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maryel42

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I had another wave of emotional flashback tonight. Came out of nowhere, without giving me time to catch my breath as they normally come, and just slammed down. My head starts hurting from how fast it came. There's still this massive disconnect between what I'm feeling and what I'm knowing. Does that make sense?

I know what this flashback was. I have had it for years and years, dreamed it and thought about it and got to the point where I could talk about it in therapy or with a person off the street (not that I would, but I could have). All along it was still like I was watching it happen to somebody else who was me. Which was bad enough.

It got to the point where I didn't think about it much, even. It was done.

So fast foward to when I had my last big flare up of ptsd symptoms and messiness, and I came to grips with one of the most life-changing traumas I'd ever faced, and that was the first time I ever had real emotional flashbacks. Just these overwhelming massive floods of rawness. I want to say that it felt more real than it had in the actual moment. Or maybe that's because I know now what I didn't know then, because when it happened I was so numbed to the reality of the life I was in that the trauma itself didn't really register all the way.

Now that I'm older and far away from it, I can see how it had a major long term effect. There's a Before and an After, and once you get to After everything at your core changes in some undefinable way. I don't know how to explain that any better. And maybe what I went through then had such an impact and came up because I was safe enough for the first time in my life to face it.

Which is probably what is happening now with this new thing. The Thing That I Cannot Name. I wrote this to my therapist earlier. .It's frustrating. Again, I have worked through this before, on many levels, and it didn't hurt anymore and I could just say it. Now, suddenly, I can't. I can't bring myself to say the words that lay out the nature of what was done. I can't talk about it. I can't type it. I can't reenact it with puppets (which I say for the humor. I haven't tried that one. Wouldn't that be wild, though?) What I can do is try, and curl up in a tight knot as my words go away. I can talk around it and hint at it, and it doesn't seem to make a difference at all. I get slammed with these raw emotions, and it's not like I'm watching that kid anymore. I AM that kid.

And like I've posted here elsewhere, while my grownup self knows and has dealt with it, that little kid hasn't. All I know is that she's scared and she's needing something I can't give her. I'm working on how. I'm working on that slowly because I don't want to screw it up rushing into something. But how do I deal with the meantime?

This is part of what set me off on Monday. This is part of why I drifted into my therapist's office on autopilot and sat shaking in a chair for close on two hours until I came back to reality and into my own skin again.

minor note- he wasn't in the office at all, turns out. I half-referenced it when I got to session yesterday, figuring that he must have heard about it, but he hadn't. So, good? I figured it was. He was glad I could do that, could come there, though, which made me glad. I told him that I didn't want to go into it. My social services interview, which set off massive triggers and pushed me into a very bleak place, coupled with the emotional wave of terror and just... blind panic. That's what I can say that comes closest to it. Blind panic. My body flips to autopilot and seeks out a default hiding place to regroup. My normal one wasn't convenient. I ended up there.

It's been a lot of years since I ended up in my therapist's waiting room feeling not at all real.

Why do I post insanely long things? Why do I have these waves, and why am I suddenly feeling that I'm that tiny girl? Shouldn't the feelings come first and the knowledge come later? If I already have the knowledge and processed it, and had all those years of peace and resolution over it, why is it back?
 
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And like I've posted here elsewhere, while my grownup self knows and has dealt with it, that little kid hasn't. All I know is that she's scared and she's needing something I can't give her. I'm working on how. I'm working on that slowly because I don't want to screw it up rushing into something.

Why do I have these waves, and why am I suddenly feeling that I'm that tiny girl? Shouldn't the feelings come first and the knowledge come later? If I already have the knowledge and processed it, and had all those years of peace and resolution over it, why is it back?

I can relate to this and started a thread about my own experience recently. I'm posting a link to it here because the responses I got were really helpful to me and may help you too:

https://www.myptsd.com/threads/a-stage-on-my-journey-unsplitting.40601/

Take a look at this thread too:

https://www.myptsd.com/threads/breakthrough-with-my-3-year-old-self.40646/

There seems to be a little group of us going through very similar experiences just now. I am very glad we have all found each other on here.
 
Shouldn't the feelings come first and the knowledge come later?

