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Emotional Needs

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Is this referencing to the now or the past Pencil?

Never having them met, for me, makes it hard to accept them now for me, I do not understand what I am supposed to actually feel. I have never experienced unconditional love, protection or support when it comes to my emotions.

I need now people to show this to me, but I now have to be careful of the trust issue too. If my own mother could not show this, why should any one else. If I am shown concern for I do not trust their motives or cannot accept that they are being genuine, rather they are just being nice to shut me up, but do not really care.

I find it hard to connect emotionally and intimately because of it.

I know though that by not being able to receive them it makes it harder for people to take it from me, even though I am very non judgemental and do not base how I feel on impossible conditions.

I also have to learn to set boundaries so that my emotions are not stepped all over. However, at the moment the boundaries are set from behind the wall I have built, so nobody really get in enough to show concern or be protective or like me unconditionally. I hope that makes sense.

It is this part of the journey for me, the now. Not what I missed out of in the past. I cannot change that.

Therefore, I suppose I have to learn to be less naive, more trusting and allow people to see my emotions as they are without fear of rejection.

Not sure if that is what you meant though, sorry if not. :)

best wishes
Saffy :)
 
Thanks for your reply, Saffy. It makes sense, and yes, it addresses the question to a degree. It does not address the issues I have fully, since I did not ask a clear question.

My Therapist (now ex-T, for various reasons), told me to 'befriend the pain of unmet needs'. I experienced those words almost as a physical slap. Or is this the standard approach?
 
The reason I reacted so strongly is that unmet needs are inextricably linked to abuse, e.g., if one parent abuses, and the other parent merely watches, the unmet need is the need for protection. How do I befriend the pain of that? Do I then befriend the pain of abuse as a next step? Am I missing something here?
 
That's like saying, "Love the person who abuses you". Please. Like adding insult to injury.
Thank you Safenow, that is exactly how I felt. It took me nearly a week to actually freak out. I tried clarifying this with her 4 times, each time expecting her to modify her statement or clarify some misunderstanding, but no, apparently this is what she meant.

'Unmet need' does, moreover, not belong only to the past - it also refers to current unmet needs. So what is she trying to tell me? That there is something so unacceptable about me that I can't have my needs met, that I need to get cozy with the pain of being somehow outside of humanity and normal needs?
 
I'd like to know how the issue of unmet emotional needs is dealt with in therapy.

In many different ways, I imagine. I think it has to vary depending on the client and therapist. I would think the same would apply to any therapeutic approach to dealing with unmet emotional needs - the type of therapy will have a fundamental approach, and then there will be variations depending on the individuals themselves.

My Therapist..., told me to 'befriend the pain of unmet needs'. I experienced those words almost as a physical slap

I couldn't know what your therapist's meaning was.

I do know that there are approaches of allowing negative emotions and the shadow side of ourselves, our attributes and our lives, without hating them. That includes what we feel we lack, or ways in which we feel defective or damaged. Part of the thinking behind this is that seeing those feelings as unacceptable only perpetuates them. Instead the idea is to allow them and understand, express, grieve, process and move through them.

Some people call this welcoming the feelings. I don't know if befriending is the same idea. It doesn't mean you're happy about what happened, or are preparing to live with the pain forever. It means accepting the pain that you feel in the moment, instead of fighting or hating it.

The way I see it, it's like what's called urge-surfing for addiction. When you're craving or fixated on the substance, rather than try to push that away and think about something else, you ride out the urge like surfing a wave. You keep your awareness on it without acting on it, go with the feelings behind it (however painful) and let them flow, until the urge ebbs away again. I learnt this last year, and I'm finding it very effective.

Feelings naturally wax and wane. We interfere with that process when we've spent years blocking them, resenting them or picking at them like a scab. I know that a feeling can come up and stay for hours, or days, or weeks, because our experiences mean that our natural reactions to feelings have been altered. Learning to manage the emotions, process them when it's appropriate to, contain them and work through them, is part of giving ourselves something we weren't given when we were young.

