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Relationship Answers That No One Can Give

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Casey_03

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I felt compelled to create this thread after seeing so so so many supporters posting recently asking about isolation. It seems like many supporters who are new to PTSD are asking the same things: how long does isolation last? How should I treat him/her during isolation? In other cases, supporters don't even know for a fact that what their partner is going through is isolation, but they seem to want us to tell them that it definitely is to assuage their concerns and make things easier.

There is something very troubling to me about these questions, even though I know the people asking only have good intentions. To me, it often sounds as if many supporters think everyone with PTSD is the same, like they are all lumped into one category of "PTSD" and they have no individual personality of their own. Sometimes it even seems like supporters choose to invalidate real issues and problems by just attributing things to "isolation." Probably just because it is easier for them to deal with it that way rather than confronting the real issues .... But if someone with PTSD asks for space or needs time to think, citing certain issues, that shouldn't just be blamed on isolation. "Oh, he has been distant recently and said he needs some time to himself -- it's probably just isolation, right?" No, he is allowed to have actual concerns in his life that he needs to think about, just like any other person, and just because he has PTSD doesn't mean you can shrug everything off as isolation.

Also, no one on here can say how long a sufferer will need to be away when he does go into isolation. There is no special formula for this. Some people leave for weeks, some for years, and some never come back. And again, if they go away, it's not always "isolation." There are myriad things that could be going on and just because isolation is the easiest explanation, that doesn't mean it's the right one.

It's a little bit like self-diagnosis -- it's just not a good idea. I understand it is difficult and confusing and when someone you love gets distant or disappears, all you want is an explanation for their behavior. But it can be dangerous to try to predict their behavior or impose certain ideas onto them, and in my opinion, it only hinders future communication with them and creates more setbacks in the relationship. I have had many relationships go down the drain because of this behavior, and when I've had partners in the past act this way, it often pushed me away more and I found it insulting. On the flip side of the coin, the sufferer should be responsible for providing some sort of explanation for his/her behavior -- they certainly should not get away with disappearing with no explanation. Ok. End of rant. I don't mean to cause anyone offense with this post, and I don't have anyone in particular in mind. I just noticed probably about a dozen threads with almost identical questions by supporters recently, and I felt like sharing the point of view of a sufferer.
 
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I agree! I have read a few supporter posts and thought it's all just terribly misleading, the whole label of ptsd. Some of the posts just describe bad or abusive relationships that should not be happening!
The bottom line in any relationship is communication and understanding. If that's not there on both sides it's never going to work - ptsd or no!
I often needed time alone before I had ptsd. I still do now. If I treated someone badly or shut them out it would mean the same as it did before I had ptsd.
Unless I was terribly triggered - and then it would be up to me to explain!
It's crazy. No one is completely normal, let's face it!
 
Casey_03 thanks so much for posting. I think you raise some extremely valid points. For my part posting regarding isolation is in a way trying to make sense of things and just getting out of my system what I can't say to my guy right now. Plus it can be a very lonely place as a supporter (a very new one at that) and it brings a strange sense of comfort that you're sadly not alone in your experience. Your post has been very insightful and I thank you for that.

I also know no matter how much I read and try to educate myself about PTSD I will never understand what it is like and what goes on in his head because I have not experienced what he has.

However, I have my eyes open regarding behaviour. I think with isolation although every single sufferer and supporter is different there is commonality with how people feel. What I won't do is excuse every behaviour as being PTSD related and I see a lot of posts on here where I can see how much the supporter adores their sufferer but is potentially putting up with shocking behaviour because PTSD may or may not be the root cause...awful to say but maybe some people find it easy to behave badly with the excuse they have PTSD (or not I suspect in some cases) and all will be forgiven. I have challenged previously if I think something is actually just shabby behaviour. For my part while I firmly believe my guy is currently in isolation and he is seeking help the best and healthiest thing for both of us is for me to remain focused on my life right now, he's still firmly in my thoughts, and see where the road might lead.
 
