as we were given kool-aid, sodas, sweet tea, and jungle juice.

When I left home to escape the abusive energies I experienced there, it became much more challenging as I learned to get my needs met in some really unhealthy ways as I couch surfed my way through life. I would gorge and binge every chance I got since I knew I might not have another chance for days. As I encountered even more abuse via domestic violence/rape/etc., became homeless for a while not knowing if/when I'd eat again, I became much more vigilant in trying to meet my food needs, resorting to things I hope I never have to do again.

Once I entered into a more functional/healthy environment in my early 30s, finally living in my own apartment alone, having a full-time salaried position I had established and maintained for many years, I continued to eat the same way I had been taught....fast, cheap, full of meat, and mostly artificial. I worked full-time with much overtime involved, became a f/t step-mom to two kids, was trying to help do for several other family members, so fast food was my go-to source of supposed nourishment on the run.

Fast forward to my mid 40s, I experienced major medical issues that had been steadily building up through the years and had been labeled and treated as being many other things by medical professionals, yet I was rapidly getting worse instead of better, thanks to the severe side effects of their suggested methods.....so I felt my only choice left was to drastically change my consumption habits to see if that could help. It was either that or let them cut me open to remove organs, and I didn't want to start that cycle for myself that I'd seen so many others have poor luck with.

A vegan friend of mine, who used to really get on my nerves when she'd even slightly suggest healthier options that didn't include my favorite meats/cheeses/ice cream/egg dishes/etc., was the first person I called to help healthily guide me through the changes after my ER visit. I did it overnight, as I was trying to avoid having to go under the knife, but in hindsight, I wish I had eased into it more gradually....but nonetheless...it ended up being the answer to a shitload of my problems....pun intended. Gluten had been my initial gateway discovery of how powerful the whole gut/brain connection is prior to the emergency situation where I eliminated the other stuff. Next, I eliminated meat, dairy, eggs, caffeine, alcohol, and as much artificially created stuff as humanly possible. Other than some long-term painful damage that may not ever be reversed, I feel better at age 50 than I ever recall feeling the last few decades.

While I had all of that time of being mostly bed ridden and miserable, I researched where my food and all the other things I choose to consume, be it internally or externally, actually comes from and the energies that go into getting it to me and now I can never un-see or un-know what i discovered. To me, the words humane and slaughter don't even belong in the same sentence. I learned the product isn't the only thing we absorb/digest, but also the energies that go into getting it to the consumers. The fear of death is still very real to a living/feeling being, even if it appears to be done much more kindly. They can't speak to tell us about it, but I strongly feel they can feel those energies, too.

I had already switched to only local "humanely" raised/killed meats, only local free range "happy chickens" and their eggs, only wild-caught seafood, only local "humane" dairy, etc., which automatically meant I was consuming less of them as those varieties cost more, but still suffered from many physical ills and remained morbidly obese, which that alone only served to greatly complicate and often multiply all the other issues. Learning about the forced insemination, the babies being deprived of their mother's milk and affection, male babies being killed for veal, etc. in the dairy industry made me even more pissed, especially being a survivor of being forcibly impregnated myself via rape and having been denied a nurturing connection with my own mom and with the unborn children I never got to carry full term. Those realizations run really deep for me. I now have a whole new respect for the animals forced to "provide" for us, the supposedly higher intelligent species. I have a hard enough time digesting my own trauma, much less trying to digest the energetic experiences of all the other living beings who have no choice or say in the matter.

Now that I've lived the difference for a while, experienced the extremes and many in-betweens, continually experiencing the major and sustained health improvements as a result, and no longer have to depend on the things that were making me so much worse instead of better, there's no turning back. I hope to live to see the day when more accurate overall nutritional guidance is offered in schools/hospitals/all care facilities and cleaner food options planted everywhere and made more readily available/freely accessible to everyone, along with ongoing educational guidance on how to grow/forage/prepare/store/create/recognize nutritional abundance in any given situation.

