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Relationship Dating A Vet And Need Advice

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It seems as though these guys are classic ptsd sufferers. I've been on the typical 'what men want' sites and bought their products and seen how us women are supposed to 'date' men but it's a totally different experience when it comes to a guy with ptsd.

I think that's why we love them so much. We see beyond the games of the dating scene. So I'm starting to realize that we have to combine being aware of ptsd but also when they are in a good space doing the dating thing, yet leave out the game playing, which I don't like anyway!

The languages of love is important here and we have to discover what they 'need' and work with that, and not expect to get what we 'want' and 'need' back. For instance if you need to be told how much you're loved he's may not and he may need to be shown, so our mushy little love notes push him overboard when actually he just wants you to hand him his power drill while he's working on his new toy and to him that's an action of love, as he knows you'd much rather be watching a sloppy movie or having your nails done. And even though you want the sloppy love notes, he maybe showing his love by picking up something that won't fit in your car and will fit in his truck, or rushing around to fix your leaking toilet when you call and say help!

However that's not to say that when they knock the wind out of our sails that it doesn't hurt like hell, because it does. We have to be the strong ones, but I've also realized that they want to help us too. My guy will joke because he can handle the joking back hand compliments which can hurt sometimes, for instance I was cold in bed and I wanted a hug, so I told him. He said in the true drill sergeant way, 'cold? Get up and do 50 press ups you won't be cold then' and but calmly and with a smile on my face I said, 'can you take care of me please... I'm not one of your privates.' He then said you're right, I take that back and put his arm around me and held me all night long. I've realized he acts on defense ALL the time.

Just like the text I sent yesterday to him, about it snowing and how I know he's prepared with the snow mobile at the ready. I got a long text back which was quite shitty about it being hunting season and how the hunters don't like the snowmobilers on their land and that he will do anything not to get shot at.
I've been a city girl for so long I don't know this stuff but it suddenly all made perfect sense as to why he had shut off and was in his ptsd world and retreated into his man cave.

Now naturally that text has upset me, he's not spoken or come out of his cave for over a week so to get a response like that to what was a sweet complimentary text to him, knocked the wind from my sails. I'm at a loss as to how to respond, and i am just going to have to be honest and say, the innocent city girl is going to have to learn all about this and are there any other life saving tips you can give me since I'm going to be a country girl soon.

It still hurts though. Now I'm venting a bit because like most of us, our girlfriends don't understand and are quick to judge. In fact I told one of mine last night to stop judging my guy as she had not met him, I just want to vent. And another girlfriend who is sympathetic to ptsd said something completely different. I've realized that it's support sites and groups like this that keep me sane and make me understand I'm not alone.

The 5 languages of love is an excellent book and they also have one for military too. Im in the spiritual field and so I practise a spiritual life, but this ptsd does push my buttons sometimes, we are, after all only human :)

Wow I feel like I've written a column for some magazine, it wasn't intentional it just came out. Sorry... I'm no expert at all but I hope it helps someone. :-)
 
Spiritgirl-I have decided I can't talk to my girlfriends about this. They don't get it. If i hear the word "player" one more time I just might scream. Or if I hear oh he doesn't text you because he's with another girl, I will scream at this too. Don't get me wrong. I have my moments and it's so new in our dating that he may very well be dating other people. Though, he has said many times he's not because he doesn't let anyone in and for some reason I'm different. I haven't seen him in weeks and we had plans the other day that he cancelled. So, I am taking the road of walking away for now. It's very hard. Especially when I know its not because he's not interested. He is just is walking away for now. I have tried to explain this to my friends but they don't see it. They think I'm delusional. Perhaps I am. My Vet hasn't come out and said he has ptsd. However, all the signs are there. The more he opens up the more obvious he suffers. I don't think it's as severe as some but it's there.

I can't tell you how many times I catch myself going to those "sites." They are the worst. I read them and think "oh! he hasn't called. he's not interested." Then I think of everything and those sites never make sense for me. ptsd is the only thing that has made sense. Men just don't open up and let you hold them all night in their arms because the pain is too much if they are only looking to score or aren't interested. It says "I'm messed up in my mind and I need someone who can let me be vulnerable even though I don't know how anymore." So, I wait. I may not see my Vet anymore but at least I understand why he does what he does.
 