Yes, but sometimes they don't. For me, I've processed a lot of my own crap, but sometimes I can get triggered and have an emotional flashback because it reminds me of something I haven't processed. I'm sorry that happened to you. (It's scary, isn't it?)

While I hate hate hate flashbacks, I find that generally I feel even *more* at peace after them because they've processed another piece of the PTSD puzzle. Be gentle with yourself.
 
@maryel42 - I can relate exactly to what you are describing. I think we gradually approach the reality of what happened in stages. Sometimes we can intellectualise it first, and then start to visualise it and then - bam - in come the full-on feelings of it happening to us, not to a version of us out there from the perspective of an observer. We were probably so numbed out with shock and terror whilst the thing was actually happening to us, we didn't feel those feelings fully then. Now suddenly it is time or we are safe enough to do so. I find the force of these kind of flashbacks incomprehensible; they are immense. As @bell says, we just have to be very gentle with ourselves and know that the emotions do pass. I hope for you it will form a kind of completion now. Or at least you won't have to do that bit of it again.

As @Bedbug mentioned, there are several of us going through this at the moment and all trying to support one another. Here is some of the wonderful support and kindness I was offered the other day: https://www.myptsd.com/threads/splitting.40585/
 
I've been experiencing similar kinds of flashbacks that are revealing new memories that help explain current fears, beliefs, and/or behaviors. As painful as they are, my T reminds me that it's good that I can remember what happened, that the outcome of treatment is better if I know what happened and can connect the hard feelings in the present with something specific from the past. He also assures me that we don't remember things until our brain, body, and spirits can handle it.

Sometimes this is all hard to hear in the moment and doesn't make the pain or terror any less, but it does give some meaning and hope to the experience.

Hang in there. You're doing the hard work. It'll pay off in time.
 
Dear @maryel42 I can relate to so much of what you're writing, it brought me to tears. I'm so sorry you have to go through this now. Realizing you ARE that kid, feeling it, being her, in it's brutality- it takes time to comprehend and to integrate it. I have been going through a similar process for a while. Thinking I had realized what had happened to me, that I had dealt with it. Only to end up like that kid again. Being her, feeling all the feelings I never felt back then, because I was too numb, because I wasn't there, I couldn't be.

I see it as a sign that I'm safe enough to deal with it. I believe it comes in grades when I'm ready. And I feel the healing, I feel that when I'm able to give that girl what she needs, when I listen to her, when I talk to her, she calms down. And the grownup me has more energy to go on. I'm more at peace. I'm able to give her what she needs, the grownup me is able to hold her hand and give her what she should've had back then.

I believe that working on what we need in the here and now, all though we are not able to connect with what the kid needs, we will better be able to give it to her. In my experience, when I learned to reach out a hand here and now, all though I didn't know why I was feeling the way I did, when I learned how to , I was more in contact with what the kid needed. And I was able to give it to her. Because I had learned how to receive comfort and love. And to give it to myself. (It sounds very simple, but it wasn't. This has taken me years to learn. And I'm still learning.)

You are not alone.

A big hug to you if you want one.
 
I suspect that I am on the verge of going into this stage. . .feeling the trauma as the kid rather than processing things as an adult sympathizing with the kid. . .I hope that makes sense. I'm scared as hell about it.

I generally can sense when my brain is ready to process something and I generally have time to go create a safe space (in my bedroom, wife distracting kids so they don't accidentally see/hear anything, blinds down, etc.) and then just kinda give it permission to happen. This time, I have felt it building and building, but I have intentionally avoided doing the safe space thing. I know it will be a positive in the long run, but my brain is doing every trick it can think of to avoid letting the processing happen.

Ugh, pretty sure this is going to suck. I wish you the best, maryel.
 
I'm kinda overwhelmed by the comments here but in a good way.

I think it's harder for me to handle this now I have my own kids. I can't blame myself so much for being helpless back then. It also is giving me more insight on how to reach that kid. My daughter spent most of her life non verbally autistic; communication is still pretty new to her. It's great! ... But for a long time I felt I was constantly patiently reaching across a big divide showing and practicing love and acceptance to her. She's my kid. There wasn't a question in my mind that she deserved less than unquestioning love and acceptance
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It's creating a massive disconnect inside me.

On the up side, I can sleep again. Last night, this morning. I feel human again.
 
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