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I Feel Totally Discriminated Against!!

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I am not sure about the pet law, on that I am simply stating what the advocacy lawyer stated, although he wasn't 100% sure how it would rule in court either. Right now I have sent over all of mine and the apartment's written conversations to the lawyer to see where we stand.

I know my Psychiatrist will state my need for a large breed dog as I have tested to see if a smaller breed would work and it did not.

I do want to thank you @anthony for challenging my views, it will help me build a better case either way in court or outside of court. Like I said, I try to see the other side but sometimes I am blindsided by my needs and/or wants. Like anyone else I am not perfect. I just know my parents are refusing getting rid of the other dogs, but on the other hand I NEED this service dog. My dissociation is getting worse by the week...
 
I used to live in a place that kept on changing their rules. I did not like the changes as they inconvenienced me greatly. I cannot wait until I am free of that place. I moved but my place is still up for sale.

It will be interesting to see how this turns out.
 
It is definitely no fun for sure! I hope you get out of your situation soon! We will definitely be moving either way when our lease is up next year!!

I will be posting here with any updates.
 
I had a lawyer here tell me similar in relation to challenging child support, no worries case and a win for sure, and $15k later he then said the judge could actually decide either way, as the law is more a guideline for them and that the judge rules based on all contributing factors. He then wanted another $10k to continue... I gave up on lawyers. What he said though he should have said from the start, being the law is really a guideline for judges judgement based on all contributing factors, and that every law is not strict against every case, especially where the "best interest" of others is concerned.
 
oh yes, I know this full well sadly. I honestly don't want this to go to court, I want them to be made aware of the proper way to handle this and the end result being having the service dog I NEED. I originally contacted the advocacy program just to confirm my rights and thats when the lawyer was brought in.

Courts hold no credential for me. Courts allowed my dad to keep beating the sh*t out of me and his wife molest me just because it wasn't life threatening. I would feel better holding this out of court but I will do what is needed. Ultimately if they are not willing to allow the SD, we want out of our lease.

I am looking for a dog specifically that doesn't bark a lot, is use to living indoors and is friendly. I have found an 18 month old boxer/lab mix who is use to living indoors with children and is very affectionate. I am going to see her tomorrow and possibly take her to my hometown for a 4 day trial and for my trainer friend to take a look at her. Boxers and Labs are both friendly breeds. I would NEVER intentionally put anyone else in danger or cause an unreasonable nuisance. This is the reason why I took Cady back despite my being attached to her and having paid $200 that I didn't get back.
 
I guess I'm hazy on the need for a service dog and two emotional support dogs when one can and should do both jobs.

It doesn't matter what the apartment owners said so much as what is on the written lease. If you get into a battle with them, the written lease will take precedence as the spoken word would just be you against them with no proof.

I think it's important from here on forward that you learn to get EVERYTHING in writing. I know this is a life lesson and you're young, but this is the second time in a week that you've relied on what someone has said without getting it in writing and it's coming back to bite you in the arse. (Not trying to be harsh.)
 
Yes @Solara I am now regretting not getting their acceptance of 2 dogs and a SD in writing. Hindsight is 20/20. We are in the process of getting another copy of our lease. I was in the hospital for attempted suicide when my parents signed the lease, so I haven't seen it. I don't trust them to have read it.

As far as the multiple dogs, like I told anthony, keeping them both would be a benefit and loosing them would be extremely sad, HOWEVER, I am slowly trying to adjust my parents to the fact that we might have to give one of our pets back to my grandmother until we can either get out of our lease or it is up. The bottom line is I need the SD, I need it before school starts in the Fall and I need to be back to living up here before the fall as well so I can attend school.
 
No @Ayesha , the first dog "Cady" did not work out so I gave her back (as said on that post). I am trying out the Boxer/lab mix and allowing my friend that is going to help me train my dog to see her.
 
I can't read all of this thread so far, but I want to make a point before I forget. I will be most likely posting more later when I have more time, and anxiety isn't interfering with my reading comprehension.

I am not a lawyer or any type of trained or licenced legal worker. One of my hobbies is to research service dogs and laws. There is a great deal of misunderstanding regarding the various laws about service dogs. FHA, ADA, Rehabilitation act of 1973, various state and local laws can add to the confusion. Federal laws take precedence over all other laws. A state or lesser level of government can not enforce a law that is more restrictive than federal law. Next state and then local laws. There are still several states, counties and cities, that are in direct contradiction to the federal laws, not to even try to count the various businesses and organizations rules. Many lawyers even don't understand the laws simply because it's outside of their specialization. Yes, I've had several battles already with companies and even my city and it's lawyers. I've won every time. I have not needed to go to court yet, but I know sooner or later I probably will. I don't back down or blink.

Service dogs are still classified as a pet


Not in America. There is NO size, or breed limit for service dogs. No one can say "get a smaller dog, or larger dog (<-- link, could have been a service dog), or a different breed, or a different sex of dog". Even tea cup chihuahua's or great danes can be service dogs IF they can perform tasks for a person with a disability. Service dogs are NOT defined as pets under the ADA and other federal laws. They are under the same category as medical assistance devices such as canes, walkers, wheelchairs (sounds a little harsh, but the law has to be as clear as it can be to avoid "misinterpretation" (I know, kind of an oxymoron)). If a housing unit has a 2 dog limit, and the tenant has 2 dogs AND a service dog, the housing unit can not legally count the service dog towards the 2 dog limit. The service dog is exempt because it is not a "pet" it is a working dog, or medical assistance device.

Americans with disabilities act March 15, 2011.
  • Beginning on March 15, 2011, only dogs are recognized as service animals under titles II and III of the ADA.
  • A service animal is a dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for a person with a disability.
  • Generally, title II and title III entities must permit service animals to accompany people with disabilities in all areas where members of the public are allowed to go.

In addition to the provisions about service dogs, the Department’s revised ADA regulations have a new, separate provision about miniature horses that have been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. (Miniature horses generally range in height from 24 inches to 34 inches measured to the shoulders and generally weigh between 70 and 100 pounds.) *bolding is from the ADA website. I left it there.

To have a service dog, one must have a qualifying disability recognized by a licensed medical provider (including psychiatric). The person must have a recommendation for a service dog by said medical provider (often in the form of a prescription or simply a letter). Service dogs do not need to be professionally trained, nor certified, they can be self taught by the owner. [self edit] Service dogs in training are only recognized and have the same protection in a few states. Many states do not allow service dogs in training to accompany their owner until considered adequately trained (open to interpretation).

Exemptions to service dogs are religious buildings and functions, personal residences, rooms where a sterile environment must be maintained - surgery procedure rooms, burn recovery rooms, Some zoos may have service dog restricted areas if they can prove the presence of a service dog would be detrimental to the zoo's animals (disease, open range, etc).

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As to the housing unit requiring the exact medical condition that qualifies her for a service dog, here in America the laws about medical privacy are very strong. they can not ask what her medical condition is for a service dog, but CAN ask for an emotional support animal. The service dog falls under the ADA laws, the emotional support animal falls under the FHA laws.

Demanding her to reveal her medical or psychiatric condition(s) for the service dog does amount to harassment, and violation of her medical privacy. If she has documentation of the housing units request for this, she has a solid case (once again, I am not a lawyer or other legal entity, this is not legal advice).

http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
http://servicedogcentral.org/content/node/460
Link Removed (didn't have time to fully read this one, might have outdated info).


Out of time, bbl
 
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