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Sexual Assault Am I Nuts To Consider The Nurses Rapists

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Trauma is trauma. It is really funny how humans work. One person can experience something that is extremely traumatizing to them, and others experiencing the same thing are not bothered at all by it.
We try to not compare trauma for this reason. Instead we empathize and try to help one another through the pain they are suffering now.
To the OP this was a very traumatizing event. She asked if it was rape, and many of us have answered, and regardless of our answer she is still traumatized. And to her I will say we understand the pain of being traumatized.
 
No it wasn't offensive to me as a nurse. The op asked if it were nuts to consider these nurses rapists. I...

Again I'm sorry if I've offended anyone I just wanted others prospective because I was unsure how I felt. that is why I started this thread because I was unsure about the way I felt about it I did not start this thread to offend or anger anyone. Again I am sorry if I offended anyone
 
I've been reading this thread with interest and some anxiety. Like you @Tigergirl1217 I have experienced medical procedures on my genitals, lots of it, too much to describe, two or three surgeries each year, throughout my childhood, starting age 3 and stopping when I was 16.

So I can relate to your experience, although I am male. Based on my own experiences and the consequences of those childhood experiences, I don't think you are nuts to ask the question or feel as you do.

In the late 1970s, when I was about 14 years old, I'd just had yet another operation on my penis, this time at a different hospital that specialised in reconstructive surgery and skin grafts (plastic surgery in those days). During previous operations, each day after surgery a nurse would wash the wound (to try prevent infection I guess), It was always very, very painful, swollen, black and blue and covered in blood. On this occasion having finished cleansing it the nurse, produced an aerosol can, which contained a freezing spray and told me she had to spray me to stop an erection. She didn't explain why. After about 30 seconds I started screaming as the spray burned my skin. I forcibly pushed her away, but she showed no sign of understanding, compassion or remorse. It seemed to me that she enjoyed doing it. I hadn't been treated by this nurse before. Each day for the remaining two weeks in hospital I endured the same treatment, although I asked them not to spray me for so long. I am guessing they were concerned that an erection would damage the skin grafts, but they never explained that or gave me the option to treat myself if I needed to.

I have never recovered from having to lay there, naked, submitting to what I found to be a massively humiliating and painful experience.

During another spell in hospital a 'medical person' took photographs and then masturbated me. He said they needed to check if I had normal sexual function. I lay there and allowed him to do it. I was given no warning, my parents never mentioned it and I never told them.

Did these people set out to make me feel humiliated, to take away any essence of control I had over the most private part of my body? I really don't know the answer. I have been troubled all my adult life by questions about these and the medical experiences I endured. Was it really necessary, was it sadistic, was it abuse? I'll never know.

What I have come to understand over recent years is that as a child these experiences were traumatising, and for me that is what really matters. These experiences left me with an array of 'issues' and coping strategies that are very self damaging, physically and emotionally, and I battle with them every day.

I used to compare my traumas with others and think mine are nowhere near as bad, and not bad enough enough to justify my behaviours and problems, so I blamed myself. I still feel that way to some degree, but less so these days.

Sorry this is a bit rambling - I still feel awkward writing about it, but it's progress. Believing that I suffered a traumatising experience has been a start. I hope it's a start for you too.

Mit
 
I'm sorry if I've offended anyone I just wanted others prospective because I was unsure how I felt.
I'd be really surprised if anyone was actually offended by your question. The best thing to do when you want to know something, often, is to ask. I think what you have is a difference in opinions on the answer to your question. OR, maybe, different takes, by all of us, on each other's answers to your question.

