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Christian Religion Causes Me Anxiety And Fear.

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I think Churches, forums, work, people- everything- it depends on the people you meet, person by person.
And a lot of great people, well that makes for a great space, and a lot of good can come out of that.

((((Fairywings))))

Funny, when I look back on my life, eventually I have realized the most horrific times, sometimes I met the kindest of souls, at the same time.

Yikes, I can't edit (server)- same thing, like-'minded'-hearts, whether that be church or not, seems to make a bigger difference than any one's single beliefs or practises.
Actions mean a lot. And true beliefs, (lack of prejudism, no blame, etc).
Kinder people.
 
Kinder people.
I am struggling to tell my T about the spiritual abuse I went through and why. She wants me to write it all out for the insurance. And I don't even know her. It is the worst aspect of my trauma. And just writing a few sentences has triggered SI. I don't understand myself. I'm absolutely frightened God wants me to return.
 
Fairywings, I hope you feel better soon. I do at times come across bolder than is prudent. My apologies.

It's ok. :) I am just not at my best. I am reading the post's again and realize
it's best to be more open than I am about things. I think I was just triggered by the post.
My apologies.

I think Churches, forums, work, people- everything- it depends on the people you meet, person by person.
And a lot of great people, well that makes for a great space, and a lot of good can come out of that.

((((Fairywings))))

Funny, when I look back on my life, eventually I have realized the most horrific times, sometimes I met the kindest of souls, at the same time.


Thank you. Me too.

You take good care then fairywings.
Super work that you are seeing help!!!! I'm guessing it will do a world of good given your level of self awareness and reflection. Crummy that you have to wait. (When I am philosopher queen, things are gonna be DIFFERENT.:D:rolleyes: )


LOL! Yes, it's good that I'm seeking help but they aren't in a hurry.
I agree with that..if only we ruled the world:D:)
 
I'm absolutely frightened God wants me to return.

This is an awful feeling. My best friend struggled for years with this kind of feeling, (in her case that God wanted her to go back to her rotten marriage.) I'm not sure what finally got it to let go - maybe realizing that God *had to be* more kind hearted and generous and nurturing than even the strictest/most demanding people in her life - and THEY all thought she absolutely shouldn't go back...

It is a hard thing to wipe the human faces off God, once we've gotten into the habit of looking at them instead of realizing that God is greater and more loving than they *can* be.
 
This is the first time that I have seen this thread and the discussion and the comments have been very enlightening. From my own personal perspective, there is a huge difference between faith and religion.

Faith is the personal experience/relationship we have with God, our creator, or whoever or whatever an individual puts into that role. PTSD also impacts our ability to "have" faith, in that faith requires trust; and there are also areas of the brain that suffer damage from PTSD that are central to the development of and conceptualization of faith. So many times I have heard people say they have "lost their faith" or "lost the ability" to believe. The cognitive impairments and neurological damage caused by PTSD definitely affect this aspect of our lives.

Religion on the other hand is an institution, governed by a set statement of beliefs and/or doctrines, where like-minded believers can form a community of faith. But like any institution, it is made up of many individuals who will each have their own take on "faith"; and as with any other human community, you will find both the good and the bad.

It is perfectly normal for people to turn to their faith community in times of trouble, and when they feel they have been let down, judged, ostracized, etc., it can hurt twice as bad, as this is where we were taught to find refuge, understanding, love, etc. Not only does it cause a person to question religion, but it also hits at a deeper level causing an individual to question their faith.

For myself, I am working on my own faith and what it means to me. I really believe that once a person is strong in their own personal faith, the anxiety of religion can be resolved. When you know what you truly believe in; that becomes a part of "who" you are, and then regardless of what others say or do, they cannot touch that part of you.

It does not mean that I will attack, belittle or judge those who's faith is different than mine as that is not a part of my faith to do so. But ask me what and how I believe and I will share it with you. It is not my place to tell anyone what to believe in, but it is my place to live by the faith I chosen to believe in.

That is where I focus my own spiritual growth is being true to my God and myself in what I profess. I don't always do a great job as I am human, and that is where forgiveness comes into play. Forgiving oneself is also a huge part of healing from trauma and is much easier said than done. Much of our own anxiety comes from that inability to forgive and accept ourselves for who we are. Not what we think we should be or what others told us we should be.

