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Is Dissociation Universal?

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what happens when those events are released?
They call it "merging" You just become a more complete, whole person. Much happiness is coming your way. Keep loving your little one. It will make a world of difference for you.

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I can't begin to tell you have how many alters I used to have. The most recent count by the therapist people was 24. However, I can tell you there are now much less then that.

For me, there are only 4 little left. 1 preteen left. And a couple of young adults. And me. (Big grin here).
 
There are so many layers to this thread, and I tend to be a rambler, so I will try and stick to the topic.

1) The snapshot to me limits the 'memory' to only visual cues. Memories are full sensory experiences, each sense provides input should be explored to truly capture the moment. This translates to traumatic flashbacks because they can be triggered by any of the senses.

2) My inner child I lived in my own little fantasy world growing up, for this I am grateful. I read a lot, and I would often 'rewrite' new endings for random stories. I continued this habit into adulthood, so in many ways I have turned dissociation into a mental exercise. From hiddenhurt dissociation.

Children are commonly seen to dissociate---not because of trauma, but because every time they get a new type of experience, they have to modify or expand their faculties in order to assimilate it. In the meantime, the experience is dissociated and held in the unconscious. There, they "play with it," using their imagination until they work out a way to make a fit. Children go through a very high rate of new experiences and may frequently dissociate as a normal response to an unfamiliar event. They are continually modifying and expanding their system, or conscious mind.

My trauma occurred later, starting at about 15 and coming to a boil at 25, I don't know how I would have coped if I hadn't been able to assimilate some rather bizarre experiences. The trauma came as a result of understanding the impact my experiences had in shaping who I have become. Finally,

3) Frozen Emotions
My therapist has attributed this to me cutting off, or disassociating from my emotions. Since most of my flashbacks are emotional, she has referred to them as frozen emotions. Has anyone else run into this concept or has a similar type of disassociation?
We are trained to distrust our emotions at a young age and I believe this to be the most damaging aspect of modern society. We are setting ourselves up to be traumatized. Our instincts for self-preservation are grounded in our emotions, so when we don't trust them, or worse, feel ashamed of them, we are diminishing our ability to cope with trauma and avoid future traumatic experiences.

For example, I took a leave of absence from school because I was falling apart. I had a nervous breakdown but I picked myself back up. I went back to school where I met a girl who was an emotional roller coaster. I told my stepfather that I was afraid of her. He told me that I should be afraid for her, and that my reaction was selfish and unsympathetic. At first I was ashamed, but then I got angry. I couldn't control my gut reaction to this girl. If I have no control over an emotional response, why should I feel shame or guilt? Her instability threatened the fragile stability I had worked so hard to achieve, dang straight I should be afraid of her, she was a danger to my self-preservation.

Emotions are neutral, how we deal with those emotions decides their connotation. Guilt and shame serve no real purpose in therapy.
 
What are your thoughts on this?
If the trauma is severe enough, this dissociation can result in a completely separate personality, as in those with MPD/DID (Multiple Personality Disorder / Dissociative Identity Disorder).
I think its probably important to say that the severity is not what does it alone apparently. It has to happen early - pre 5 years old I believe and repeated (often) so that it gets grouped as development happens and so that the personality develops that way. For the ability to develop. And on top of that there has to be the genetics involved too.

Its also probably important to say that parts therapy used as a way of treatment does not automatically mean someone has dissociation and that it is rather a concept used. That is where the controversy has arisen I believe. When people saw ego states as alters.

And then we get to the whole structural dissociation theory where all unresolved PTSD trauma is considered a state or part (emotional part EP) even though it is not sophisticated or independent in the way that a DID part is (which would be considered an apparently normal person ANP). And then according to that theory complex trauma could result in a more sophisticated emotional part.

And that all of these are different to ego states that we all have. Child, adult and parent etc. Blah blah blah! :rolleyes: Just the way I understand it!
 
It is more than a snapshot as it is not only a memory, it is a 'being' or a 'state' - which is dynamic, trapped in a 'zone'. They 'live'. But you're right, the snapshot is how it appeared to me as well. It's how one accesses or identifies them. The snapshot is the moment that the split took place, and shows where they are trapped.

For me the idea of frozen child states implies that my earlier self in various stages exist within, what I experienced was the creation of three different ways of dealing with those situations, like three different slip streams for depositing the things I couldn't deal with (actually one for, externality one for internality and one for keeping me safe). Although I created these 'systems' in myself to store the trauma I never felt I'd separated myself into 'personalities'. I personified these streams of storage/reaction in-order to interpret what it was I did and what effect they had on me.

Essentially I think it's a bit like Dorian Gray and his portrait in the attic, but with a separate picture for each function you require it store.

So some people have EP's/inner children which aren't the same sex as they are....so that's obviously not a snapshot of hem in a historical past but often an emotionally logical and directly oppositional to the treatment they receive in the body of their actual gender.
 
It has to happen early - pre 5 years old I believe
Does this mean the first instance where a new personality is created must be prior to age 5? Otherwise, how does someone develop alters that exist at later ages?


And then we get to the whole structural dissociation theory where all unresolved PTSD trauma is considered a state or part (emotional part EP) even though it is not sophisticated or independent in the way that a DID part is (which would be considered an apparently normal person ANP).
This explains a whole lot to me. This is what I've been experiencing lately, and what my therapist has been hinting at. Guess I need to do some reading about "structural dissociation theory" and "ego states". :)
 
Although I created these 'systems' in myself to store the trauma I never felt I'd separated myself into 'personalities'.
I've never even gone as far as specifically creating different systems or states, and I do not have distinct separate personalities. However, in my recent experience, it appears I do have individual, unique "emotional personalities" -- exactly as Abstract described these.
 
The snapshot to me limits the 'memory' to only visual cues. Memories are full sensory experiences, each sense provides input should be explored to truly capture the moment. This translates to traumatic flashbacks because they can be triggered by any of the senses.
I can see that "snapshot" could imply visual memory only, but I do realize that the "frozen state" is the collection of all sensory input from an event or series of events.
 
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