Betrayed Wives Being Diagnosed With Ptsd

[Abstract]

I can't quite believe there is a lack of trauma in modern life. Just a change in types. Less war and certain other types yes. Within certain countries. Would imagine abuse hasn't gone anywhere but I guess its hard to tell as who knows what the real figures are in the past or now, Its definitely more talked about, And everything seems to be heading towards the more diagnosed arena. Had thought that was more to do with insurance companies and the DSM than anything else but who knows.

Didn't know the industry was actually considering recognising these things as PTSD. Under a different section. PTSD? Good grief.

 

[Gs172003]

I can't quite believe there is a lack of trauma in modern life. Just a change in types. Less war and c...

My sister works at a psychiatric hospital. She deals with the insurance companies. They love any diagnosis that can't be deemed "deadly" like psychosis for example. ( I could be slightly off but you get the point). It takes an act of Congress for her to be able to keep people in that actually need it but people that don't fake suicide attempts until their welfare checks come in and then they leave. The same people do it over and over. How do you work with that?

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I live near ft knox. There are still troops being sent. I also live in a town where people are being sho...

There's crime everywhere. But there was the same crime with war and now crime without war.

I never said trauma wasn't happening but in the US, we are without war. That's a fact.

Syria

And I said:

Or at least some keys countries.

 

[Abstract]

But I think this was partly due to an earlier trauma in which my father cheated on my mother in front of me,

Hi Lambchop, :)
I think this is exactly what some of the others on here were referring to. What you witnessed with your parents and the other pre existing trauma you had before this would make betrayal a whole different kettle of fish for you than someone with no previous trauma. Symbolic things get twisted up and tied around each other sometimes and deep emotional wounds very entrenched into other stuff, Not in any way saying this wasn't upsetting in its own right but I know for me it took a long time to start accepting that part of my reactions to certain things were due to previous trauma. And if he was abusive later I would wonder if some of this was accompanied by undermining behaviour or more. Like others here have said - abusive behaviour of various types co existing with the betrayal itself. Not trying to tell you what you feel at all of course. That is totally up yo you only. Just some thoughts.

 

[Nessa7]

From what im being told yes, they are saying the addictions have caused it. One husband told the group that his wife " goes to work, comes home, sleeps "

If that's PTSD then I'm sure there's many people here that would take it over what they deal with

I don't know how much faith I would put in the husbands' accounts of what their wives are going through. This information isn't coming from the wives themselves. It's coming from the person that caused the pain.

I've been in AA meetings where husbands that absolutely abused their wives acted as though they were only experiencing minor problems in their marriage.

 

[Gs172003]

I don't know how much faith I would put in the husbands' accounts of what their wives are going through....

That is true.

 

[mamachick]

@Nessa7-That is exactly what I thought too. Its all hear say. Nothing concrete here.

 

[Deleted member 35429]

I'm very late to the party here but wanted to add my 2 cents. I do remember reading an article about cheating and that the spouses being cheated on display PTSD symptoms such as hypervigilance, insomnia, depression, anxiety, shame, nightmares. I can imagine if you are a women or man that is vulnerable without means to work, and children to care for, that the threat to the family unit could be earth shattering for them more so than being mugged or raped.
I've never been cheated on (that I know of) so I don't speak from experience.

Referencing an awful Hollywood movie - I do remember The General's Daughter from the 90's. The movie is about a very horrific rape and the trauma from that but the final words of the movie John Travolta said, "what's worse than rape? Betrayal"

It's a stupid movie but he makes a good point. I think betrayal is often part of what makes PTSD so severe. When your father rapes you, or you mother strangles you as a child, it might be the betrayal as much or more than the fear of death that cause PTSD. Just a thought that might give some clout to the PTSD diagnosis for betrayed wives.

Having said that, I've lived through some pretty traumatic stuff and the only things that gave me PTSD symtoms were life threatening. The rest just made me crazy.

 

[RMW]

Some of you know that my now husband has a past porn issue and is going to a group for men with sex addi...

I feel they likely had PTSD and the stress/trigger of the issue caused a reaction which led to a diagnosis.

 

[Gs172003]

I don't know what the reality is as I can't speak for them.

 

[Gs172003]

There's crime everywhere. But there was the same crime with war and now crime without war....

There is still trauma outside of war. What makes people think there isn't?

 

[mamachick]

I am pretty sure that the diagnosis of ptsd was created after Vietnam and the purpose was really to provide vets with disability because they previously would not qualify. ( I don't remember all so feel free to correct any facts as I did not fact check this right now). This is from memory. This was the main purpose of the diagnosis, and those that fit the criteria that were not vets benefitted from this.

That in no way means that trauma does not exist outside of war. It was just not recognized under this umbrella. Other victims of trauma were diagnosed with "something" but it was often vague. In early years of psychology, how many women were diagnosed with things such as hysteria. What a crappy term for women who were likely abused in some way.

@0101 post ^-I don't know about the cheating as a cause but you do make very good points about being dependent on another for sustaining life. Not so much today as we know it, but in history when women were not so present in the work place and did not have access to money. It also reminded me that it was not that long ago that a court ruled that you could beat your wife as long as the marks were not larger than ones thumb. That is where the term "Rule of Thumb" came from.