So is it really religion that causes anxiety or our own personal concepts of religion? For me it is finding my faith and making it a part of who I am. Once I am strong in my faith, then I can practice religion with like-minded believers, and at that point the differences do not cause anxiety, as after all they are only human too and their faith is as personal to them as mine is to me.

Evil can be perpetuated in the name of anything. But along with evil exists the good and it is finding that good outside ourselves and making part of us that allows us to better withstand the evil. That is my own personal observation.
 
Faith is the personal experience/relationship we have with God, our creator, or whoever or whatever an individual puts into that role. PTSD also impacts our ability to "have" faith, in that faith requires trust; and there are also areas of the brain that suffer damage from PTSD that are central to the development of and conceptualization of faith.
I think this is what's happened to me :( I struggle to trust in anyone or anything because I guess it was shown to me from an early age that nobody can be trusted, least of all myself, so therefore I can't have that personal relationship with God to a level where I can say I have 'faith'...in anything.

But like any institution, it is made up of many individuals who will each have their own take on "faith"; and as with any other human community, you will find both the good and the bad.
Yep, I totally agree with this. Unfortunately I experienced the bad and it shook my faith to the core. Being told by the people who abused me that I was 'evil' shook my faith in myself and in God. But actually, that is their version of faith, how they manipulated it to further emotionally abuse me. I think it is the religious institution that I struggle with mainly. My trust is low, which affects my faith, but it is the human element that actually puts me off. Hopefully, one day, I'll find my faith and be in a strong enough position to no longer be affected by 'religion' at all.

Deb, I don't think you will ever know just how much your post has cleared the fog for me. How much your words mean to me. I haven't lost my faith in God at all, it's just been a little damaged. But I have lost my trust in people and there's a fundamental difference there that I've just not seen before. :) Thank you so much.

Oh and apologies if this reply is badly written, struggling to form decent sentences today. :oops:
 
Just my bit- I absolutely abhor organized religion. I think it is the cause of most of the problems we all suffer from as humans on earth, things like war and poverty and ignorant thinking and social inequality.

No one is born thinking it is OK to fly an airplane into a building, it takes a religion to get that kind of thought into an otherwise functioning brain. No one has a baby and dreams of a future that includes belittling it for failing to live up to the standards of a religion, no one ever thinks that their religion that they believe is based on love and acceptance will lead them to hating someone because they fail to measure up within the religion or dare to contradict it.

I think there is some good, there is no denying that. Church groups do good work all of the time.

But sometimes it fails and the failures can be huge.

Always remember and never forget that the largest standing army to ever go to war with a national christian agenda was the third Reich. You can argue that it isn't possible to be a christian and a Nazi at the same time, that the two thoughts are mutually exclusive, but there are one heck of a lot of dead German soldiers that would have argued their faith all day long with you.
 
I think there is some good, there is no denying that. Church groups do good work all of the time.

But sometimes it fails and the failures can be huge.

I posted last night and this morning in the light of day it seems harsh and overstated.

I think faith is a personal matter and in the heart of any of us can be the source of our strength and the base for our growth and healing. Church groups DO do a lot of good work, and the work is done by the faith-filled members of the church. I would never denounce a member of a church purely for their affiliation with the church of their choice, I would never be filled with hate towards any organised religion, if the feelings weren't legitimate responses to actions of the church.

I do not just draw a line and say "all religions are bad, all members are bad".

But I am objective on the subject and I do blame many of the problems we face as humans on the planet on organised religion.

I can understand having anxiety and fear caused by Christianity. Not caused by the good works done by Christians everyday, not because of the fellowship available to anyone that is like minded and wishes to share their faith in a religion with other members. The fear and anxiety is caused by the works of followers that use a religion to push an agenda, be it political, freedom limiting, exclusionary, racist or even in extreme cases (but unfortunately not rare cases) genocidal. My eyes are wide open and I cannot look and not see a potential doer of harm in every follower of every organised religion.
 
I think that religion itself can be brilliant for many many people, both as an individual and community thing. The ethos of helping others is commendable. However, I think the difficulty arises when people twist and manipulate the teachings of a particular religion for their own ends.

There will always be lovely genuine caring people in the World and in church groups. But there'll also be those individuals who want to use it against others. I don't disagree with the concept of church or having individual faith; I just think that people should be more wary of what's said to them and think their faith through for themselves.
 
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