PTSD from alien abductoin recently

[KA60]

Any history of head trauma concussions TBI neuroloogical surgery seizure activity? Have you had a physical exam blood work by a primary care provider?

 

[ms spock]

Yup, I can.
Sign of delusion/ psychosis/ similsr issue .
Pretty sure 100% of psychiatrists would agree.

Can you provide an evidence based source for this?

Can you please also provide a source of evidence based research that suggests or illustrates that the way you are engaging, by dismissing what has been shared, is the way anyone with substantial mental health training would engage with an unknown, new or existing client or patient?

Do you think a psychiatrist would diagnose anyone based on a couple of posts or emails? If so what are you basing this assumption on? TV?

Before any diagnosis a psychiatrist will do extensive deep listening, offering comfort whilst do extensive screening. Usually over several sessions. And they do this after undergoing an intensive decade of training and having been extensively supervised.

Invalidating someone is not a therapeutic tool that mental health professionals are taught to do as part of their training.

Once again I refer you to the training of Dr David Burns and his extensive training of psychiatrists, psychologists, LMFTs, pysch nurses, counsellors etc in empathy. He's done extensive work on the importance of empathy, understanding and compassion. Dr David Burns is a psychiatrist who is one of the three founding members of CBT.

 

[ms spock]

But, I’m going to say that if you go to any psychiatrist or therapist and claim it was aliens that abducted you their initial thought would be psychosis.

How do you know this?

They could also think Dissociative Identity Disorder.

There are many things that a psychiatrist could diagnose. Not having trained intensively for over a decade I can't list them all. But they won't be diagnosing due to a few posts or emails, that is for sure.

Many therapists (depending on training and country) have not had the decades worth of psychiatric/mental health training and experience and may not be professionally or legally be in the position to do any diagnosis at all (just like they can't proscribe mediation) .

And I guess that’s what we’re thinking too. I’m not saying you’re making anything up AT ALL. I believe you’re in genuine distress, and I’m sure there’s things that have caused you to get here.

When you are suggesting psychosis you are saying that.

The lack of compassion in these responses is disappointing.

The armchair diagnosis is very poor indeed. No one here has the qualifications to be diagnosing anything.

 

[ms spock]

I don't know where to begin. I was abducted recently and they had me do the most vile and gross things. I'm not sure who to talk to. Reply here if you want to hear about it, I need to talk about it.

I am most sad about your suffering. Sadly I don't have any skills to offer you.

I was made to do gross and vile things as a child. I empathise with you.

I do know what it is like to tell my truth and to be questioned, demeaned, put down, not believed and told that there's definitely something wrong with me. It really hurt.

I wish you the best and I hope that you are able to receive support, compassion and care that is meaningful and comforting for you. I hope that you find someone who can listen to you deeply.

 

[AlienHostage]

I am most sad about your suffering. Sadly I don't have any skills to offer you.

I was made to do gross and vile things as a child. I empathise with you.

I do know what it is like to tell my truth and to be questioned, demeaned, put down, not believed and told that there's definitely something wrong with me. It really hurt.

I wish you the best and I hope that you are able to receive support, compassion and care that is meaningful and comforting for you. I hope that you find someone who can listen to you deeply.

There's not much to tell about it except I was forced to breed male dogs in their ass

 

[Ecdysis]

I am not in a therapeutic role here - this is a peer to peer format. When anyone new on this forum turns up, we don't even know whether they're a troll or not, or someone seeking to abuse the nature of this forum.

When someone new turns up claiming to be abducted by aliens and having PTSD symptoms from that, the most realistic assessment is a possible psychosis.

I agree with @Calm in the chaos that it could instead be an abduction by humans where the events played out and someone's trauma defense is their brain "turning it into aliens".

I don't see the benefit of pretending that that's true tho.

And I'm still not convinced whether this new user is using the forum seriously, has PTSD symptoms at all, etc. It all sounds rather "off" to me. Just my gut instinct.

 

[Movingforward10]

There's not much to tell about it except I was forced to breed male dogs in their ass

I'm going to use some blunt terminology: it sounds like you were forced to rape dogs?
I use that word because you can't 'breed' male dogs in the ass. And I use that word because sometimes it can help to name what happened.

Being forced to do that is utterly horrific.

You say this was recently. How recently? (Hours, days, weeks, months?).

It is the alien aspect of it that is the issue. I:m left wondering if humans did that to you rather than aliens. As that seems far more logical. Yes, I don't believe in aliens. And yes I believe humans are very capable of doing those horrific things.

It seems to me that seeing a psychiatrist if you can is the way to go. Because it's entirely normal to have a response from being forced to rape dogs, it doesn't mean you have PTSD. There is also a timing issue. If it happened a few days ago, you wouldn't get a diagnosis (yet) from it because of the timeframe from when it happened. But it doesn't mean it hasn't impacted you or that you don't need help.

You, like everyone else on this site, deserve help. You don't need to go through this on your own.

 

[anthony]

well then I guess i made the whole thing up and my fear of dogs is fake because they had me breed male dogs!

Careful... I have a low tolerance for BS from new members, especially if you get pissed off and start attacking others. Play nice please.

 

[anthony]

When someone new turns up claiming to be abducted by aliens and having PTSD symptoms from that, the most realistic assessment is a possible psychosis.

Agree... but I also don't jump to thinking I know what exists, and what does not. I give people rope, whether they hang themselves, that is up to them.

We are not the only beings in the universe. I think there is enough evidence out nowadays to clearly authenticate this. As for experiences... again, I don't know. A psychiatrist shouldn't jump to thinking they know everything either, if they do, I wouldn't trust them as a psychiatrist.

 

[Calm in the chaos]

How do you know this?

psychiatrists are used to treating psychosis. They hear aliens and they’d go there.

The lack of compassion in these responses is disappointing.

??? Have you read what I wrote?

They could also think Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Maybe, but this happened recently.

The armchair diagnosis is very poor indeed. No one here has the qualifications to be diagnosing anything.

I agree that something is incredibly off about this. I never diagnosed them with anything, I just said what I was thinking to see if it would help.

 

[ms spock]

psychiatrists are used to treating psychosis. They hear aliens and they’d go there.

Do you have an evidence based source for this?

Or is this your assumption, guess, fantasy or opinion?

Do you think a psychiatrist would make an assessment based on five or six posts or emails?

I agree that something is incredibly off about this. I never diagnosed them with anything, I just said what I was thinking to see if it would help.

Fair enough.

 

[Calm in the chaos]

Do you think a psychiatrist would make an assessment based on five or six posts or emails?

my point was if you walk in to a psychiatrists office and say that it was aliens, then they’re skeptical. I’m not saying that would be their complete assessments, just that that would be something that they’re used to dealing with, and it would be something they’d consider.

Or is this your assumption, guess, fantasy or opinion?

From what I know of psychiatrists, they go there. They’re full of assumptions from the issue people walk in there with. Not sure if it’s different where you are. But here? They have so many clients that yes, they do make assumptions based on very little evidence. And that can be wrong. They have their opinions, and it’s not always right, but it happens.