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Can I Help Alleviate His Stress?

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Wastinglight

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Advice from any sufferers (or supporters!) much appreciated.

My guy is going in for surgery next week. He said he's stressing about it - it's taken him a long time to work up to making this appointment. He has asked me to pick him up from the hospital and stay with him overnight afterwards (doctor's orders that someone stays with him).

I've never been asked to stay overnight at his place before. He has difficulty managing his symptoms, so we don't end up spending that much time alone together. I am one of very few people he allows to come to his house. I am worried that he might end up feeling so stressed about me staying over, that he decides that he's better off finding his own way home and ends up being alone after the procedure. I hope I'm wrong about this, but in my mind it's a possibility.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I might be able to reduce the likelihood that he will push me away at a time when it's important that he has someone around? Has anyone else been in a similar situation (ie having a medical procedure that has caused them a lot of stress), and how did you cope in the lead up and afterwards? Thanks so much.
 
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When people have PTSD they may develop 'severe' trust issues. Sometimes they may act like they are pushing others (especially the ones they love and hold dearly) away, but the reality is that they are testing you. They'll walk away just to see who cares enough, who's strong enough, to follow them. Be very very patient with him and show kindness but stay strong and assertive, stand your ground. Disconnect your emotions if you can and let your intuition guide you when he tries to push you away. I'll pray for the both of you :)
 
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Sometimes they may act like they are pushing others (especially the ones they love and hold dearly) away, but the reality is that they are testing you.

I agree, that when those with a history of trauma detach from another, so to speak., it is often to run the tests you refer to.

But speaking from personal experience, as well as similar experiences shared with me by others with the diagnosis...sometimes it's a legitimate need...to just be alone...to not be forced to communicate, etc etc...and this can come out of nowhere, and last for any period of time...without warning or even any real idea, at the time, when
I will feel capable again of relating to any other, even a loved one. And at such times, I can honestly say that it's better for all concerned, that I do so, immediately. Not that violence is a factor, at all. I've never been violent, whatsoever...but irreparable damage can be done to relationships and others feelings, very easily, when I am in such an "altered state", which I equate with being sent into fight/flight by something...anything, it doesn't even have to be material, or an actual circumstance, or what anyone would consider a "real reason"...my mind just happened to alight on a particular traumatic thought...sounds in the environment remind me of something, etc.

And not only is that obviously a lot to expect from any partner...to be able to take such things in stride, and not personalize them, resent them, attempt to solve them, not see them as some kind of catastrophe and fly off the handle over it, not reassess their opinion of me to that of someone who is "weak", or otherwise inadequate, or handicapped.

One of the most difficult things to explain to a partner...who is obviously concerned, and just wants to do whatever he or she can to help...is that the best way they can help is by leaving you alone, for a while. It just doesn't compute for the average person. It's natural for the loved one to exclaim things such as "but what did I do? I understand why you feel that way about the rest of the world...but why me, too? Doesn't that mean that you don't really love me, if you don't think you can trust me, and don't want me around to help you? All I want to do is help you!"

Needless to say...such an ordeal is not exactly helpful (tongue in cheek)...we're essentially saying (some, but not all of the time)...look, I'm having difficulty maintaining, because of my stress level...and because of my symptoms,
I have a lot more difficulty being overwhelmed by stress at times, often for no real reason at all...and at these times, I just need to be somewhere quiet, and without stimuli, or anybody else I have to think about, at all...because that's stress to, even though you don't think of it that way...and I just need to totally decompress, and need to be alone to do that."

And it's not a non PTSD diagnosed person's responsibility to know everything about the disorder, etc...so he or she is understandably confused...but usually, at these times...we're even too stressed to really be able to communicate very well at all...so we don't tell you. And you just stay confused, and hurt...even moreso, because no real explanation has been forthcoming, about the apparent abandonment.

But I've had to end more than one relationship simply because of this factor. I thought I was ready. I hoped I was ready. But I wasn't ready. And I just had to admit that to myself. Relationships open us up to our feelings...and while it would be nice if only the positive ones came out, as a result....but the fact is, that it doesn't work that way. They come attached with all of the trauma related terrible feelings we've been stuffing and running away from...not for all, but many of us...and I think, those sufferring from "Complex PTSD", especially.
Complex PTSD is a working term now frequently used to identify those whose main symptoms arise from prolonged early childhood abuse, usually in their family of origin...which means that they likely don't have the best associations as far as relationships go, in the first place. The original template for a relationship with a
"loved one" in the parent or parents...often resulted in pain and disappointment and betrayal. And when these are the first bricks laid in childhood...even an adult's conscious intellectual awareness that the same does not apply necessarily to this new, different loved one...can't magically remove a lifetime of deeply rooted expectations, however much we might wish that the magic of love worked in that way.

