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When Does The Anger Get Better?

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I'm working through family related childhood trauma. I keep having "attacks" of anger that feel so much like panic attacks. I'm really discouraged and losing sight of the goal. I'm questioning everything about therapy for no reason at all. I'm a jumbled up mess. I want this to get better faster!

I've been learning to ride the waves of anger better and better but this is getting so hard. I want o go back to the "easier" way of self injuring to make all the feelings go away - but I won't. I feel like this will never really get better.

Maybe I needed a moment to vent - or someone to set me straight. I hate PTSD. I hate the anger! I hate it all!
 
Maybe I needed a moment to vent


Keep venting...:spitdummy: :clown: Why not? Anger is fear based. It a signal to let us know a change needs to occur (sometimes within us). Acceptance (different then approval), forgiveness of self (and/or others), and considering what is the root of the fear allows us to consider what we need to change to quiet some of the anger.

Furthermore, if I read this right, you chose "not" to do the quick fix of self harm in the moment. Bound to bubble up more emotions to the surface as you are being courageous and changing. :hug: So if venting stops the self harm...keep on venting and be gentle to yourself.:tup:
 
I seriously could have written this post. I wish I had good advice. I hope others will post answers because I want to know as well. It has been a while since I self harmed and I don't want to start over in my mind so I am currently running through my list of coping skills but I am not having much success.

I do know I always feel proud when I triumph over that and feel so much better if I can cope without self harming. That is what I am holding onto tonight.
 
Sometimes I just let myself feel the anger. Sometimes it does help me to remember that I never wanted any of this, I never chose the abuse and that I do hate this lifestyle. I try not to let it totally overwhelm me, which can be very hard. But I don't necessarily think anger has to be a bad thing. Sometimes you have to turn it into a positive. If you turn your anger into a thought like "I hate the person who caused me to get ptsd, but I will get better and prove to the world that I am stronger than this" or something like that. It can be really hard, but I personally don't think "letting it go" or "forgiving" is easy or even worthwhile. Don't let it be the focus of your life, let it turn you into an advocate for mental health and things like that. That's what I try to do at least. The one thing my therapist always reminds me is "what happened to you really is terrible, but try to remember that because of it you are getting stronger and you have learned to be more empathetic to others". My therapist reminds me to try and look at how it's made me into a better person, and how it's taught me a lot about bad people as well.
 
In my experience the anger never gets better. But, we can learn to deal with it more effectively.

Giving in to anger - letting yourself lose control by screaming, violence, self-harm etc. - exacerbates the problem. It has now been scientifically proven that venting simply strengthens the "anger pathways" of the brain and leads to you becoming a more angry person.

That said, us PTSD-types often *can't* control it. I've had anger issues all my life, and PTSD makes it worse.

Meditation and breathing exercises were the only things that helped me. However, meditation is very, very difficult to do, for me anyway.
 
Giving in to anger - letting yourself lose control by screaming, violence, self-harm etc. - exacerbates the problem


Hi somerandomguy! I do not think that I have had the pleasure of meeting you before, so a heartfelt "Howdy" is offered!

I offer a slight variable in the construct of anger that I learned in some seminars. A while ago there were several shooting episodes on campuses/ schools across the USA. In response, a flurry of lessons were offered to educate staff as well as students in our area. It was a driven belief at that time, that the tragedies of loosing life may be abated with care as well as education.

Anger is an secondary emotion. How we choose to act upon it is a choice. We can be proactive instead of reactive.

Here are more things to know about anger:

1. It is a powerful survival tool
2. It is a response to pain (physical or psychological)
3. It is a source of energy
4. It is a secondary emotion
5. When we are angry, the brain downshifts to a lower evolutionary level
6. Prolonged anger is unhealthy
7. Repressed anger is also unhealthy
http://eqi.org/anger.htm

I offer this in full respect of your views, but wanted to share that anger does have a purpose for our survival. As well, I have had to learn to that it is natural as well as healthy to have a full array of feelings. But again, acting out on any emotion without forethought is in my opinion at times unwise.
*Perhaps we are saying the same thing in different ways?
 
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I don't know if the anger ever "gets better." Over time it has faded into the background and doesn't intrude any more, for me. It's taken decades to get there, though. I also tend to be a more rational and less emotional person so YMMV.

I read somewhere a long time ago that the only "true" anger is "righteous anger" which is defined as a natural reaction to a moral wrong (e.g., what you feel when you see someone kick a puppy). All other anger is a secondary emotion: a reaction to some other emotion.

I think anger towards someone for abusing or assaulting you is righteous anger and should be allowed to follow its natural course and be expressed.
 
Thank you, Justmehere for your post. I think your clarity on this is important. I agree with Karen12 that when people say "anger" they may be speaking of subtly different things and that for some, there is something very honest about the anger. And when a particular anger has been bottled up for decades, the way it reveals itself and manifests itself to the feeler is different than "fresh, new anger," a feeling in response to a new issue or to becoming angry at things that do not merit such a reaction.

Anger is something that I carried my whole life. I hid it from myself, but everyone else could see it. People said, "you are angry" and I was baffled. I was sure I had hidden it so well that I could not access it. My first T. said he could see it precisely in that I disavowed any anger. I am still a bit mystified at how I was in denial. This makes me aware I could still be in denial of things obvious to anyone but me.

First of all, for someone abused and betrayed so brutally by her own father and his friend and so left out in the cold by a mother incapable of love, I can see how I could not accept my own feelings or even feel them accurately. I still cannot, not really. It still "feels," often, almost like it all happened to "someone else." I have great difficulty still feeling like a whole person. I feel like I'm a "collection" and not "one." It is not always possible, especially when under stress, to avoid dissociation or depersonalization for me.

