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Any Practical Suggestions? Work, Exhaustion, Spontaneous Si, At The End Of My Rope

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I agree with Abstract. Feelings are not "true" or "false." They are what they are. I was a bit confused as well in how to respond. It's the reasoning we come to that is either fact or it isn't.

So then....PTSD affects how we process something (reasoning) and thus we produce our feelings.

However, yes our feeling may result in us being wrong or incorrect (I know where you are coming from when you brought this up) due to our reasoning (the rose tinted glasses). But it's not just the feeling we get but how it is contrived.

As for numbness, it is a feeling....not much though! He he.

Hope you made it to work on time! Breathe....breathe....breathe....

Don't they make blue hue glasses anymore? Or is it on backorder somewhere????
 
Thank you so much Gizmo, Abstract, SG.

Abstract, I do understand what you mean, and I looked it up. And I think, beyond numbness, it was dissociation, though I really don't know if that's the correct term. Only because, I noticed that for the most part- unconsciously really, I started to substitute 'Christmas' for just 'a' day. I mean, how can one go through the day and night (it started Christmas eve), and 'forget' it's Christmas Day, with so many reminders?? :confused: I only noticed when I kept writing 'sunday Dec 25th" on the paperwork, and it never occurred to me it wasn't sunday and it was Christmas. But thinking about it I didn't even notice 'families' around me, and forgot about their family dinners- thought at one point "Gee a lot are out.. oh ya..". Didn't notice anything much. And that served to make things bearable, I guess. Though I didn't try, think of it, or intend to do that, or even realize I was doing it. For the most part, I felt no emotion all day, not positive ones. Except for hearing an old song and feeling better. Feeling anything other than 'get me out of here'. ('Here' being everywhere).

It sounds stupid, but I think it was my mind's way of not having to 'think' of it.

And times like those, I seem to have no adequate mental defense to even seperate what a thought is from a feeling, let alone trying to weigh 'facts'. Yet in no way does it feel like panic. Horrible, but not panic. :( Ugh.

And I had no reason preceeding the numbness, not anger or anything.

On a positive note, the people at work, the people I talked to outside of it, said they were so happy because of it (talking). Go figure. Though I'm glad, I hope so.

Thank you gizmo. I presume if it's that negative it's at the very least self-abusive, really, though it sounds 'weird' to say it that way.

Dear SG, yes blue is restful, lol. Though you might get arrested by the Fashion Police. ;) :)

As an aside, got a couple of texts an hour ago, thankfully didn't see them, from my sister's bf, saying "she was drunk and to talk to 'her', because she didn't want them to drive (take a cab instead), and he thinks he is fine (sober). " (They are at a party out of town). I'm glad of what I 'missed' over these few days. But I'm afraid, re: New Year's. :(

I think what makes me so angry, or discouraged with ptsd, is that I considered it as something 'bad' compared to 'normal'. As an analogy, like losing a limb. But it seems to steal more from me every day- like Christmas, I always loved. It's like I'm losing more limbs. :( I thought the damage was contained with the initial injury, but it seems to keep taking more away, and this is the first time I realized it in those terms.

However, it will be what I make it, I guess. It's so disheartening, however.

Hugs and thanks from the bottom of my heart for you all :hug: .
 
Someone once told me or maybe it was here, that feelings are a fact. They are what they are and they can be intense at some moments than not. Another thing is that, as its a new concept for me, is that feelings don't determine who we are; they are what they are.

I've always been an emotional person but I think my emotions over the years may have gotten more exaggerating or more intense. Never knew how to really control them. Point is: ptsd is something that may never go away or be cured once and for all, but it can be tamed. I don't think I may be of help but just by reading the posts, trust is a very difficult thing for all of us. You r not alone.
 
Hi Junebug,:)

I am sorry it felt like a matter of survival. I have to say it was for me too. It can be jolly painful.

And times like those, I seem to have no adequate mental defense to even seperate what a thought is from a feeling, let alone trying to weigh 'facts'. Yet in no way does it feel like panic.
I don't think anyone can initially. It is very difficult to do at first. Its something that takes hard work and practice. Might I suggest you make some notes or set up something that would mean you have reminders in place for when you need them. If you have step by step recipe it is easier to do in the moment. Its a bit like grounding with flashbacks or intrusions. It takes hard work and practice and sometimes works better than other times.

