Touch / Physical Holding

[Springer80]

YES! And the child state is where the trauma, the need and the healing are located. And this is why therapists who work with this are not confused about boundaries and adult sexuality.

EXACTAMUDO!!!! :) and I think you've hit the nail on the head as to why I couldn't mix being in that held state and reflecting on it in the same session or with the same person potentially. Its like two dimensions!​

 

[Pencil]

turned you into a child.

Mrs Martinez, please alert your pastor that I will pitch at his house to kiss his feet. I am so glad that you had this experience.

 

[Pencil]

why I couldn't mix being in that held state and reflecting on it in the same session or with the same person potentially. Its like two dimensions!​

In that case, according to the literature, your stuff is at a pre-verbal level. I know I also go into a very deep place where I am all sensation / feeling and no cognition

 

[Mrs. Martinez]

Pencil .... He is amazing, I spent many years not even willing to admit there is a God, and he never pushed and never gave up. I know I still have a lot to work through, but could only imagine where I would be without that man. I'm so thankful for him. Every abuse victim should be able to see him.

 

[Pencil]

Its like two dimensions!​

In fact, according to researchers such as Kathy Steele, it has to do with 2 personalities, or personality states, so you are correct that they are separate.

 

[Pencil]

, so you are correct that they are separate.

... as these are dissociated states. What they call 'secondary dissociation'. Tertiary dissociation leads to DID. Sorry, wanted to quote your statement about separate dimension, but quoted myself - and don't know how to discard a message :giggle:

 

[Springer80]

In fact, according to researchers such as Kathy Steele, it has to do with 2 personalities, or personality states, so you are correct that they are separate.

You wouldn't be referring to ANP's and EP's would you? As outlined in this article in my bookmark folder archive??... http://www.trauma-pages.com/a/steele-2001.php :)

I think we might end up having a reference show down you and I!!!!:nailbiting:

 

[Pencil]

I'm so thankful for him. Every abuse victim should be able to see him.

Some people, through savvy, compassion and attention literally save lives. I'm glad he saved yours! You are very fortunate.

 

[Pencil]

You wouldn't be referring to ANP's and EP's would you?

That one exactly! I couldn't find the link and so I rambled :eek:

 

[Pencil]

I think we might end up having a reference show down you and I!!!!:nailbiting:

I think it's 2-1 in your favour at the moment :D

 

[Pencil]

I love having this conversation, thank you Springer and Mrs Martinez.

But now I have to get my daughter ready for school.

 

[Springer80]

I've lost my ANP, my body physically gave out on me and the functioning me went poof into thin air. I am now left with EP me of which there were three and I worked them down to one. I call her huggy. She is the one that refuses to budge unless it's for safe and nice things. The doctors say I have chronic fatigue but what it feels like is one of those games with an electrified loopy wire that buzzes if you hit it. I've hit mine so many times, my body refuses to get up unless I KNOW I won't make it buzz. Difficult.I've been off work for months. The body and touch are in the remedy somewhere.