The best way to support your PTSD diagnosee is to read books on the subject, first of all. And then, to continue to keep in mind that, just because this individual does not have a cast on a limb, or a bandage on the head...that they are no less suffering from a physical ailment, just as physical as any kidney stone or wound. This is the way neurophysiology is affected by extreme stress, and provisions must be made for it to heal, and it can only improve in time...not overnight. And that just as you wouldn't think of dismissing someone with a broken leg, or a kidney stone, for being weak or somehow at fault, or able to magically heal himself instantly...neither can one suffering from PTSD or another related stress disorder.

Glad you've sought help through the forum, and your diagnosee is lucky to have you.

In my opinion, possibly the best way to avoid causing undue stress to your loved one, is to mention early on that you've been looking into PTSD, and understand if he or she needs some time out, to be alone, etc...so not to feel bad about saying so, if they need it. That's just another source of stress, by the way...at least for me...knowing that that is a distinct possibility...that I will need time alone...but then, when attempting to explain why...my attempts will fall on deaf ears, and a fight or simply a sense of rejection by the other party, will result. Often, I've been afraid to tell another this, for fear of losing them, and losing their trust and goodwill...and for good reason, as that's exactly what's happened in the past, many times. It's very difficult for the average person to understand how "I need you to leave now, and to have some time away from you"...could possibly not be a rejection, or message regarding your feelings towards him or her. So likely...he or she has had similar kinds of stressful thoughts, as well...and just being upfront about the fact that you understand, will in itself, reduce a great deal of stress, in my opinion.
 
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Most medical procedures are very stressful for me and usually make my symptoms a lot worse. I have been in many situations where I wanted to be alone but wasn't supposed to be due to medical reasons.
I usually like the practical help as long as it doesn't make me feel like I can't do anything on my own. When I get too stressed I tell the person staying with me to go into another room. That way he/she is giving me some space without putting me in danger. What I really hate is when people think that this would be a great time to talk about my trauma! Thanks but I'm already stressed enough right now.
I find it very irritating when a person starts to constantly hover over me because he/she is worried.
But generally, even if I'm not able to show it in that moment, it's nice to know that there are people who care about me and are interested in my health!
I don't know if you have already done this or if you think he wouldn't react well but have you asked HIM what you could or shouldn't do?
I hope all goes well!
Nikki
 
I'd say whatever you're doing is obviously working... Since he's willing to vulnerable out in front of you. lol. Just expect a bit of embarrassed distance afterward.

Similarly... We all have our different quirks. As you've seen above, and in other places where we give 180 degree advice on what we each individually like. Practical help, vs don't touch my stuff... Companionship vs quiet... Planning in detail vs winging it. I'd say, best thing would be to thrash out a basic plan with you beau. Or wing it, of plans stress him out, in the same way you've been winging it to the point where he trusts you enough to have you overnight.
 
Oh thank you everyone - so much! Really feeling the love here today!

Yes, I do struggle daily with his continuing distance. We have talked about it, and while my head understands (sort of), my heart hurts so much. I think it's not so much that he's testing me (although that could be part of it), rather that he wants to be able to spend more time with me, but his symptoms flare up. Sounds like I'm a stressor in his life, but we are both hanging in there. We are both in therapy (me for GAD), so I hope in time things will improve.

I should be seeing him on the weekend, so I will have a chat with him about arrangements then. I don't want to make too big a deal about it though, in case it raises his stress levels further.

Otherwise, I'm trying to prepare for any eventuality. I guess if he ends up saying he doesn't want me to stay with him, then I will just say that I will be 'on call' if anything goes wrong and he needs me to take him back to the hospital. I plan on asking him beforehand if he needs me to bring any groceries or whatever when I pick him up, otherwise I will just be 'there' in a non-intrusive kind of way... Fingers crossed it all happens with the minimum of stress for us both.

Thanks again lovely people! You are all so wonderful!

(((((myptsd people)))))
 
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@spookedlife, I would like to thank you for your post. Thank you for taking the time to explain things in such detail. I have read it through several times now, and I found it incredibly insightful. I am quite certain, from his behaviour, that he is experiencing something very similar to what you describe. He has never ever been unkind to me, even when he's struggling, and I know he's trying his hardest, so that helps me deal. The more I can try and remind myself of what it's like for him, the better I can cope with my own insecurities and fears. And the less I focus on those things, the more time I have to focus on proper self-care - and being there for him.

I have invested in a few books, which I'm working my way through, including Trauma and Recovery, The Haunted Self, The Body Remembers, The PTSD Relationship. Do you have any others to recommend?

Thanks again for your invaluable perspectives, all of you.
 
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