It does sound like you were in a daze. I think it can be helpful to see dissociation (D) as many different levels of intensity and type. So it can be the disconnection of emotion (numbness) or it can be the disconnection of sensation or pain. For some it can also be the disconnection of motor control of a part (or sight or sound etc) or it can be disconnection with one sense of self (depersonalisation) and distancing from or one from ones environment. it can also be a disconnection between levels of consciousness and we can go into varying levels of D trance. A full and inflexible disconnection between parts of personality is another type and very different from the rest and very different from disconnection between ego states.

So in a nutshell emotions can go missing as can sensation or pain or sight etc.

I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea for you to do some sort of cognitive behavior therapy course online.

Hugs Junebug.
 
I think what makes me so angry, or discouraged with ptsd, is that I considered it as something 'bad' compared to 'normal'. As an analogy, like losing a limb. But it seems to steal more from me every day- like Christmas, I always loved. It's like I'm losing more limbs. :( I thought the damage was contained with the initial injury, but it seems to keep taking more away, and this is the first time I realized it in those terms.

Junebug,

First off anybody who works like crazy with no breaks is going to be running on empty and not "all there." There will always be a degree of dissociating. Actors and politicians are excellent at it! Not to mention us sales folks! There is a tendency to over analyze with PTSD in order to have an answer for everything. It's funny reading some of the posts because if you didn't have the trauma you had and developed PTSD, you would see a lot of these symptoms in people around you everywhere in society. It's OK to say, "This is just another day," because we all do it in the world to get past something. It's business policy to leave personal problems at home in the workplace. Even if you are sick, upset, or depressed, you show up to work cheerful, with a good, positive attitude and be productive for 8 hours minimum! The working world is ALL about "dissociation." (Please don't take me as equating it to dissociation with PTSD.)

Just don't be to be too hard on yourself. It may FEEL like you're losing more and more but you're not. The fact that you recognize the feeling is a good sign! So what, you miss one holiday? There's another coming. But more importantly, it's making each day count. Holidays are what we make of them. Make everyday YOUR holiday. :):D

A great big hug for you and another glass of eggnog while it lasts!!!!! :hug:
 
Dear Abstract, thank you! Yes, never thought of such a thing. But you reminded me, I read (and worked through) this book once ("How to Stay Alive While Your Brain is Trying to Kill You"- long story but it ended up in my hands)- I think it was CBT. Because a friend and I on here did some of the exercises together years ago. He sent me some exercises, and I was doing them already. That is, to identify each emotion as it occurred, mentally note it in my head, and repeat (obviously several could be noted at times in a short time). He said that it was pretty amazing I could do it in my head, but really it was only because I had to, such as at work and no time to stop (but I'd try to get a few seconds to myself). I tried the CBT Workbook from the Library ages ago, but I couldn't do the exercises. :( (I mean literally). At tleast the ones that said write down "such and such" (positives about yourself, etc), just couldn't do most of them. Very bad self-worth (extremely). Oh yes, but I do do that 'Big Stop Sign' in my mind, idea. A big part is remembering! I guess and recognizing it's a necessary time to employ it (grounding).

Wow, do you ever understand that 'dissociation' stuff. :tup: Holy. :) I've been terrible for always 'tuning out' things like most physical pain, hunger etc. But this sort of feeling is different- 'checking out', for sure. What should have tipped me off, I think, is that I also felt like, why keep trying to not smoke etc, no logic just feeling. Well, that feeling or self-destructive feeling in general should be a Big indicator.

At some level (maybe an obvious one) I think sheer exhaustion too. And hyperarousal, maybe. Whatever- physical added things.

Also, I don't acknowledge that I can feel badly, myself, at times. Because oddly enough, I'm happy others are happy or have families, etc. Strangely enough, for weeks I listened to people at work say "(Christmas) is just another Day"; I tried hard to help them for it not to be (even just a pleasant one). And it seemed to be successful, but then I was left as they were. :( I think too, sheer lack of any time off. I was off friday before, even though super-busy it helped me ground so much. Then I let that crazy interaction get to me. Or it 'did' get to me, then I had to work backwards. Because of your help. :inlove: :hug:

And as you said of course, recognizing black-and-white thinking, cognitive distortions.

Thank you for your 'help' and 'hope'. There must be some way to manage this, as KatB said also. 'Muse' had a post yesterday, described it exactly, 101% through-and-through. Right brain 'trapped' non-verbal memories and pain.