I never thought I'd ever be in a "club" for women who love men with something as complicated and often hurtful as ptsd. I never thought I'd be on any kind of online forum at all. I've heard from so many friends that he's just a playa too...I don't think I can ever visit one of "those" dating advice sites or books again, there is absolutely no relevance there for anything I'm experiencing...in the middle of such a confusing time, one that's caused me to question everything I thought I knew about love, this forum and the thoughtful, beautiful souls I've talked with here have helped so much. I wish us all strength and good things.
 
I am right there with you, Larksong. I never thought I'd be part of this "club." I had no idea when this gentleman asked for my number that this is the road I would find myself on. I'm not complaining...I went to one of those sites the other day and told myself, enough. I can't do it anymore. They have no idea and the "he's just not into you rules" is so far off it's not even funny. However, it still plays with the mind. Then I realize oh wait. He's not with another girl, he's drowning his sorrows in alcohol tonight, or he's protesting, or he's doing some charity work with the military or his family is spending the evening with him. It's always one of the two. The military, even though he's out, consumes him. I have tried to tell my friends how it really is...When he cancelled the other day they looked at me like, how can you believe him, he cancelled to be with someone else. They have said from the beginning to write him off. While that's fine if I were dealing with a typical situation. I have asked my vet, I don't think you're feeling it between us, I'm going to back away. He tells me no, it's not that, please don't go...Of course, my friends tell me he wants you to wait around while he's playing the field. Eh, I don't see it. I've been to his house. I don't know how your guy lives but mine is very basic. Another sign of ptsd. He has nothing in his refrigerator but a bottle of scotch. He doesn't even have glasses, just paper cups. His mattress is on the floor with a knife next to the bed. Flags are everywhere. His military gear is still out along with books and DVDs. This is not a man bringing girls to his house. This is a man who is stuck in a war and hasn't come home in his mind yet. Which he has eluded to. He can't function in the real world anymore, he just wants to go back...

I too have questioned everything and this site is the first time I've found an answer to what is going on. I'm so glad I stumbled upon it.

So, yes this is a "club." A club that is very hurtful for us and more hurtful to them. How do we walk away from that? I can't. I'm not putting my life on hold. But I haven't given up on my soldier. Even if he has given up on himself at times.
 
@saraheart My guy and I have been off-and-on for about 2 years. He has diagnosed ptsd from the early 90s Gulf War, but before our last break-up around Labor Day, I just never even thought ptsd could be behind the emotional rollercoaster we'd been on--I knew next to no details about what ptsd was capable of. My last month of research, here and in books, has made me grow up and realize things that had just never occurred to me before. Still not sure whether or not we'll end up back together, but I'm determined to keep myself sane and well in every way and to approach him with honesty, friendship and love and see what happens. And so grateful for the very experienced "sufferers" and "supporters" on here with advice like above from @Ayesha . Thank you!
 
These posts are all helpful and so comforting to read. It sparked me to write and start my first post. I know we're all challenged in similar ways so sharing insight & advice is such amazing support since most outsiders don't understand. (I am lucky & have 2 friends that get PTSD because one is married to a veteran & one treats it as a social worker but I need more support for such a challenging situation that others face too.)
Keep our chins up! :)
 
Welcome @Kdsquared09, the most helpful thing for you to do right now, (if you want to explain and discuss things), to first create your own new thread. As this is the thread of Spiritgirl. The chances to get answers / opinions are much better, if you write a thread of your own.

First, klick on the link below and create a new thread, then you'll see a blue box on the right side and it's written: Post a new thread.

https://www.myptsd.com/forums/ptsd-relationships.21/
 
Think long and hard about whether you really want to be on this roller coaster. Do NOT go into it expecti...

Thank you for offering to PM (I'm not sure how to do that). Can you please let me know?
 
I think you need to join as member (which is free) and then you can start a conversation which is a private message.
 
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