I disagree that one should never vent anger for fear it will increase based on one study, even a good long one. That study was conducted on anger as a monolith and does not look into the case of trauma. I am traumatized, but I am held to the same laws of nature. Therefore, now, in a general way, I do not vent my day to day anger because the study is correct about that. It only makes it increase. However, of the anger I have carried for so long, I had to vent it for over two years just to come to accept it. Therefore, the trauma is not "normal" and cannot be healed as if it were non-traumatic. I do not speak of "normal" anger, the day-to-day stuff. That stuff cannot cause anyone to have to self-harm, dissociate, or have flashbacks. I am talking about the kind of anger that is overwhelming and in response to overwhelming, disturbing events that individuals and society as a whole cannot handle. I'm talking about the kind of anger that haunted me for 30 years and that I didn't dare acknowledge. I don't know how it being labeled as "secondary" is helpful. So I won't get into that. I may have to find out what that is meant to mean or to recommend. So far, nothing has come to light down that path.

Every time I felt the anger come over me, unexpectedly, I also felt afraid of it. It felt foreign to me, and I distrusted it. These anger attacks led to all the other CPTSD symptoms. I usually asked my husband to take the children for a while. I suffered all kinds of symptomology, such as shaking uncontrollably, feeling very hot or cold, heart pounding, paralysis, sobbing, zoning out, feeling unreal, and having flashbacks. I had to resist a strong urge to destroy those responsible and myself, to end the misery. I would never do that, but I could think about it. And this caused me more suffering. It was, in short, a personal hell. And I never lost my nerve or self-control. I never hurt myself or anyone. I recalled poems and took my meds, and took a bath, and talked about this with my carer, journaled, and prayed. It felt obvious to me that I had put off dealing with this stuff and it had to be dealt with now.

Finally, after years of these "attacks," and my working on them, I was driving to work when I saw one of my abusers walking down the street, and my anger surfaced to my attention. My hand began to shake. I felt for myself, instead of judgement, pity. I turned my response to this around and instead "validated" my own anger. For a single moment I saw myself as I would see a stranger, and I felt sympathy for myself. I felt anyone in my position would be this angry. I stopped running away from it and turned toward it and saw a little girl's righteous anger. I saw that GOOD PEOPLE get angry when they are VIOLATED in evil ways and JUSTICE was never served in any fashion. I was RIGHT to be angry then and now. As soon as that hurdle was passed, the issue of forgiveness or letting go the irrational parts of my judgment against by abusers is now the new task. This frees up space inside me and lets me feel a lot better about myself and others. My PTSD feels better, too. But it's not gone.

As soon as I validated (not by choice, it just "happened." I was "ready.") the anger that I had left for another day to be validated, these attacks seemed to have melted. Sometimes, I still feel anger when reminded of my abusers, but when I feel the anger, I know that I was right to feel it, and that I have begun working on forgiving them. I am at home with it. It's integrated into my value system and mind, and it doesn't bother me so much. I don't react to things like I used to. I can feel anger and not feel bowled over or made sick about it. It doesn't trigger flashbacks anymore or panic.

This process took about 2.75 years of working on it, with some therapy, some work on my own, and my full attention. I am still fine tuning this process.

Therefore, in my experience, saying anger is a "secondary emotion" is a way of continuing to explain it away. It is probably correct in many cases of anger. It may technically be correct in all cases of unresolved anger. Whatever the case, I didn't find that concept healing in any way. Rather I feel that in general, it is correct and a good policy to not "give in to anger" or to feed it by giving it so much attention. But, whatever the feeling or emotion, the healing must follow the same path as the injury.

In my case, the repression of the emotion was the primary issue. For others, the over-focusing on the feeling is more the problem. It depends on the person; whatever happened in the reaction to the trauma is repeated. If repression/dissociation occurred, then one must go against the displacement and head right into the storm to connect with it. If the person accepted the feeling but cannot move out of it, then they need to walk away from the wreckage and learn to be able to see it in another way. Either way, the person must work on trusting herself or himself to the point of acceptance of their own responsibility and ability to control and work with their own feelings. Only parts of us that we have not accepted pester us until we do.
 
Hi somerandomguy! I do not think that I have had the pleasure of meeting you before, so a heartfelt "Howdy" is offered!

Hi. I recently came back after a four-year hiatus. That should give everyone an idea of how long it takes to "get over" PTSD ... i.e. never.

I offer this in full respect of your views, but wanted to share that anger does have a purpose for our survival. As well, I have had to learn to that it is natural as well as healthy to have a full array of feelings.

Maybe so. My grandfather, as far as I can tell, was never angry. Perhaps he had a hidden side but my mother also says that she saw him angry only once. I don't see any problem with not ever being angry. That's not what we're discussing, however, as no one who posts here will ever have this experience.

But again, acting out on any emotion without forethought is in my opinion at times unwise.
*Perhaps we are saying the same thing in different ways?

As meditation and breathing exercises are the main ways of promoting mindfulness, it seems that we're saying the same thing. Thanks for adding the details I skipped.
 
Reading this post because I've had bouts of anger which is totally out of character for me. I'm usually on edge when they happen. One particular episode, I was pretty furious but was disciplined enough NOT to act on it. (If there's anything I've learned, emotions don't have to dictate my behavior. I can acknowledge them and let them pass) Afterwards, I was able to process why it made me so furious. Now, I have a plan to deal with it politely and with honor if it happens again.
 
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