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Desire Sexual Punishment

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Just an update----

I'm feeling better in that I no longer have the urges to act out sexually or desire sexual punishment, but it's very up and down. I think I'm leveling out a bit, thank goodness! I hope things continue to get better. Thursday was quite rough for me but Friday was better. Saturday I did a whole lot of nothing. (I was sick a few weeks ago for a few weeks and still get exhausted easily.) The next few days are going to put me through the wringer! I hope I can keep my head above water.

Thanks again for the care and feedback!
 
My first thought... Everything that kills me makes me feel more alive.

It's a dangerous line to walk.

The friend knows I'm an optimist in search of true love and don't want just sex yet he asks me anyway. My brain flips and I think that maybe I am only good for sex. I start to spin out of control mentally and that's why I've contacted the manipulative sex guy. I hurt so bad and now I want to be punished.

Makes sense that's why you contacted him... Less that it's all your good for, although I absolutely believe you that's where your mind went... and more MSG is a known quantity. No surprises there. You're in control. (ISH. As in not really. But the same way that trauma re-enactment is a way to exercise control.). He'll give you what you want; pain. Meanwhile former friend blindsided you, and you got hurt unexpectedly. How to counteract surprising pain? With pain dealt out on purpose. ((NOT a good idea. Just a very familiar road I've spent a lot of time walking.))

Just something to consider about former-friend; it is 100% okay for you to say "Oh f*ck no. You know I have issues with sex, and you just asked me for sex, and that's a deal breaker for me. If you don't automatically know this? I can't be friends with you. Period." ........that said....... It is requiring a form of mind reading. I require mind reading in certain areas in order to be my friend. Some things, a person has to simply know, because I will not be explaining shit. It's not, however, the healthiest thing I do.

It's conceivable that while he knows you're searching for true love, he also knows you (or thinks you might) have sex with people (that you aren't in love with) in the meantime; and thought you might like to have sex with him, if you knew the offer was on the table. That he's made an honest offer that he'd like to sleep with you? Is all about him. That's what he'd like (if you agreed). It doesn't say ANYTHING about you. Except that you promote friendships where people are honest with each other.
 
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I'm so accustomed to feeling the bad stuff that I end up wanting to feel the bad stuff as a way of comforting myself. Very messed up, right?

Not messed up! Its your comfort zone and I run there everytime. Good news is, each time you push at that comfort zone, the further and futher it moves!

So for me, each time I come on here when I am wanting to cut, punish (you'd be suprised at what i do to "punish"), go out and find a strange guy to f*ck me and do whatever he wants to me, and it used to be to ask the same neighbor to bring over dogs (have since stopped that but it was a re-enactment of my past just like the rest of them)...just to name a few...but the more i come here instead and post what i want to do and why, if i know, and the more people reply to me that they care, ideas of how to stop ect, the more you just pushed the comfort zone line....you didnt do it and you faced the feelings you are having thats making you want to.

Will you slip? Yep! Remember, you will always run to that comfort zone when it gets too much...but keep pushing at that comfort zone, keep facing it and more importantly the feelings of why...if you know, the more you do, you will start to see the comfort zone line move...you wont need it as much.

I'm feeling better in that I no longer have the urges to act out sexually or desire sexual punishment, but it's very up and down.

Because you just faced it here instead and pushed that comfort zone and im so proud of you! It will be up and down but you just pushed the comfort zone, keep doing that (post in the anoyomous area if you are too embarraed but post what you want to do and why...thats important).

When it gets too much you may run back to it, or something else that re-enacts the past, its what you are used to, its your comfort zone and thats ok...as long as you keep pushing at it. Be kind to yourself in the times you run back, its a process and its a marathon, not a sprint so this will take time.

FYI: I would never be able to go to SA either and not necessary. You can push at that comfort zone yourself! ;)

it is 100% okay for you to say "Oh f*ck no. You know I have issues with sex, and you just asked me for sex, and that's a deal breaker for me. If you don't automatically know this? I can't be friends with you. Period."

Yep, it sure is and id recommend that in this situation. Do that in times that you are ok, id say defriend him in a time that he's not asking for sex because when he is you may be tempted or it may be a time that you are 'running back to the comfort zone' and steal @Ragdoll Circus's phrase "its just not working out for me." ;)

But be kind to yourself if you dont, if you run back to him after you defriend him, if you find strange men (i know i keep repeating to be kind to yourself but thats important too)...just keep in mind what it is, its a re-enactment of your past and your comfort zone and the more you call it that, the easier it is to say to yourself "oh, im scared, hurting, to far from my comfort zone, [fill on the blank], and im wanting to run to my comfort zone. Let me go to the site and post instead' and that may or may not work but the more you identify your comfort zones and call them as such, the easier it will be to push at them and be kind to yourself if you ran back there.

If you do run back, post what you did and why, what you were feeling when you did if you know or what days were like leading up to it (this is what my therapist asks and it helps) posting may help you figure it out and when I write it down, even in your diary, seeing it written down helps me and hearing views of those that can relate and what they did to stop helps me.

