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Childhood Acknowledging Your Parents Emotional Neglect While Managing Your Inner Critic With Your Own Kids.

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I understand that they are angry but they are too angry to talk now, and be open to talking about it later (which I am).

My only thought is that you might at some point add that your tolerance for anger is pretty low, and other people's is often higher. So they may be able to talk to others when they are angry to a degree that you can't handle. I think this is a very valuable lesson. People are different in their ability to handle things, and we need to be able to recognize and adapt to that.

My parents are "ruthlessly normal." And yes, everything is always fine. And it took me... until I was in my late twenties to even think my mom might have something wrong with her. And until I was forty to figure out that my parents are seriously screwed up, very high functioning alcoholics. They are just that good at it.
 
Yes @Eleanor you are right, my tolerance for anger is extremely low and it is certainly worth pointing this difference out to my kids.

I'm 40ish and I'm only just seeing the depth of passive aggressiveness that I was raised in.

My mother currently has cancer and I am very involved with her treatment. As a result I am spending a lot of time with my parents. Watching how my mother treats my father is really difficult. It's very subtle (you have to be there to "get it") but it's horrible.

I'm trying to hold on to the positive that spending time seeing my parents in this way while having therapy for my Csa is difficult but an opportunity to be able to see the patterns and interactions that were also present in my childhood.
 
Watching how my mother treats my father is really difficult. It's very subtle (you have to be there to "get it") but it's horrible.
Sorry you are dealing with this too. My mom is just awful to my dad. Granted, he is kind of annoying, but she is just... awful. I never noticed until several years ago. "The water you swim in" is hard to see... She doesn't really do it so much around other people.

I know what you mean about the opportunity to see patterns and interactions... it is tough to do tho. You are a tough cookie to hang in there with/for them.
 
I really appreciate the response joeylittle gave regarding intent. This could not be truer.

I feel, as maybe you do too, that I have learned a lot from reflecting on my childhood. There are certain things my parents did, that I would never do. I cringe every time I catch myself sounding or acting just like one of my parents. I try to be conscious of it and remind myself that my kids are already better off than I was at their age and that I am doing things differently. Maybe attempting to reconcile all that you are doing right, better, or different could help slow the critical spiral.

Be positive! Not one of us is a perfect parent but I think if we really are trying to do our best, with what we know, we should express that to our kids. I realize not everyone has a great parenting record or even communicates well with their kids. Sometimes I think just saying it to our children could help open the door to resolving insecurities or even open our eyes to how detrimental our actions have been. Maybe if we were to say, "I realize now that wasn't the best choice", or "I didn't know what I did would have such an effect on you", it would open the door to get our kids perspective and then we would know if we were being parents enough for them.
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My boys are grown now but I raised them with honesty and gave them all my Love and attention. I never blamed them for my illness or made them feel responsible for me but they understood my limitations.

I certainly wasn't the parent that I wished I could have been but our relationship is strong and they are well adjusted and happy in their lives.
 
Reading all this really does put my mind at ease. Not just to know that my fears are common and validated, but also it gives me hope. It makes me believe that neither I or my kids are damaged beyond repair. My kids are 2 and 6 so I used to think if maybe I can just fix it before they notice. But now I am accepting that my battle is far from over and that it will always be a part of me.

Wow I never thought of it like that before....when I was a child I was raised one way and now that I know it was wrong I try to do it the right way. So now neither feels right. and that's why I struggle in every parenting decision (not knowing If that was the best way to handle it) because I honestly don't know I too play by ear....and worry underneath. But I will starting now trust my instincts. It was my instincts that got me out of the abuse in the first place. Thank you. Everyone here plays an important role. I know one day soon I can pass it on.
 
I do the same thing @ghotiff with my now 5 year old son. What helps me when I do something that can be close to what my mom did to me, is remembering I'm doing my best to heal and recover from what I went through to be a better mother. She never did anything to truly improve herself. I also try to remember, though we can convince ourselves it's not enough, that when I'm "bad" I'm not nearly as bad as she was, and I recover from it sooner so that the damage isn't as severe as when she would do it.

Totally understand the "perfection" thing. I had to do everything perfectly as a child, or I wasn't allowed to do it because I wasn't good enough. It's something I struggle with not doing with my son, and even other people in my life. For example, I remember hanging clothes on the line once to dry, and as a child took my sweet ass time. She got mad that I wasn't doing it quickly enough, and said "forget it, I'LL do it". Growing up I never had chores because I never did anything "right", then she'd complain that I never did anything around the house... We did have a family therapy session once with her therapist, and when I told her therapist a couple of things, the therapist berated my mother. But my mother still didn't learn. So with my son, he's only 5 so there isn't much chore wise he's big enough to do, or coordinated enough to do yet. lol. But I have him fold all the laundry. And kids, at this age, want to gain their parents approval. So he does do a pretty great job for a 5 yr old. (And I hate folding laundry, so it's a win-win, lol). He even puts all the clothes away where they belong when he's done. But still, none of it's really perfect. But I praise him for it regardless because at least he's doing it, and doing his best with it, that's all that matters. Well, my mom came over to take him for a night, and went through his clothes to get stuff to bring. She commented "wow, these were folded horribly"(or something along those lines). I got so mad with her. I yelled at her that Liam is 5, and does his best, and despite them not being "perfect", he does a damn good job. Then she just gets embarrassed and flustered says something like "I wasn't saying that, -laughs-, I was just saying they're not very good, calm down".

None of us is "perfect", but as long as we're trying to do our best by our kids, that's what counts. And I'm pretty sure just the fact that we're all on here getting the help we need is a sign that we're better than our parents. Because I know personally, mine wouldn't do this, or not to get help with themselves, they'd do it to find help in "handling" me. I'd say not to beat yourself up, but I know how hard that is to not do that, but try not to. And like BlueOrange said, try to focus on what you ARE doing right to be a better parent than your own.
 
I really try and focus on what I can do to be a better parent than my parents. I talk a lot with my son about things we can do together that helps us have a better relationship and encourage him to talk with me if he feels that there is an issue. Trust me, he does! Things like that let me know that I am doing ok because no way could I have ever done that with my parents. There isn't room for the inner critic and negative thinking styles with your kids. It keeps all the good stuff from being at the forefront. Being present in their life is a wonderful thing and it sounds like you have that covered.
 
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