What I won't do is excuse every behaviour as being PTSD related and I see a lot of posts on here where I can see how much the supporter adores their sufferer but is potentially putting up with shocking behaviour because PTSD may or may not be the root cause...awful to say but maybe some people find it easy to behave badly with the excuse they have PTSD (or not I suspect in some cases) and all will be forgiven.
Exactly! People get blinded by the PTSD and start to attribute everything to it, when in reality this is very harmful to the relationship ... I don't think I have followed your posts, but it sounds like you have a good attitude about things and are viewing the situation in the healthiest way possible.
 
Don't get me wrong I'm definitely up and down with the whole thing, struggling with missing him and not knowing what's going on - definitely had a blip yesterday - but having been in an abusive (non PTSD) relationship I can recognise signs better of unhealthy and abusive behaviour and will not go down that path again.
 
Thank you so much @Casey_03 for breaking down all of this and confirming kind of what I've felt as well. Especially about how some sufferers and supporters might be using PTSD as a crutch to dismiss other issues and that there are not set rules to how a person can react.

My vet has been distant for almost a month now and I'm now not sure if it's isolation or not even though I thought it was initially because he stated "his mind wasn't where it needed to be". I'm also glad you @jojo88 mentioned that communicating is important - PTSD or not - because that has been my main issue with our relationship. Along with how he withdrew right after I mentioned we needed better communication (he wasn't isolating and we "seemed" to be in a good place).

But like @Bubbles215 I'm focusing on self love, my own mental health and evaluating if I should step away not for the ptsd but because of the complete lack of communication (he messaged me the first time in weeks Wednsday to say "you're a good woman and deserve someone better than me" so I'm just at a loss of what to do at this point). Like others have said on this forum, you can have a healthy relationship but you have to set boundaries and have communication.

Thank you all for commenting on this thread.
 
I have PTSD and I really try to keep my hubby in the loop re what's going on with me. I hate it sometimes, because I know it brings him down, but he deserves to know. And when I feel better I try to make it up to him. Even on my bad days, though, I can commisserate with whatever challenges he's going through. PTSD is not an excuse to fall away from your relationship responsibilities. Love is stronger than that.
 
I have PTSD and I really try to keep my hubby in the loop re what's going on with me...PTSD is not an excuse to fall away from your relationship responsibilities. Love is stronger than that.
Thanks for this. Sometimes I feel completely selfish as a supporter for feeling like the responsibilities of the relationship shouldn't be place completely on me.
 
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@Chelle They definitely shouldn't be placed all on you. The rules might be different when PTSD is involved, but there are still rules. It's just wrong on so many levels to think PTSD sufferers should get away with more because they are suffering ... and it only enables crappy behavior and keeps them from dealing with things properly.
 
They definitely shouldn't be placed all on you, Chelle. You deserve him to work as hard as he can on the relationship. I know my husband cuts me some slack, especially in shopping, which is often very hard for me to do. But the responsibilities for keeping up the relationship should be on both people.
 
Thank you all for your responses and thoughts/stories on the subject. I was so glad when this thread was created because I wasn't sure if that was common or not even though I realized that everyone had their own reactions to suffering with ptsd. I am now at the point that I think he's maybe not healthy enough for a relationship at all and I hate that every time I get to a point of thinking "this isn't healthy, I need to just step away", he seems to pop up.

I visit this forum, read books and articles, offered to go to couple's therapy and give space when needed but it's hard to navigate... The communication just isn't there even after I expressed how important it was after his last isolation (things like sending a quick "I'm alive" when he's going to disappear for a month). There are other things like never have been to his place so when he distance himself I have no idea where he is (we've dated for 6-7 mths), that now reflecting back, I dismissed as just his ptsd (thanks for pointing out the flaw in that thinking @Casey_03 ).

Maybe this is a situation that I need to remove myself from especially when it very well could not be his ptsd and just a toxic relationship. Thank you @Casey_03 @hodge and @Sweetpea76 I'll see if he contacts me soon.
 
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