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Colorful and hopefully optimistic but maybe hateful occasionally

My therapist was very excited that I went to synagogue. ? She said she had no idea that I was a Jew, lol. I have learned not to mention that much, I guess a little too well. But anyway, she said that if I want to celebrate Christmas Eve with her and her family, she goes to a Christian church where they just celebrate the holiday casually — not a big lecture as much as a tiny play and some snacks. And another chance to socialize with the community in a positive way that won’t involve me being afraid of what people know about my dad

Speaking of my dad, I went to the flea market today and saw a BUNCH of his stuff. At first I did a double take and just assumed that it was a coincidence. I still kind of think it was. But then I saw his ugly beaded car seat cover and that was a bit more coincidental.... so I walked to the next booth, lol.

@RuffledFeathers was right, though! I saw so much cheap furniture there! I will look around at a couple of more places too, for bed frames and dining tables and whatever. Should be exciting!!!
 
Also I’m thinking my mom is very much in denial. While being completely aware of what’s up.

I talked about what I’d need to rent a house but also told her I found an apartment complex that’s surrounded by trees and therefore kind of has a yard :D and she responded (jokingly) that everyone is moving out because they hate her. I thought about joking that no, I hate the house, but instead I said mildly, “I just want to live somewhere with enough room to have a big enough bed for my back.”

The lesson taught the other day was that sometimes you have to make hard decisions that seem impossible, but you have to listen to the little voice in your heart to know which path is right. My therapist thinks my little heart voice is trying to help everyone, though, because there are no right paths. For example, my mom stopped taking care of Slinky’s needs and is making Slinky defensive. But, Slinky’s favorite human on Earth is my mom. She’s made that clear over and over. But she could get seriously injured or even neglected in this house. And my mom will get lonely without her. No right path. If I take Slinky, they’ll both be upset. If I don’t take Slinky, I will be worried about her getting hurt in this house all the time.
 
I had a really weird thing happen to me a few years back, re the whole someone "turning on you" thing.

I had a best friend, who I met at 12 in high-school and we became best friends at 13/14 and were incredibly close throughout all the following years. We were literally sisters.

She came from a home as abusive as mine, so we clung to each other to survive.

A huge difference in our journeys was that at 21, I started doing trauma therapy.

And she just "kept going" as best she could, even though she was an utter, utter mess below the "I'm fiiiine" surface.

She was literally too scared of therapy. She's keep "trying it" but would always back out a couple of sessions into it, saying it was "too hard".

We remained best friends throughout my years of trauma therapy and she'd be like "Ugh I should be doing therapy too" but never doing it.

Instead, she fell in with a group of really bizarre people. I'll spare you the details here, but it was a bunch of people turning their trauma and mental illness into a way of life and convincing themselves that "everyone else was to blame". It was an incredibly negative, aggressive, destructive scene and she got deeper and deeper into it. It was actually pretty heart-breaking to watch and our friendship kinda turned into just staying in touch, trying to salvage the bits that weren't sucked into that vortex of the people she was spending her life with.

All throughout these years, she was spiralling worse and worse... Her trauma/ PTSD/ mental illness stuff just kept getting worse and more symptomatic each year, and her suicidalness was getting worse, and she'd "try" therapy at various times, but always with the result it was "too hard".

Thing just kept getting worse - every time I thought they couldn't get much worse, yeahhhh, they did...

I guess it was kinda like watching your child turn to drugs and just end up in every bad and toxic and destructive dynamic out there?

Anyway... she kept hitting new types of rock-bottom, eventually living overseas in really bad conditions, still associating with these horribly destructive people, and getting so badly suicidal that eventually I was like "come and stay with me - this is going to kill you".

So she did come and stay with me. And she started spewing out all the negativity and destructiveness and self-hate and blaming-others all over my life.

She did have some moments of clarity, where she actually said that she had "finally seen the error in her ways of associating with those destructive people" but she also knew that "the damage had been done" and that she'd basically left it more or less "too late" to turn things around now.

It was a pretty shocking mess and a super bizarre situation.

Like me, it was her biological mother that was her perp and who was cruelly abusive and totally insane, but unlike me there were zero "stable and kind" people in her life as a kid. So she had nothing to "cling to".

Hence, she never, ever felt able to stand up to her perp and say "no".

She ended up in total fawn responses each and every time, and hanging out with that hateful/ spiteful/ toxic group of people was her version of "rebelling" and "saying no" and "getting out of the fawn response".

So anyway, she was staying with me, she was hugely suicidal, spiralling badly, totally losing it, and then she started blaming *me* for what went wrong in her life :facepalm:

We had a few fights about it and at some point she had a moment of clarity and actually apologised and said "I know this is all stuff I'm supposed to be saying *to my perp* but I don't have the courage and you're a safe person to yell it all at instead" :facepalm:

I can't even remember all the insane stuff she vomit-screamed, but I think the main gist was that she's spent her whole life in a fawn-response and that if I'd somehow been a better best friend, then I'd have been able to help her stop that happening?