Sounds a little strange, but being Catholic we celebrate Christmas ('technically') for sort of 8 days (and all year in a little way). That makes me feel better that I can start over a little bit. :) (Like I just pressed 'Ctrl Z' and didn't lose everything just now! :eek: :) ) I know others don't think of it that way, but I was alone anyway, and no time off, so in some ways I need more time for the message to sink in.

Dear KatB, yes somewhere it said write down the feelings as part of facts, making a decision. That's what mixes me up. :( Perhaps they mean, how something consistently makes you feel (good or bad), and the degree to which we can imagine handling it. Maybe asking 'our hearts' what we feel, as opposed to transient feelings. I think Abstract and Sailorgal described it really well though, acknowledging feelings without judgment, on their own basis, but not acting on them. (That's like SI also, right Abstract?)

Thank you so much for even reading this 'junk', and caring enough to try to help. It always shocks me to see responses, I surely didn't want to risk bringing others down, especially at Christmas. (And thank you for saying it was/ is ok for it to 'feel like', a question of survival). All your help means more than words adequately express.

(((((((((Dear Sweet Abstract)))))), ((((((KatB)))))), xox.
 
I just checked online for you Junebug. If you are not getting therapy and have never had therapy then this would at least me a starting point for you. I am sure there are other providers and you could look around. [DLMURL]http://www.online-therapy.com/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-ptsd-online-therapy-c-155.html?osCsid=b0722181aedf48263058d2df9b10ee45[/DLMURL]

PS. Or if the idea of tackling the trauma stuff directly is too much at present then doing one for something like anxiety would probably be really useful for you. [DLMURL]http://www.online-therapy.com/anxiety-online-therapy-c-124.html[/DLMURL]

http://www.online-therapy.com/start/ cbt- therapy- online.html?gclid=CPmM6f6TuLQCFSbMtAodei4AUA

It does sound like you have done some CBT stuff so well done to you! :) It's one of those things that you have to just keep practicing.:inlove:
 
Oh Dear Sailorgal, thank you! Your words are so hopeful! And you are right- I always (try to) encourage people to be able to drop the masks with me, even during 'their' work hours (though professinally they're not 'supposed' to). One guy told me yesterday, "thank you (me) for your company, and being able to talk to you" [simply because I knew from the start how he *might* be feeling (as a human being working Christmas Day].

Hee! Now I have an excuse to be "not all there", eh? SG, you are so cute! :joyful:

Yes, I don't know 'how' it feels without ptsd, it seemed to start at 14. So I don't really know how 'the other half' lives.

And yes, I did think yesterday, heard someone had passed away without warning (so sad) , each day is what counts, as none of us knows. I know that. Thank you for reminding me of what's important. Love and history and each day, the small things and being alive, not the 'wrappings'.

That helps me a lot, re: New Year's. It's actually a lot to celebrate that there may be a New Year, that's occassion for happiness.

You are such a Sweet and dear, kind soul Sailorgal. I think I'll head straight for the rum, lol. I'll share. :happy:

(((((((Sailorgal, xoxox)))))))
 
Dear Abstract, thank you I will check! I think I've been hesitant (last couple of years) to touch on anything without sufficient grounding abilities, as I finally experienced some real relief from the SI in either January 2010 or January 2011- I can't recall. :rolleyes: I can't quite recall if it was January, either. Or maybe it was June 2011? Yikes- it's a Giant Blurr. Anyway, I will. Thank you so much!!!! ((((((( :hug: ))))))). (Super Big Ones :) :inlove: ), xox.
 
You know was thinking about it, what really shocks me, is that outside of one of my sisters, or my mom when she was living (16+ years ago), I have received the most help or care the past 6 years from total strangers, not family or bf's, ever, and not even friends except for 2 or 3. People I didn't know, who had and have no obligation to help or care or take any time or effort, or even be required to feel inclined to. That is, like 'here'.

I always feel like, "Hey! You must mean someone else..", I feel like looking behind me, lol. It's quite mind-boggling, many 'Angels'. :) :inlove:

Thank you so much. :hug: , xoxox.
 
Btw, off the subject, but has anyone seen Muse's post about 'Over-riding Biology'? I think there is much truth in that, there have been articles here about accessing the right brain (left-handed musical instrument instruction, etc). I think there is something very correct about that.
 
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