Saying that we need to provide our own emotional needs is a bit like telling to someone who needs money desperately for something important, such as life-saving surgery, but who has zero money, to lend him/herself some. Or, to tell a diabetic to provide him/herself with insulin.
I think saying we have to meet our own emotional needs doesn't mean we have to generate it all ourselves. I think often it means finding things outside us that meet our emotional needs, and focussing on them. Those things might be in nature, the elements, animals, creativity, beauty, other people etc. We can learn and practise skills taught by therapists, books, online etc. These don't have to be huge things that are equal in size to what we missed. Anything we do creates a shift and heals us a little more. I like Caroline Myss's example of building healthy self-esteem - start by keeping one promise to yourself. For example, if you say you're going to the gym on Tuesday, go to the gym on Tuesday.

IMO, it means we have to do the work instead of wanting someone else to fix us. If we look to a spouse to fill in the gap left by our parent's lack of care, then we're setting them up to fail. Every time they fall short of our expectation, that will only reinforce our feeling of lack. If they leave us (and given the pressure we're putting on them, a happy relationship wouldn't be likely) then we will be wounded all the more. If we learn to care for ourselves, for example by learning self-soothing, coping skills, problem-solving and emotion regulation, we will have that all our lives, and will have something to offer to a partner in a healthy relationship too.
 
Hi Pencil! :)

I have to say that my take is very similar to Hashi's. From how you have explained your T before I certainly can't see her as wanting you to suffer or seeing suffering and the awful pain of unmet needs as being good.

I do think a lot of therapists (T's) who work with trauma are more and more focused on acceptance and I will say that acceptance has been a very helpful concept for me. I can't imagine there would be any other explanation than her using "befriend" as a term that means accept. And the word accept may not feel any more helpful for you of course but it isn't quite what it appears to be.

It is merely about not adding pain on top off pain. The rejecting of terrible feelings and the pushing away of them compounds and magnifies the hurt many many times.

Saying that we need to provide our own emotional needs is a bit like telling to someone who needs money desperately for something important, such as life-saving surgery, but who has zero money, to lend him/herself some.
I struggled to accept this when I first heard it (not aimed at me I must say as I have problems asking for help) but I think I understand it better now. It sounds harsh. it sounds unfeeling and as if the person does not understand. And the idea that they cannot be met by someone sometime can be so devastating that it can feel annihilating. But really what happens is that for some when they have not had those needs met as children then there is the deep need and belief that someone sometime will have to save them and make it all better.

And the sad truth is that we are adults now and that what we need is slightly different from when we were children. And sadly part of that is about learning to parent ourselves and fill as much of those needs we can - with the help of a compassionate therapist who is nurturing but who has good boundaries and isn't on an ego trip to save us.

It is widely thought of as being really dangerous for a therapist to try to save and do all the meeting of these needs for someone who is traumatised. It can lead them to be dependent, helpless and worse.

The reason I reacted so strongly is that unmet needs are inextricably linked to abuse
I am so sorry that happened to you. It seems to me that her saying that was almost a trigger for you and linked straight back to abuse.

I think acceptance (if that is what she meant) and the thoughts about unmet needs that she discussed are both very much in line with trauma therapy and helping attachment issues from what I have heard. Sometimes very painful things can still be right for us.

But it seems that this was also a triggering issue for you. Maybe it is possible that you ended up debating unmet needs when some of this is about your deep pain of not being protected being touched on. I wonder if it would help to leave the other topic and rather discuss those feelings.
 
How do I befriend the pain of that?

Pencil If I knew that I would be rich (emotionally) ;)

I too had a mother who sat and ignored it. I put it down now to her attitude and behaviour that fuelled her ignorance, NOT, me deserving what I got. I was the abused here and did not deserve anything. She, as a mother, was not behaving like a mother should. Her attitude still stinks, I realised now how manipulative, selfish and egotistical she really is. The flaws are hers not mine. I suppose I have put the owness on her rather than thinking I deserved it because it was me. if that makes sense. He was a control freak bully.


It does not address the issues I have fully, since I did not ask a clear question.

Sorry, I just thought I would put my experiences and thoughts in so we could chat about this further. I did not realise.

best wishes
Saffy :)
 
Sorry, I just thought I would put my experiences and thoughts in so we could chat about this further. I did not realise.
Oy, don't apologise! I asked a vague question and you put time and effort into writing a reply, and I am grateful for that!!

The flaws are hers not mine
Yes!:happy:

I just thought I would put my experiences and thoughts in so we could chat about this further
And I want to hear about that ...
 
Hashi and Abstract, I wrote a long, riveting, intelligent and fascinating reply earlier, then, poof, it disappeared into thin air. I'll try to reach those marvelous heights again later ... :arghh;
 
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