Are The Majority Of Therapists Crazy?

[Ladaco]

Therapist & Counselor are 2 very wide umbrella terms that cover a huge number of actual jobs with a wide variety of qualifications. The least of which requires no education, training, or practical experience (just paying a licensing fee with the state, and pay taxes on earned income), the greatest of which requires 15+ years of specialized schooling & thousands of hours of supervised counseling during their residency & internship(s).

So whether someone has just put out a shingle, or devoted a decade or more to specialized education & training? Accounts for some of the wide variation in both skill & fees.

Please provide your resources. You can absolutely not hang out a shingle and pay a license fee. Please attach your resources.

 

[Epuf]

Psychiatrists were the mostly to be arrested out of all the doctors. General practitioners were next on lis.. A lot of docs kill their wives, that seems to reoccur.

This is creepy.

 

[Cedope]

Some are glorifying the job and salary of therapists. Anyone can go on Monster or other job site and put in your city and seek licensed therapist, licensed counselor-since they are only ones that can do therapy. See what comes up.

 

[Ovah]

Just my 2 cents: I have two friends who are psychologists and both are certifiably crazy. Irrational, emotional, disturbed, everything.

I have 3 close aquaintenances that are social workers. I consider them all to be VERY difficult people. The most difficult really.

My most sane/stable friends I have want nothing to do with mental health field...

When it comes to therapists I've seen personally, I haven't noticed they aren't any different than anyone else on the crazy scale so that is counter to everything I just said. Maybe I'm so nuts in session that they seem sane by comparison.

The end of my point is that I have no idea. You are probably onto something though!

 

[Kober]

Pittsburgh Pa Private Practice - after billing service, rent , utilities, part time secretary, insurance, licensure, misc.
Fee is $100.00 per hour but honor insurance agreements. Highest pays $90.00, lowest $60.00 Does not accept Medicaid (redundant paper work) Reduced rate for established self pay clients is $60.00 Avg. work week 50 hours
$50,000 net Take home $4000.00 per month

 

[Ovov]

The agency does not pay therapists what they bring in,

This is 100% true for my therapist. He charges $125 for a 45 mins session but has to share it with the PDoc and the front office staff. So the end result is much less. And he saw me for $62.50 for 6 months when my insurence was being stupid and placed me in a hole, so i could still see him weekly and he took that hit. The others got their normal share.

Now of course he sees on average 9 patients a day but shared amoungst all, it isnt $125 an hour.

The T is suppose to allowed the rest of the hour to do their documentation (ideally) and notes and take a pee.

Also true. My therapist took a few mins in the beginning of the session once to take a piss. Poor guy! I think he runs to the bathroom between patients or something normally.

 

[Dupiwa]

I think that people enter the field with good intent. It does barely pay the bills. People become burned out too. Listening to others problems all day and every day. What other field receives this much criticism? I agree with ova

 

[Zihube]

This is 100% true for my therapist. He charges $125 for a 45 mins session but has to share it with the PDoc and the front office staff. So the end result is much less. And he saw me for $62.50 for 6 months when my insurence was being stupid and placed me in a hole, so i could still see him weekly and he took that hit. The others got their normal share.

Now of course he sees on average 9 patients a day but shared amoungst all, it isnt $125 an hour.



Also true. My therapist took a few mins in the beginning of the session once to take a piss. Poor guy! I think he runs to the bathroom between patients or something normally.

That was very nice of him to continue to see him for a reduced rate, and many do that. Many are very caring people that way. I say that is a little co dependent because I do not know any other business that does this-physicians don't do this. I know that I can't go to Pigly Wigly or Giant Eagle and ask for a discount because I lost my job. The electric company will not reduce my bill because I had to take a leave of absence. Therapy is a business too. Why do people think that money is not an important factor. Actually, studies show that when people feel they are compensated fairly for their work-they do a better job. Do you really want a therapist who is trying to provide you with counseling, but in the back of their mind, is aware their electric is being shut off today, their car is in shop, and they are behind on their daycare bill. Hell No. Good people are taking other avenues, such as teaching and other jobs that they are qualified for that compensate them fairly. Therapists need to eat too!

 

[Bafof]

reducing their rate further to about $12-13 per hour

Do the math-$600 week less tax+ $500 week= $2000 per month
Students loan $800
Net pay $1200 = POVERTY

Go on Psychology Today or any database of therapists. The shit ones are asking $90 an hour.....Yes, they have horrible student loan debt, but so does just about everyone else, and most of them aren't paid anywhere near that.

 

[Bafof]

@Ovov said: Now of course he sees on average 9 patients a day but shared amoungst all, it isnt $125 an hour.

I can only guess what his take is -- $75? $60? For each hour, most of it spent running down the clock with small talk? And then on Friday, he goes home with a measly $2,700 check for it? How does he survive!?

 

[Eso]

Go on Psychology Today or any database of therapists. The shit ones are asking $90 an hour.....Yes, they have horrible student loan debt, but so does just about everyone else, and most of them aren't paid anywhere near that.

They are asking......What is their overhead? Rent, secretary, billing, etc. Expenses are at least half, and self employment tax. It is a business if they are private practice. I asked if you could please produce your source. Psychology Today is not hiring therapists, I would like to see the job ad for these high paying jobs-in average cities.

@Ovov said: Now of course he sees on average 9 patients a day but shared amoungst all, it isnt $125 an hour.

I can only guess what his take is -- $75? $60? For each hour, most of it spent running down the clock with small talk? And then on Friday, he goes home with a measly $2,700 check for it? How does he survive!?

Right. One thing I learned early in adulthood is to never try to count someone elses money. Things are not as they appear. Oh, whats FICA? The poster said he shared $62.50. Who knows what other insurance pays and how many accounts never get paid. Sounds like you have missed your calling but you can still do it. I encourage you to enroll asap. You can make small talk and maybe help clients with their budgets with all those math skills, all while making great money.

 

[Bafof]

I asked if you could please produce your source. Psychology Today is not hiring therapists

These are practitioners who are advertising their services on Psychology today.