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Dissociation Makes Me Able To Stay Sane?

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For me it got to the point when I could not shut her down completely anyhow, and I realised how much energy it took and that I just could not do it any more, but also as I gained more and more compassion for myself in the place I was then, I realised that actually what I really needed as that little girl, was to actually find a place of real safety in that place, which wasn't shutting it out, but finally allowing myself to bring it together, feel the emotions and work through them, so she could finally be free, and not trapped in that scary place with all the bad things which happened to her, while I just felt angry with myself and did everything I could to keep it all shut away, because I just could not face it and the pain at all.

Thank you @HelenB for taking the time to read and reply. If you don't mind me asking, how did you learn to live with the little girl, as in how did you learn to work through it all and bring things to a place of safety? I have no compassion for my little girl me, just hatred. You are brave and courageous in being able to get to that place. Did you have a particular type of therapy? Sorry to ask, I'm just at loss at the moment as to how I'm ever going to be able to go forward from here, all I can see myself doing is going backwards at the moment.

Again thank you for the reply. :)
 
Thank you @TimeToHeal, I haven't had a chance to talk to my psychologist yet, I'll be seeing her on Tuesday. I'll have to ask her about this. Thank you for explaining what "numbing" is, I get confused between all the different labels for things, it's good to know I'm not the only one who can't cry.
 
@greenleaf, thank you for your reply. I hope to be able to get to that place you are getting to at the moment, to be able to work through the feelings slowly and not having it be so overwhelming.
 
Dissociation is deceptive in that when we dissociate we FEEL safer, but we are actually UNsafe. That is, dissociation protects our minds and makes us mentally safe, however if we are not grounded in the present moment, dissociation may actually put us into unsafe situations where we are unable to protect ourselves from others. True safety means that we are both mentally and physically safe. Unfortunately in the case of dissociation, our physical safety is compromised in an effort to save our minds.

I can see what you mean, and I can see many examples in my adult life where I have been in dangerous situations perhaps because of impaired judgement because of the dissociation. I guess I'm a bit hesitant to trust that not being dissociated will protect me anyway, because I've always felt like other's held the reins in my life, i.e. bad things happen anyway. When I was growing up I couldn't stop anything that was happening although I blamed myself for not being able to stop the bad things, and as an adult I find it hard to believe that I have any power now to stop the bad things. I know I have control over my own actions, but I guess I feel like I haven't got any real ability to protect myself from others other than by removing myself from situations.

But yes, perhaps if I hadn't have been dissociated in certain situations I would've seen the danger signals earlier.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and reply. :)
 
Thank you @MissMacD, it really is a useful mechanism whilst trauma is occurring.
I am sorry you have had traumas that have caused you to need to use it. :hug:
 
I spent a lot of time last night thinking on this topic. I'm sick of the see-saw effect of dissociation and re-experiencing. On the one hand I want to be whole and be dealing with it and be at peace with my past and the traumas, but on the other hand I'm terrified I won't be able to cope. Whatever I do, whichever way I deal with it, there is going to be pain, and is not going to be easy.

From reading your comments, I'm understanding that maybe dissociation isn't for long-term coping and in effect I'm just avoiding dealing with trauma. I wish I was braver in being able to face my traumas head on and tackle it, maybe one day I'll be strong enough to not retreat into this place of safety.

I think I'm going to have to talk to my psychologist and ask her what the plan is, what my treatment plan is because I saw her for 2-3 years (I think it was that long), and although I managed to stop self-harming whilst seeing her, I've felt frustrated that I haven't been able to get any further. She's said I've improved but I just can't see it. I don't even know what type of therapy we've been doing, and she's said she's worked with a lot of clients who've experienced trauma, but I need to know what her plan is, where we're going with it all.
 
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with Solara's comments.

While I suppose there are some people who "wake up" from dissociation to find themselves in a shady bar with undesirable people, I am not hearing that is the case for you. I'm hearing that it is helping you to be able to function and deal with life.

It was NOT your responsibility to "recognize the danger" when you were a child going through horrible abuse. You had no control over those things and hold absolutely no responsibility for what happened.

No, dissociation is not the most healthy of our coping methods, and you will learn new and healthier ways, but right now is what you've got. Don't beat yourself up. :)
 
Thank you @HelenB for taking the time to read and reply. If you don't mind me asking, how did you learn to live with the little girl, as in how did you learn to work through it all and bring things to a place of safety? I have no compassion for my little girl me, just hatred. You are brave and courageous in being able to get to that place. Did you have a particular type of therapy? Sorry to ask, I'm just at loss at the moment as to how I'm ever going to be able to go forward from here, all I can see myself doing is going backwards at the moment.

Again thank you for the reply. :)

You do not need to be sorry for asking. I am happy to share my experiences with you if they can help you at all, and really do hope that they will be able to.

Learning to live with the little girl for me, is still a process, but one which over time I have been really trying more and more to do. It began for me quite a long time ago, when a counsellor I was seeing recomended to me a book by Penny Parks, called rescuing the inner child. I read it, and at that time did begin to work through some of the things, and was able to allow myself to connect to some of the different parts and write letters from those parts, and bring in many ways more connection, but as it got harder, and the things coming up became so much for me to deal with, I again ended up in a place where I could not deal with it at all, and again went back to trying to shut it all out, and not face it at all. Not too surprisingly it all went pretty pear shaped, because in reality, as much as I did not want to connect to those hurting and screaming parts inside me, it just did not work, and my eating disorder and everything became pretty bad then, and then from that place, I really did learn, that it really was never going to go away by just trying to shut it all out, and that the only way was to be able to finally find a way of releasing it all, and I really did realise, that though so much had happened, which had caused that little girl in me to be so terrified and so hurting, that now it was me which was being so angry with that part of myself, and that now only I could really do anything about that.