I still encourage you to tell your therapist (and certianly not saying to use the site instead of your therapist...posting it just helps me to get it in those times i want to or have done it and my therapist isnt there at that point...but my therapist knows). If you need to write it down and show your therapist, or show them your orginal post...just let them read it...you dont even have to say it. They will be better at helping you understand why and how to distract in the times you want to...and understand the emotions you were feeling when you do it which will help you stop as the more you get why, the more you can say "im feeling XYZ and want to do this but im going to do this instead". Sometimes i'll jump in chat here and just into whatever convo is going on there...actually that most of the reason i jump in chat, because i want to and it gets my mind off of it. Its distraction that helps me.

In any case, im glad you are feeling better! You just faced it and Im so proud of you! You know you can message me any time! BIG :hug:s to you from someone that totally "gets it"!
 
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@FridayJones

I am very much clueless when it comes to drawing the line on what I will and what I will not accept in a relationship. I wish I was better at it but alas---

I go back and forth on this one. This friend hasn't given me other reasons (prior to this) to question him. On the other hand, I wonder why his query came up not long after he learned I had been in a twisted relationship with that guy and finally decided to get away. I can't help but wonder if he somehow saw an open door (even if just subconsciously). There's other stuff that makes me question it all but I won't get into it now.

Maybe I am being very black and white but it just hurts so bad that someone knows I'm a CSA survivor, knows about this recent situation with this guy, knows I don't want a casual arrangement, yet still asks if it would be a possibility in the future. I think the structure of the friendship has permanently changed. I tend to freak out around guys who want sex from me. It's not exactly pretty. I feel like I'm only good for one thing. I think if the friendship continued I'd always have the sex thing in the back of my mind and it would perpetuate the belief that I have to be sexual in order to be liked/loved/valued. Which is weird because with him I purposely held back the sexual stuff. With most other guys, even just friends, I do use my sexuality in my interactions with them.

In my other thread I mentioned how I can't say no in the moment so I must say no to any situation which could put me in the moment. Sadly I think this qualifies. I'm trying to accept it.
 
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Thank you for being so supportive. I am trying to come here more often instead of acting out.

But yeah-----I should confess it's not so much for lack of trying. I mean I was contacting the guy up until Friday because he indicated that he wanted sex again. (The sex guy, not the friend.) Funny, he's now mad at me and not responding. Of course this was after he told me he puts up with me because I sleep with him. (Nice guy, huh?) He puts up with me? Said minutes after the "I love you" stuff. Great, he loves me yet has to put up with me! This is why I feel worthless and only valued for sex. I still think about sexual pain but nothing beyond that; no thoughts of going through with anything.

I wish I was stronger. I wish I didn't waiver with every decision I make. I wish I could decide on one thing and just stick with it instead of continuing to do things that hurt myself.

I need to step back right now because this is a lot to handle right now. I'll continue the conversation when I feel ready to handle more. Thank you so much for all of your kindness and understanding!
 
the belief that I have to be sexual in order to be liked/loved/valued.

Yep, can identify 100%. I even did this with my admin friend on the other site.

I need to step back right now because this is a lot to handle right now. I'll continue the conversation when I feel ready to handle more. Thank you so much for all of your kindness and understanding!

It is a lot and sometimes stepping back to what I call tumble things around in your head is the best way to start learning how to apply it.

Respecting your step back and remember that Im always here, for anything! And no "thank you"s needed but, for my part anyway, you are very welcome! :hug:
 
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Posting to keep my head above water before that drowning feeling starts again.


More messages that I can't be loved for who I am, good for only sex. I can feel myself going into full retreat mode.


Thinking maybe I could just sell myself? Isn't that horrible? Only I don't think it's so horrible. I'm thinking that's about my worth right now.


Urges to hurt myself in a non sexual way, too. Haven't/won't act on them. Please don't worry. The thoughts alone scare me because I have stabbed myself before.


I don't even know where I'm going with this.


I hate that guy. Hate him. I know this is rooted in CSA but how could someone treat another that way? Why would I let him do all those nasty sexual things to me?


Thanks for reading. Please don't worry about me. I needed to get this out. Now I need to sleep. These episodes exhaust me.
 
Another update----

Slept a bit, feel a bit better. Just hope I can sleep more as it's 1am and I have a full day tomorrow.

Very much feeling the effects of the adrenaline surge and I hate it. Once it gets this bad it takes days to wear off. :(

I decided that one blip isn't enough to let go of the friendship. If anything it's a chance to practice working on my boundaries in a healthy way by saying this is the line, I am not going to cross it. I guess boundaries isn't the right word. I need to be able to have friendships where I can resist the urge to sleep with the person to make them like me. I know the CSA issues make this difficult but I feel that I am up for the challenge. I need to be able to show myself that I can have friendships that don't end up in bed-----I want to be able to prove to myself that I am liked, loved, and appreciated for who I am. I can say "no" and if the other person is a true friend they will respect my decision. If no sex is a deal breaker, the person was never a friend and I will have no problem moving on.

If I just run----well, I'll be doing the same thing that I've always done. Guy friend indicates he is interested in more, I feel good for nothing but sex, and bolt like greased lightning. No, I need to stop this pattern. I need to be able to stand my ground and say "no!" and right now is a good time to start putting this into practice.

Of course I write all of this out like it's all easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy but I know I'll struggle, I'll take a few steps back at times, and so on.

I realize this is a tad off topic but it's my thread and I'll ramble if I want to! (Sung to the tune of "it's my party and I'll cry if I want to!")

:P
 
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