But as long as many of those industries continue to heavily fund those same places, I'm afraid the information and products received won't change. The "father of medicine" himself, Hippocrates, was definitely onto something when he said, "Let food be thy medicine." Besides my breath, healthy hydration, and purposeful daily movement, it's definitely become my favorite therapeutic means of overall relief as it relates to various forms of suffering that I'd been told I just needed to get used to and be prepared to treat with meds the rest of my life. Although I seem to have figured out what works best for my body and my particular biological needs, it's opened my eyes to just how incredibly toxic most of our surroundings are designed to be. Trying to find our healthiest existence in such unhealthy surroundings is a real crap shoot no matter which direction we go. Many systems are set up to foster more dependence rather than self-empowering individuals, it seems, and that's a damn shame.
 
Food is something I HAVE to do in order to stay alive.. If I could just pop a pill or two each day that gave me all my body needed,and my brain would perceive that as a meal in my stomach, I would be very happy... and I would NEVER have to do dishes again... and would use the same glass for all my liquids... just wash it in between needs...

Now, I care nothing about food, forget to eat or eat too much, or don't feel like eating at all.

Having gotten that way in the past, I understand that. Trying to enjoy food after trauma and while depressed can be a nightmare.

In Kroger grocery stores, there's a shelf (usually by the bathrooms?) where they sell Boost and other brands of drinks that aren't quite protein drinks, which are packed with vitamins. You do need some fat in your diet to digest all that properly, but I've used those drinks when I just couldn't get myself to eat. They're helpful for that, like dinner in a bottle :D I think they're meant to help underweight people gain weight, but you know.

But, definitely tied to mood....

Totally agree...

But, since starting therapy, I have had days of binging on food...junk food. It is very weird, the energy that is behind this behavior.

After my last concussion, before I was officially diagnosed as having a TBI (which somehow took a while?) I went crazy on junk foods and sweets too. Which was very weird, because I'm not even the kind of person who likes sweets, and especially not chocolate. But I had platefuls of just pies, cakes, ice cream... it was ridiculous. A doctor finally told me that it was bscause I was trying to manage college (a nearly impossible task) with PTSD and a brain injury. The brain needs glucose and other forms of energy have to be converted, so my brain was apparently calling for sugar only so I could function in regular life! Cool, and weird. The sweets thing has gone away since then, thankfully, because in the long run that was definitely not a real solution. :P

To me, the words humane and slaughter don't even belong in the same sentence. I learned the product isn't the only thing we a

Learning about the forced insemination, the babies being deprived of their mother's milk and affection, male babies being killed for veal, etc. in the dairy industry made me even more pissed, especially being a survivor of being forcibly impregnated myself via rape and having been denied a nurturing connection with my own mom and with the unborn children I never got to carry full term. Those realizations run really deep for me. I now have a whole new respect for the animals forced to "provide" for us, the supposedly higher intelligent species.

I feel that... I was kept against my will for acts I didn't want to do. Weirdly I feel I know what it's like to be treated poorly in those ways. It's disgusting and ruins an appetite to even remember briefly.

My mom buys my foods currently, and buys animal products that definitely don't come from happy animals. It makes it even harder to eat. I've introduced meals that are meatless, feeling that just one day a week having less demand for meat will help more individuals (there's research on that). I've tried to get my mom to at least get happy chicken eggs. She keeps citing how little money she has :( I might pressure her into it. It bothers me so much, keeps me up at night. I have been friends with chickens (if you can call it that) and can't get over the abuse they go through.

To quote a great old friend and one of my all time favorite shows, "Food, the final frontier."
I love it!



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Thanks for taking the time to share!

Seeing all of your answers, I realized that water is a pretty important thing that I forgot to mention. I'll just say something briefly -- nowadays I'm rather obsessed with getting enough water. Neglect in childhood made it difficult to even want water, as it was almost never offered to me, and I was used to being really dehydrated. When I was neglected in a hospital setting as a teenager, I ended up becoming so dehydrated that I couldn't call for help, nor stand up. I had to have a saline bag attached to me. It sucked. Then I obsessively tried to drink the right amount of water everyday. Good times :P
 
I never thought of any connection to water @littleoc . Yes I'm the same with sugar and fat.

If you drink Boost or Ensure with sugar in it use a straw or your teeth will fall out quickly.

I actually think I made 'progress'- found 1/2 a sandwich out here wrapped in cellophane, I put it on a bus shelter seat if someone desperate needs it they'll find it. God knows it's frozen.

Yep, weird, the lessons that stick with you and are not even noticed.
 