I don't think anyone here doubts that that was traumatic. And, you can consider those nurses to be anything you want to, no one can make that choice but you. Legally, it wasn't rape. The motivation of the perpetrators was most likely nothing like that of the typical rapist. (But, we have no way of knowing what their motivation was, without somehow asking them for their perspective.) You have to decide for yourself how you want to look at it. Personally, I'd say go with what's the most useful for your long term recovery. (We have a rather large and vocal contingent of folks here who tend to vote for "as accurately as possible" when trying to answer this kind of question. Including me! LOL)

Don't let this put you off from asking more questions. It's fairly safe. :tup:
 
Hello @Mit I read your response and it makes crawl my toes. I've also blamed myself for finding my experience traumatic. My mom said oh please your brother had a feeding tube in and he was in pain, more painful than yours. Also when I wrote a disturbing story about my experience and the counsler highly recommend a professional look into it. You know what my mom does she says we don't have to waste time and money we can solve this ourselves. She would LIMIT time of to talk about and she kept saying get over it. Two months later I've been locked up in the mental hospital. I told them about everything except the medical trauma because I took my family word for it. Soon I tell my psychiatrist and soon he diagnosed me with ptsd. I had to suffer ten years before a diagnosis. Soon after that I yelled at her and expressed all my anger and say you and (let's call my brother "boy") boy are responsible then she says its your fault and does not even acknowledge that she is responsible.
 
... you can consider those nurses to be anything you want to, no one can make that choice but you. Legally, it wasn't rape. The motivation of the perpetrators was most likely nothing like that of the typical rapist. (But, we have no way of knowing what their motivation was, without somehow asking them for their perspective.) You have to decide for yourself how you want to look at it. Personally, I'd say go with what's the most useful for your long term recovery. (We have a rather large and vocal contingent of folks here who tend to vote for "as accurately as possible" when trying to answer this kind of question...)

:tup::tup::tup: Exactly Scout... Wish I'd said that. It was pounded into my brain via various mentors and my shrink about keeping things "right sized" and also to question and be willing to consider other perceptions instead of the default one ... the one that was driving the stress/anger/anxiety. Of course I am free to keep it if I wished, but ultimately to cling in many cases to my childhood perception, I found I had to be prepared to accept the consequences. I had a "right" to justified anger... but in the longer term for my own recovery it was not beneficial on examination. Conflating a trauma to something that it's clearly not... well that bothers me. Clearly it is a medical trauma and conflating it to the level of rape is not in line, with what I was taught about recovery.

I think though the opening poster is shifting her anger away from the parent and projecting it onto the nurses... but that would just be a guess. Easier to maintain justified anger when someone is not there to either validate or offer an opinion. On the re-read it is clear that her mother does not have the same perspective... and that she hasn't handled it well either by being unsupportive.
 
@The Albatross , what you're talking about is the most valuable thing I've gotten out of therapy, at least so far. My T told me early on that one of his goals was to have his voice in my head, so I could use it when ever I needed it. He's only actually SAID "You might want to find a better way to think about that" once. But I "hear" it all the time. I'll never forget that moment. He was looking at me both totally seriously and somewhat amused. I stared at him while my brain went. "Oh...Wait....Yeah, I actually CAN do that can't I? And maybe it would make more sense?" :D There's kind of a line, somewhere, between accuracy and minimizing and probably other stuff, but I think it's worth pursuing.
On the re-read it is clear that her mother does not have the same perspective... and that she hasn't handled it well either by being unsupportive.
If I had to bet, I'd bet that there's more here than this one incident. But it's probably "safer" to focus on the nurses than on mom.
 
@The Albatross , what you're talking about is the most valuable thing I've gotten out of therapy, at least so far. My T told me early on that one of his goals was to have his voice in my head, so I could use it when ever I needed it. He's only actually SAID "You might want to find a better way to think about that" once. But I "hear" it all the time. I'll never forget that moment. He was looking at me both totally seriously and somewhat amused. I stared at him while my brain went. "Oh...Wait....Yeah, I actually CAN do that can't I? And maybe it would make more sense?" :D There's kind of a line, somewhere, between accuracy and minimizing and probably other stuff, but I think it's worth pursuing.

If I had to bet, I'd bet that there's more here than this one incident. But it's probably "safer" to focus on the nurses than on mom.
what you are saying kind of makes sense i guess it is easier to blame to blame the nurses because I don't really know the nurses... Now that I think about it I think it is my mom who I am really angry at
 
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