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I am completely heartbroken for you. All the mixed messages you're getting sounds so very familiar to me, though I had a much different outcome.

Just want to pop on to say I see you and your words. I am so so sorry. Having gone through something sort of similar in the past year I cannot even imagine if part of it included a new interest. I was devastated enough as it was....that piece would have made it too much.

You're such a strong person. We are all here cheering you on! Keep having those good cries for yourself and do all the other good things for yourself. Keeping you in my thoughts as you navigate the the next part of your story.
 
You're so welcome!

How are you doing now, since you mentioned a similar situation from last year?

I'm doing well. I had a very different outcome than you. You can read all the minute by minute details in my supporter diary. The short story is in April my boyfriend broke up with me out of nowhere. 2 weeks earlier we had had the most productive talk about his PTSD we had ever had and were in a really good place....at least from my point of view. He broke up with me. The following 1-2 weeks we had multiple conversations about it because I was trying to understand and help him realize that breaking up with me won't fix him and every conversation ended with him saying breaking up was the right thing for him.

He said he'd move out but he just never did. And our interactions never changed. And I had no idea what was going on and I would ask him and he wouldn't say anything. Just last month he was finally able to talk about it again and he didn't really have an explanation for what that was but reassured me that he wanted to be in our relationship.

In your story I identify with things being great and a break up coming out of nowhere and then the mixed signals. I was completely devastated thats why I can't imagine how much harder it would be if he had a new interest lined up in those moments. Especially with the texting etc that led up to that point. I'm just really feeling for you.
 
Thank you @OrangeJulius.

I'll have a look into your diary. I'm happy that that hard time in your life turned out positive and that your boyfriend was able to realize that breaking up with you won't heal him (but probably have quiet the opposite effect).

I also have a huge respect for you that you kept fighting for him and your relationship.
 
I’m sorry for your pain. She let go of someone who loved and tried to understand and support her. Please take care of yourself, put yourself first now. Go to the gym, reconnect with friends. Live your life!
 
Just read through some of the posts in here after I thought about this thread, and especially how much sharing it with you on here, and your heartfelt responses, helped me during this time.

It's been about 4.5 months now.

I took your advice and concentrated on myself. Taking care of myself. My family and my friends helped me A LOT during that time. I took up reading novels again. I started to go to the gym again, 3-4 times a week. Spent a bit money (not too much) on myself, buying some new clothes, a new laptop on which I can continue writing the novel I started some time ago and haven't written in a while (still didn't continue so far). I started to organize myself. I spent a lot of time on my own to avoid avoiding the pain, aswell as to have the time to think. Also spending time with my cats and giving them the love they deserve. Just 4 weeks ago I decided to take up something new: martial arts. The same week I went to combat sports center and started kickboxing. I was so nervous to try something new, something I had absolutely no experience in, but it felt sooo great, been there two more times so far (doing the fundamentals course that's every wednesday, before entering the real course). I also bought some supplies to train at home, using the more space I have now in my flat in good ways, turning one room that used to be a guest room, that my ex's wardrobe used to be in, into my writing and martial arts room. I also took up meditating. And overall reading lots and lots of things, on needs, on boundaries, on self-care aswell as starting my treatment for OCD, about to start Exposure and Response Prevention Treatment.

Not every day is great, but I try my best to see and enjoy the good moments.

Lately the days have been a bit harder, but not because of her or the breakup. Actually that pain that the breakup caused is fading slowly. It's still there and there are days I feel sad when I think about her and what happened. But the moments grow fewer and more far apart slowly. Which I am really grateful for. It still feels pretty surreal when I think about it, but that's something I think I have accepted some time ago: that I will never really understand the hows and whys of the whole situation.

What I got, though, was to read her story. Her side of it all. Something she didn't want me to know, to "not hurt you more than needed".

She told it my brother's girlfriend (both of them were really close with her during the relationship), and she showed me the message of my ex explaining why she did it (after I asked her to).

While reading I was torn between shaking my head and having to laugh. Not because it was funny, but because it felt so unreal. I think, she really believes her own story, though, and that, based on that story, she thinks she did the right thing.

She told my brother's girlfriend (mind you, that that's probably the story she told pretty much everyone that wanted to hear it...) that the reason for her decision was, that she realized, that her and me had more a brother-and-sister-like relationship. That she couldn't do that for the rest of her life, living a life without sex. That she always wondered if there's something wrong with her, if she's the reason, starting to doubt herself and couldn't grasp what's wrong. And then the scales fell from her eyes and she realized all this, and knew, she couldn't keep going on like this. Also writing, that she still said yes to my proposol, still moved in with me, despite all that. That she started to develop feelings for someone else and wanted to end it, before she does something she regrets. And that no matter what everyone thinks, she didn't cheat on me, since that's the worst someone could do.