From that point it has still been very much a process. As a Christian, I know that my faith has been very key to me, in being able to find that safety, and have been very fortunate that I have been able to have the support of a Christian ministry centre - Ellel Ministries, which has been invaluable to me and still is. At one point I also had a series of Cognative Analytical Therapy sessions, which in many ways were very helpful to be able to map, and connect to so many of the different things going on inside me, though at that point I was still very much in the place that I could not accept that the things had really happened to me, and expressed them only as a story in my head, which was about a teddy, so when they came to an end, as they were limited in number by the NHS, and they decided that they had concerns about someone in my past, who they were going to refer to social services, despite the fact that to me I still could not accept it was real, I ended up in a very hard place, and as they also offered me no follow up support, I did again go very much back to that angry and hating myself place and was so angry with myself for even letting any of it have a voice, and did in fact OD then, which is something I really had thought my children would always keep me from doing. Fortulately I have a very good GP, who had called me back after I had called earlier in the day, and she could tell somthing was wrong and kept me on the phone until I did tell her, and then called me an ambulance, and then from there, I was also having the support from Ellel, who really did help me get past that.

Over the time when I have been going through it the other therapy which I have had, which I know has been so invaluable to me, has been therapy which I have been having with a sexual therapist. I first saw her about six years ago, and when my eating disorder got really bad had to stop and be refered to someone else, but once that had all stabilised, and I had finally come to the place where I made the decision that I was going to chose life and not death, I was able to go back to her and work through things with her, and since last summer, we have been doing EMDR and working through the different things which have been coming up, and though it has been very hard, I know this really has helped me so much more to be able to connect to and allow myself to voice the things which have happened to me, and though I still feel very mixeed about it, and do still feel very angry with myself so so often about even allowing myself to say anything or feel anything or even let it matter, more and more I have been able in that place to realise I was just a little girl, and though that hurts so much and there are still many many mixed amotions, I realy am trying to continue to allow myself to feel and process so many of the things and do know there is no other option for me any more, and that I really do have to now finally allow myself to feel, becuase it really is the only way I can ever find safety, and I know I cannot keep trying to fight it all any more, and that really it is true that that little girl. - me - just has so much hurt and pain and so many fears, and that me shutting it all out and being angry with me too, just is not going to help that any more, and that the only way really is allowing myself to bring that safety now, which I can now bring, and she so much needed, because it just is not going to go away any other way.

I am certainly not going to pretend it is easy. The compassion I have towards myself is still very much less than the anger which I feel towards myself still and it really does not take a lot to take it all back over the egde, as though I know it is not really safer, it does still feel so much safer to me in those little girl places where I really had no other place to go, but I really do know in my head, that the reality is that it was not in fact my fault and it is true that I was just a little girl, and the compassion I know I do have for so many other people, I really do try and be able to find for myself too, and really am working so much on.

I hope you do not mind that I have rambled on quite so much at you in reply to your question, and hope it in some way does help you with your journey and where you are at too. I do also think that you are courageous to be in the place you are in, and to be working on the things you are. It is only natural that you will also at times come back to that place which for you very likely would have been the only place you could at least feel safe, even if in reality it did not really stop the things happening and I really hope that you are able to find so much more safety and somehow feed that more and more into the places you are in now, as you deserve so much to be able to be free and be able to be whole, and every part of you really does deserve to be able to feel that and find the real safety which can come when that can finally be found.

God Bless
Helen x
 
@HelenB thank you for sharing your experience with me, EDMR sounds interesting, there's only one guy who does it in my area but I've sent him an email asking him if he knows anyone else down here who does it, as his page states he's not taking any more patients. You've helped me more than you can know, thank you for reminding me there is hope. :)

@TimeToHeal, I am safe when I dissociate most of the time, I think perhaps what Solara meant (although I could've interpreted it wrong), was that as an adult it can impair one's judgement of dangerous people? Which does actually apply to me at times in my adult life, like with being raped by my neighbour last year when 11 weeks pregnant, it might not have happened if I hadn't have realized sooner what he was intending on doing but being generally dissociated I probably missed the warning signs/signals.

But in saying that, dissociation is what I know and at this point in time I think it's keeping me safe from completely breaking down or doing myself in. I'm not self-harming these days despite being sorely tempted to, but even with self harm I think it was my way to force myself to dissociate as I always felt the first few cuts but none after that.

Thank you for replying and giving me your insight and thoughts. :)
 
I have gone through breaking the dissociative process with the help of friends. Another of my friends used a video camera. There is usually a physical marker that shows you are just about to 'go'. For me it was putting my hands over my eyes. As soon as a friend noticed that he pointed it out each time. It meant I was leaving my body and going into the past or flashing back. I would use Warheads sour candies to try to 'bring myself back'. It worked.

The key is in knowing when you go out. What is the sign. I can now feel my eyes start to go (the thousand mile stare) that is a key indicator of dissociation. I walk around and it is gone. It has been a process but it can be done. It was worth it for me because I do want to live my life fully and I wasn't. Everyone dissociates in some way or another. I think it is really all about whether you dissociate in a way that is counterproductive to living life safely and well. I think there would be no harm in trying to recognize what dissociation feels like. So many have done it all our lives and not known about it. I went 45 years. I am happy I put the work in to break it but I tell you - it was no walk in the park.

Warmest wishes @Nothing
 
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