I remember being hungry quite a lot when I was young due to neglect. And I realise I keep a good deal more food in the house than some people do. I've noticed sometimes when I'm away from home I'll feel a real need to stock up on food. It's like I'm frightened of not having access to food.

I remember the first time I felt a compulsion to comfort eat, it was the same time as the incest started. I gained weight very rapidly indeed then having been a normal weight. I think there was several l things - trying to comfort myself, trying to bury my feelings / self medication, and an intense hatred of my developing body, I more or less tried to stamp out having a figure by getting extremely fat. Then when the abuse stopped I went the other way to extreme dieting.

As an adult I've yoyoed lots, gaining and losing large amounts. Oftentimes when I've lost weight, and gotten male attention, it's frightened the life out of me and I've reacted by binging and gaining weight extremely quickly. Actually it got so just losing weight would trigger a fear based binging and rapid weight gain.

I'd like to sort out my food issues and have a healthy relationship to food.
 
The biggest problem is inadvertence. If you allow things to happen to you then you end up doing what everyone else wants including eating. For me this means planned eating. I'm only thinking about it still because lots of times when I try to 'execute' I make myself a pain in the ass. It's developing though. Plus it means cooking of course. I am so sick of preparing my own food. Lots of times the things I eat are substitutes for what I would like to eat if I didn't have to make it. Luckily for me also food makes me sick so I've (almost) always been thin. Meaning I have food allergies and intolerances. We ate out a few times over the weekend and that means I'm still waiting for my stomach to get back to normal. I have a couple nice fat pictures of myself lol. 40 lbs heavier than I am now. I really hated that. I've been off coffee since Christmas. Just about the longest time I've been off it in my adult life. It did not make as much difference with heartburn as I would have liked. The whole inadvertence thing is really bothering me because after I read it I realized I lived my whole life like that. Now I'm thinking/trying to do things differently. Mostly thinking still but a little progress in some areas. I just realized this morning my coffee substitute (chocolate almond milk) which I really thought was going to work is bothering my kidneys I think. So discouraging that a food that is high protein and no anything (dairy, gluten, soy) is still going to be a problem. We will c. I have to have something hot in the morning still (at least for now) we will see. : )
 
@littleoc, you should get chickens! They have made me so happy, give me a reason to get up and get moving every morning, and the eggs are wonderful. Beware of chicken math though. You start out with three, then you find reasons to get more, and more and now I have 16 laying hens, 4 chicks, and 15 fertilized eggs coming in the mail to put in my incubator. I won't keep them all, but hopefully they will hatch and start my new breeding flock of Brahmas. Not for food, for eggs. When my hens stop laying I will continue to keep them. They are awesome pets.
 
The biggest problem is inadvertence. If you allow things to happen to you then you end up doing what e...
That stinks! I wonder what's bothering your kidneys in such an innocent drink :(

I've always wondered about allergies and intolerances and sensitivities after trauma... I swear I had less before I was diagnosed with PTSD -- but I have no data supporting that as being a thing, so I think it might just be a mental distortion... lol

What do you mean by inadvertence, by the way?

@littleoc, you should get chickens! They have made me so happy, give me a reason...

YES, I've cared for chickens before and they made me so, so happy. And that's even one of the breeds I like so much! My mom won't allow me to get chickens (I live with her) because she doesn't want to have to care for them if my living situation gets weird (trying to find a job, going to grad school...). But I'll find a way :)

Maybe she'd budge a little if I told her I was planning to move just so I can have chickens... lol. She can see I'm incredibly jealous of our three neighbors who have chickens!
 
By inadvertence I mean happenstance. Eating just because. Wondering what you'll have for dinner then someone comes home with pizza. Then you go shopping the next day and stop somewhere and eat and so on. For me I can't allow that to happen very often because I end up sick. I always end up taking a day or so where I eat nothing but a my pure as the driven snow corn chips and salsa, maybe salad and fruit and veggies and very little of that. My stomach settles in a day or so. When I'm 'sick' like that my mood is severely effected. (sick means bloating, gas, heartburn and better keep a bathroom handy.) A couple days of that exhausts me and I felt like that for years and years. Especially when I was eating cereal and milk still. Eggs also really kill me.
 
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