While I sat there, reading her words, I had images flashing into my mind. Images of moments that contradict pretty much everything she said. Not, that she was lying in her message. The things she said were pretty much true. It was just not her story. One of the first thoughts I had after finishing reading her message was: I couldn't have written that, if I would've broken up with her for our lack of intimacy.

I read "still I said yes to his proposal" and saw, in my mind, both of us sitting in a restaurant during a vacation shortly before I proposed. When she asked me, after we talked about marriage in general, when I will propose to her, and me telling her that I don't know, sometime when she feels better emotionally so we both can enjoy it the same way. She told me, "but, it would be a great sign of love, doing it even in rather bad times". I couldn't fight that thought. Doing a proposal I knew I wanted to do one day during a tough time, showing how much we stand through together. So I proposed shortly after, after we decided to marry two (instead of the usual one year, here) years later, so we have enough time to save for the wedding.

I read about her troubles with our lack of intimacy and saw myself lying in bed, back to back, quiet tears running down my cheeks, after her rejecting another attempt of initiating intimacy. I'm not talking about sex here, mind you. But about caressing her back, or just cuddling before turning around to sleep.

I'm glad that all those things, our whole relationship and how we've been towards each other, were still so fresh in my mind when I read her side of the story. And that the looks on the face of the people closest to me, who I showed the message, were the pretty much the same. One of disbelief.

At first I wanted to defend myself. Tell everyone "how it really was". But I decided against it. Instead I told myself, that if someone wants to believe her story, despite knowing both of us, that that's someone I do not want to have in my life anymore.

I don't know what more to say now. Except... I am so so thankful for all of you, for all of your words of understanding, your encouragement and heartfelt messages. You helped me more than you can imagine :)
 
This must be so incredibly difficult @Dominik24. I can’t even imagine the pain and confusion you must be going through now.

Something you said up there made me think: I’m about 4 months out of my relationship with my sufferer. I’ve been thinking a lot about the “real him,” and who that even was/is. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that he was consciously playacting any part of our relationship, but I have come to realize that the level of closeness, commitment, and intimacy (vulnerability) we shared took a lot more effort, pain, and “bending” for him than I’d realized. Looking at his history of relationships, it was very far fetched of me to believe that suddenly I would be the “special” one to fundamentally change anything about how he works, what he has to offer in the long run, and how safe he feels with having someone so close in his life. I know he “wanted” to, but I don’t think he understood just how difficult a relationship like that would be for him.

What I’m trying to say is that I don’t think we are necessarily blind out of love—I think we all run the risk of going along with someone’s own self denial and lack of self honesty.

I think there’s a strong likelihood that she was who she claimed to be for as long as she was that. But when it comes to mental illness (especially something often overlapping with borderline, or whatnot,) there’s often a lack of a consistent sense of self to begin with, so how are we supposed to know who it is we’re really dealing with?

This might be too fresh for you to take any comfort in this line of thinking. That’s ok, it’s a process. But it’s been a major source of comfort and relief for me to know that I was only as duped as he was duping himself.
I left my sufferer a little over a month ago after two years with no intimacy outside the bedroom and hardly any in the bedroom (just sex)...he can’t do intimacy as that equals relationship..which he has no energy for. Like you, I spend a lot of time wondering, who the real him is...what was pure PTSD and what is him? The times he hurt me with inconsiderate remarks regarding him being so out of balance and impulse driven at times, that there was a risk, he would have sex with some random woman at a party. He said that three times over the last year...only when he felt pressured by my needs for intimacy....and although he has had plenty of opportunity to be with others, he has definitely not done so. I see his remarks as his way of forcing me to end us...because he can’t...because I am his drug but also his biggest source for feeling guilty of not being able to give me what I need...intimacy which in his works equals official relationship. So...what is PTSD and what is him....so many questions which will stay unanswered. Why is it important to get answers...for me it is a need to know, if I have spend to two years living a lie.
I am moving forward without him...not seeing him at all....trying to let go.
 
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I read your update but not any other replies so I appologize if any of this was already said.