Dunno... the logic was very confusing.

She did end up vomit-screaming at me that our whole friendship (over 25 years at this point!) had been a fraud and a sham, because she'd been in 100% fawn mode throughout the whole thing and hence always said "whatever I wanted to hear" so she could get my approval. And somehow - the logic went - it was my fault for not having seen through this.

(I spent countless - absolutely countless - hours in those 25 years, trying to help her out of her fawn response, encouraging her to follow her instincts and wishes, encouraging her to trust and like herself, etc etc etc. So this accusation it had been "my fault" was just bizarre to the max. All those years, I was actually the *only* person in her life looking out for her, looking after her, encouraging her to follow her dreams, encouraging her to do therapy :facepalm: )

Anyway... long story, just to say that I think sometimes it doesn't matter "what we do"... Sometimes we invest everything we can, we do everything right, and when someone's in a bad place, they take all their pain and vomit it at the person who's standing closest, cos who else have they got to vomit it at?

I'd have found a way to forgive her all this obviously trauma-related dysregulation and emotional mess, but she actually *actively* started looking for ways to f*ck up my life, in day to day stuff. She'd create all kinds of drama on purpose (in addition to the drama she was creating accidentally) to do things like make me late for work.

And I was dealing with my own stuff and struggling with that too, and I was just like "You can emotional vomit at me all you want - but if you start actively f*cking up my life, so that I'll get fired from my job, etc - you are crossing every line in my book!"

And I ended up throwing her out. Gave her a week to pack her stuff and work out where she was going. (She came to stay with me in Europe, and was many, many miles from "home".)

I still can't quite believe I kicked out my previously best-friend from childhood while she was a dysregulated, suicidal mess... but her behaviour was so incredibly toxic that there was no other way and there would also have been no point in trying anything else, either.

She actually managed to manipulate one of the people from the toxic group she was hanging out with to *fly to Europe* to come and get her and her stuff :facepalm: So I assume she was "alright" and didn't land in the gutter due to my kicking her out.

But I've never heard from here since and have no idea whether she's alive or dead now. (I'm absolutely not interested in contacting mutual friends from school days to find out. It is what it is.)

Anyway, another long rant (sorry) as an example of how crazy destructive patterns can be and how people can play "blame games" as a way of making themselves feel better, that have 0% to do with reality.

(Sorry for the long blather, I'm reeeally bad at expressing stuff today!!! :bag: )
Just wanted to say that this was helpful for me too.

I had a best friend who also came out of trauma, but she loved that my trauma was worse than hers and bragged about it to people.

I could tell that your friendship sort of started out in a better place. I think mine did not. I was too busy trying to stay alive and Brandi seemed like good support because she loved me and would demand to know why I was sad (even when I didn’t want to share), and would demand to hear what I said in therapy. But those were controlling moves, not really love.

I am trying to think of why I loved her at all. She wanted me to be her mother so I cared for her, but I have no idea why I let it get that far.

That’s probably why it scared me so much when she and her toy were talking about how to kill her biological mom in a way they’d have gotten away with if I weren’t a witness. Run on sentence.

I’m still confused about how to think of it. Brandi wouldn’t get help either. She had less support growing up than I did, but only because I had at least one sibling I was getting along with (despite Brandi trying to separate us) and because teachers liked me and wanted to help.

Brandi started acting meanest when I got placed in a high-level class while she remained basically in a special ed environment.

I think I just suddenly saw why I’m always trying to not be too intelligent around people. I’m afraid they’ll think less of themselves. My dad and Brandi and my mom and several others (including a teacher) did that. My little bro brags about me though. I hold onto that a lot when people start trying to call me stupid. They might be calling me stupid out of jealousy. But my gut says that’s too prideful of a thing to say. I’m not the most intelligent person on Earth or anything.

But anyway @Sophy, thanks for posting that, it really helped to see it.
 
Had a weird dream.

I was in a movie theater or something like that. I was there by myself (I do that in reality a lot) and Nestle was being chill. Then I felt some people sit down behind me. I looked over and it was Brandi.

Brandi looked happy to see me. But not in a good way. Smug. “Can’t stay away, can you? You keep thinking about me.”

I turned around and ignored her. Her company kicked my seat. It spooked me, so I stood up and looked back at them. Brandi looked happy.

I couldn’t tell if I was faking being spooked to make her care that she was being mean, or if I was actually spooked. (That’s how all my flashbacks feels. Brandi convinced me in real life that I was only an actor meant to entertain her. She told me I was manipulating her constantly.)

So I got up and went to another seat. I could feel her watching. She called that she won and was better off without me. Then I realized, after I sat down, that she was unsure about how to show that she wanted to talk to me. She was trying to force me to apologize.

That dream is based off a real event, though the details were wrong. I think that’s why it seemed so weird to dream it.

I wouldn’t, in reality, miss her at this point. There’s not really anything to miss. The only thing she was good for was to allow me to act out people she wanted me to be, because she hated me.

Really messed up that I put up with up. Does it sound like I’m blaming myself?
 

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