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[Fargo1]

Alright fellas, let's take a step back here.

First the weapon caliber-stopping power discussion is a never ending and deeply personal. All of the 'scientific' studies are flawed in pretty significant ways and our personal experiences are just that-personal experiences.

Second, this thread was started by Tim to discuss him deciding if he should let go of his beloved Beretta 96. (BTW Tim I think you should keep it!)

Third, as we are all aware a major symptom of PTSD is anger. I think that arguing over caliber and stopping power is a surefire way to induce anger in any or all of us.

Finally, remember one of the rules of this Forum "treat people with respect, courtesy and in an adult manner."

Fargo

 

[Wagon]

Bar Fight!!!! You guys are done. It's the only thing Squids excel at.

But seriously folks. Lets tone it down and make nice before I..... I mean you get hurt.

 

[Ned]

LSUTigerfan - RE gas systems, Fair play, a good technical point. But hence my preference for good old gas-piston. Believe me mate the L1A1 is so reliable even in the worst conditions, a good engineering goal that goes back to 1914.
One other thing, .30cal tends to be a lot more ammunition-tolerant, agreed?

 

[Ned]

We used to fill the hole in the stock with a good 1-2 inches of axle grease. It kept the recoil spring from making noise and it also smoothed up the action some. It did make a bit of a mess if you used too much.
It's the little things like using a bit of intertube on the T&E for the m-60 on a tripod to help it seat properly ...thats the stuff you only learn from using them a lot.

Yep, lots of bodges like that. Used to put a jubilee clip on the barrel of the L1A1 to calm down the flip. If you were really professional it even got painted black.
You're right about reaction to action too, terrible thirst. (maybe I'd peed myself more than I knew).

 

[anthony]

I refuse to defend myself to some f*cking know it all asshole. I came here hoping for something helpful. I'm sorry I made the mistake of entering this conversation. I have no doubt you are not half the killer you make yourself out to be.

I will only warn you once about the limited rules here, being commonsense. No soldier I have ever known has been proud of being any type of killer, and if you are, then you are either a teenager trying to be tough, or have serious mentally disturbed issues if proud of killing. Which is it?

 

[anthony]

Argh... after reading more, banned. I don't have time to wipe kids arses or those who are proud of killing or some such bullshit. This forum is for veterans with PTSD, and I am yet to meet one who is proud of anything nasty they done or seen.

 

[reddevil1111]

Thanks, I was pretty messed up about that guy. I wanted to be nice. And I must have written my posts to him 4 or more times each time I wrote back I had to delete a lot of stuff to stay nice.
I just didnt understand him. From the start he sounded like a kid looking for something or to stir the pot.
Thanks, Dan

 

[Tim &Bailey]

Sorry guys (Reddevil1111 and Ned) The gun I'd want in a close quaters combat fight is my Mossbergh 500. With pistol grip fore and aft. I fitted mine with a neebo tac light with center laser and I use Winchester steel T shot (56 balls in 3 in magnums) or 00 and #2 buck. Close quaters hands down 12 gauge is the way to go ( my opinion but then again opinions are like bung holes we all have em and they all stink)

Tim & Bailey

Up date on my Beretta my brother just tried to sweeten the deal told me he would buy me a hunting pistol (my choice) as a replacement.

 

[Ned]

Sorry guys (Reddevil1111 and Ned) The gun I'd want in a close quaters combat fight is my Mossbergh 500.

Absolutely no arguement with that. 12g pump is what I've got when I'm mansion-sitting!
I'd keep your Beretta..........