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Did This Psychologist Cross The Line?

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Rochelle

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This is my first time posting on any forum! Thanks in advance for Any replies :)

I saw a "psychologist" today for a psychological assessment for therapy and there's a few things she said that just don't sound right or very professional. Btw I have PTSD, depression and an eating disorder.

First she asked me to go into detail of my childhood sexual abuse (between 6-10 years) and then told me "I don't think that's abuse, the guys were just experimenting and probably fancied you, they never attacked you and it didn't go as far as sex, it's natural for us to be turned on and enjoy sexual things whether we want it or not" ?? at 6 years old I didn't know you could be 'turned on'.... But anyway, the first guy when I was 6 is about 4/5 years older, the second guy when I was between 8-10 is 7 years older than me. Am I over reacting? Is this just experimentation rather than abuse?
At 9/10 years old I was constantly dreaming about rape, abuse (physical and sexual) and incest up until recently, I'm 22 now, the dreams are less frequent at the moment. She asked me "how on earth did you even get those things into your head?" I thought it was obvious because of the abuse, no?

Then she asked me to go into detail about my rape in December 2011. (I've known my rapist for over 10years, so of course I trusted him, rape was the furthest thing from my mind). Then she said "I don't understand why you didn't see the warning signs... and the fact that you didn't even realise you had been raped until you asked someone (I wasn't drunk or anything, I just wasn't clear on the definition of rape especially when it wasn't "a stranger in a dark alley" rape) suggests to me that you only want therapy to validate your experiences, we don't do that, if you want someone to nod in agreement to what you're saying you need to go to counselling, I don't think therapy is going to be right for you" ... I've been to counselling and therapy (cbt) before, I'm well aware of the difference! ... Then she continued to say "but I don't think a counsellor would be able to unpick all this mess" .... Any advice on what I'm supposed to do if I don't "qualify" for therapy but my problems are too complex for counselling? And apparently psychotherapy is definitely not an option for me aswell :/ (I'm not even sure what that is).

She also said "it's really a shame that anti-depressants aren't working for you, because they can really give you a boost etc"... As if to say taking some pills will make everything okay, I'm not against medication at all, but it doesn't treat the underlying issues.

There's more stuff she said but I was so upset I stopped listening. She ended the assessment with "do you still want to be referred for therapy then, or have I put you off" and I said yes, but she defo killed the little positivity and optimism I had about therapy :/
Was she just being brutally honest and I'm just taking it to heart or did she cross the line?

Again thanks for any replies :)
 
Wow- this psychologist does not sound very helpful. Trust your instinct! If you think you were abused you probably were.

Therapy can help. Medication might help.

I cannot believe she got you to go into so much detail on a first appointment. That sounds totally unprofessional in my opinion. Do you have the option of seeing somebody else who 'gets it''?[DOUBLEPOST=1399657683,1399657589][/DOUBLEPOST]My trauma is a complicated mess. I have had/ am having EMDR. It has really helped me.
 
I, of course, do not know your whole past but there were things she said that were bad regardless of what happened to you.

hen she said "I don't understand why you didn't see the warning signs... and the fact that you didn't even realise you had been raped until you asked someone

Denial is common with rape victims, so is downplaying what happened. Also, 'warning signs' are not always easily seen, a lot of people live in a world of 'this will never happen to me' so even if the signs are there they may deny seeing them and then what is one persons warning sign isn't someone elses...

validate your experiences, we don't do that, if you want someone to nod in agreement to what you're saying you need to go to counselling

This statement confuses me a lot and I wont even try to get in it.

She doesn't sound like a good fit for you, or for anyone really...
 
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Unfortunately, not every psychologist is a good psychologist. I'm not sure where she did her training but perhaps it was at the College of Invalidation and Unhelpfulness? Or the School of Stay Well Away from This One?

I think it would be a shame if she put you off therapy, because there are some really great therapists out there (whether psychologists or psychotherapists or sometimes counselling psychiatrists). It does take a bit of researching, vetting and trying out though. You need to think about three main things - the therapists' approach (training and the way they work), the therapist's experience of trauma, and whether you and the therapist happen to be a good fit.

I'm afraid I don't know what the setup is that meant this person was assessing you for a referral. Do you have any other options for finding a therapist? Personally, I wouldn't think a referral from this one would be of much value. But seeing someone good, who's a good match for you, could be of great value.

You deserve better than this.
 
Hi, I also find this behaviour from a psychologist really - well - weird... :oops:

I am glad you realise that medication does not solve the problem in this case - it can help to ease your symptoms, but therapy/counselling (I apologise for not knowing the exact difference) - clearly, what has happened, bothers you, therefore it matters, therefore it should be discussed in therapy... The actions of those boys made you feel confused, ashamed - it matters! You do matter...

Even one single incident can cause much pain to a child who has no idea what is going on.


"I don't think that's abuse, the guys were just experimenting and probably fancied you, they never attacked you and it didn't go as far as sex, it's natural for us to be turned on and enjoy sexual things whether we want it or not"

At the age of six, you do not desire for sexual contact... A "mild" form of abuse can be devastating. I was abused since I was three and it started as something "mild" - but even this hurt me a lot... And - at least that how it felt to me - the less "severe" the abuse was, the more guilty I felt.

Nothing of that was your fault.

I would also advise you to consider finding another psychologist...

Oh, and welcome to the forum :tup:
 
Not overreacting AT ALL. I am so sorry you had to go through this. You deserve a much better, caring and helpful doctor! I had a doctor say similar things to me when I was growing up in an abusive environment and had a family friend rape me (like you, had to have it pointed out to me by another person because it wasn't back ally!). It was very hard because then I grew up to think all that was very normal, very invalidating! Now I have better doctors thank goodness!

Thinking of you! Welcome to to the forum, were all here for you!!:hug:
 
This is very very unprofessional, out of the ordinary, ignorant, and frankly I'm utterly stunned. This is something that is strange to the point of being weird and sends alarm bells ringing about the ability of this person to assess anything.

I know that certain places do use people who aren't trained in psychology to ask initial screening questions to try to send you to the right professional to properly assess needs of treatment. It's meant to save time, but in my view wastes it!

But even so, those people doing the screening aren't meant to offer any personal view of anything - and what that person said to you is WHY they are not - because they are not qualified or even experienced enough to do any more than ask the prescribed questions and write down what you say, and pass it on to someone else.

So I would report this if I was you. What country are you in? If in the UK (and it sounds like the Uk system), then I would get in touch with MIND, and ask advice. They can also provide advocacy in some cases.
 
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