Intamacy is very hard for me, if not impossible. I can have sex, sure. But I am disocciated the entire time and/or having flashbacks the whole time depending on what's going on. I hide this fact very well. I can only orgasm because I am having flashbacks or because I mentally put myself back in the past.

But, intimacy? Holding hands, hugging, cuddling, etc? I can't do that because I cannot be that vulnerable. The protector in me won't allow it. A wall is there.

I used to bail on guys when it got real. When my symptoms started to show. When shit got real in the relationship. I would bail on them anyway I could and would purposefully hurt them, badly, so they wouldn't come after me or even hurt for me. I loved most of them but that is why I hurt them. Yeah, they were hurt at the time but, in my mind, I was sparing them more hurt and heartache by running after me.

I would jump into another relationship as well as I didn't want to be alone at the time but it takes a good 6 months or more for shit to get real in a relationship so in a new one, my trauma is still hidden and I can have what felt like love without my symptoms or trauma showing.

Not sure if any of that is what happened here but I think she may have gotten scared. Your wedding was close and her trauma was already showing with the lack of intimacy and likely in many other ways. Not sure if other symotoms were showing their head but I can almost promise you that this was not out of nowhere for her. I bet it was building and building for her and this guy was an excuse and a relationship where she could rehide all of her bad stuff again but still feel cared for and loved even.

I am so sorry it all happened and likely in the worse way possible. I did read someone said stay single for a while. I agree. I'd work a lot on self care and figuring out boundries and what those mean and would be for you. Be ok alone. Lastly, figure out what makes YOU happy and what YOU want out of life.

But, again, so sorry this happened! :hug:
 
I read your update but not any other replies so I appologize if any of this was already said.

Intamacy is very hard for me, if not impossible. I can have sex, sure. But I am disocciated the entire time and/or having flashbacks the whole time depending on what's going on. I hide this fact very well. I can only orgasm because I am having flashbacks or because I mentally put myself back in the past.

But, intimacy? Holding hands, hugging, cuddling, etc? I can't do that because I cannot be that vulnerable. The protector in me won't allow it. A wall is there.

I used to bail on guys when it got real. When my symptoms started to show. When shit got real in the relationship. I would bail on them anyway I could and would purposefully hurt them, badly, so they wouldn't come after me or even hurt for me. I loved most of them but that is why I hurt them. Yeah, they were hurt at the time but, in my mind, I was sparing them more hurt and heartache by running after me.

I would jump into another relationship as well as I didn't want to be alone at the time but it takes a good 6 months or more for shit to get real in a relationship so in a new one, my trauma is still hidden and I can have what felt like love without my symptoms or trauma showing.

Not sure if any of that is what happened here but I think she may have gotten scared. Your wedding was close and her trauma was already showing with the lack of intimacy and likely in many other ways. Not sure if other symotoms were showing their head but I can almost promise you that this was not out of nowhere for her. I bet it was building and building for her and this guy was an excuse and a relationship where she could rehide all of her bad stuff again but still feel cared for and loved even.

I am so sorry it all happened and likely in the worse way possible. I did read someone said stay single for a while. I agree. I'd work a lot on self care and figuring out boundries and what those mean and would be for you. Be ok alone. Lastly, figure out what makes YOU happy and what YOU want out of life.

But, again, so sorry this happened! :hug:
I can’t imagine what that must be like for you?....it sounds like my ex...especially the intimacy part...which we supportes can’t do without...I did...for two years. My heart goes out to you
 
thank you @lostforgottensoul :)

I don't know if I mentioned it in a previous post, but her PTSD was untreated. I think she did not really reflect or think about why she feels the way she feels... right after the breakup I would've said that I'm 99% sure she didn't think about breaking up before she met that guy. Now I don't know to be honest, because I also had the same level of certainty when it came to her being able to do something like that. So, who knows? Maybe she grew uncomfortable witth the wedding coming sooner and sooner, realizing how serious it really is. I don't know.

One reason I thought of not that long ago, could be, that she stopped taking her pill. Maybe that changed something with her hormones and she started to get all kinds of emotions again, I don't know.

Boundaries is one thing I now know that I have to set for myself, aswell as taking care of myself and finding happiness within. Thank you for your kind words! And I hope you are doing well! :)
 
I can’t imagine what that must be like for you?....it sounds like my ex...especially the intimacy part...which we supportes can’t do without...I did...for two years. My heart goes out to you
Can I ask you a question regarding your intimacy issues? I am not getting back with my ex, but you remind me of him and in order for me to move on, I need to understand his intimacy problems.
 
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