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You are doing SO well at so many things. I can't imagine tackling them at once. I can't even regulate my food intake and make myself exercise at the same time.
I have been practising all these skills for years and years and years now. The more you do the better you get is what my psychiatrist always says to me. We work through issues, and then I discuss with her what I am doing for the week. It is part of my therapeutic process, it is really hard, and I am moving really slow (glaciers are no longer moving slowly but pretty much in that arena).

If you don't mind me asking, why are you planning on stopping your antidepressant?
Because part of getting well, for me, is learning the skills that I need to do the things that assists me living my life without immense reactivity.

I have unsuccessfully tried to go off medication on multiple occasions (under medical supervision) and each of those forays taught me that there were a whole host of skills that I needed to learn so I can come off medication. So it is usually a year between attempts, and I work hard at getting the skills up to go further. Now I have enough skills to go off medication, and I have the work ethic and the ability to work out the skills that I need to do, and ways of breaking them down to learn piece by piece what the next skill I need to learn.

For a long time I didn't think I would ever come of medication either, but as my skills base grew so did my goals.

Our brains not the same as people who don't have PTSD,
True, and I come with a history of severe and unremitting trauma, that began when I was a very small child, who never had a chance to have a personality, likes, dislikes, ideas, throughts without the trauma permeating every arena of my life. So I work my butt off with a whole range of skills. I do Mindfulness, meditation, social connectedness, exercise (it was raining this morning so we walked in the local mall car park area) dietary changes, portion sizes, CBT, DBT, learning boundaries, learning how to communicate, learning how to be in my body with another person in the room, (which is still really hard for me), learning not to engage in self hatred or self hating self talk, how to manage waking up with panic during the night (I have comedians on in the background now and that really helps). I am constantly problem solving in regards to my PTSD and Complex Trauma symptoms. I am still highly avoidant and have many issues to work through, but I am almost at a manageable level.

I have skills building projects in multiple arenas, and I work hard at different skills at different times. I am going to have a life, have a small modest job, and have a community where trauma is not the forefront of our discussions. I want to get well, and manage my symptoms really adroitly, and some days I do do that, and other days I don't but overall there are improvements in every arena of my life, but I have worked about a decade to get here? Maybe longer, I kept breaking down what I need to do, and then doing it.

I hope you aren't pushing too hard? If I am off base, it's ok...
No I am not pushing too hard. I am going pretty slowly. My psychiatrist is encouraging me to move forward. We just took three months to paint two bathroom ceilings, and two window sills. That is very slow for two mostly able bodied persons, that is about fear of being punished for getting it wrong, and severe procrastination. I severe procrastinate most of the time, but I am getting enough done now so that I am gaining ground. For me to live a (relatively) normal life I need to be training like an Olympian athlete

I try to imagine working on EVERYTHING at once and it's enough to send me into a panic.
But you don't go from 0 to 100, that is not how I started. I started at 0 to 1 then -10 then back to 0 then 3 or 4 then 0 and back and forth and back and forth. I started with a few skills and at the beginning I could only manage a few minutes here and there. I had nothing or no time to refer back to pre trauma, so I was lost and lingering in the corridor for the longest time.


All of that and thinking about going out into the workforce would push me right off the ledge.
But you don't just do a whole range of skills all at once, I have built up over years and years and years. I am pretty scared at getting a job, but it is not a realistic fear, it is just my generalised fear.

But you have done SO MUCH WORK on EVERY aspect of your life!
But really baby steps over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, for years and years, it is a cumulative thing. I am like an athelete running 10, 000 kilometres - there are decades worth of training going into that. I have literally done decades worth of inner work to get to this point, and for the longest time I didn't think I was going to get very far, but I did it anyway, and over time things every so slow, like rock being weathered to be the grand canyon, it didn't happen in a day or a year, it took a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long time. I just persistently did stuff to assist me to get better.

I hope that you give yourself rewards along the way?
I am not sure about this. I feel not good enough so I am not good enough to have good stuff.

Keep up the PHENOMENAL WORK!!!
I do, every day, I also slack off some days as well, some weeks are slack weeks, but I do stuff all the time to improve my brain, neuroplasticity is such an important part of the way that I live my life. I am always doing something, and I am always circling around and around ever so slowly, but over time things have started to get better.
 
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Last night I just let the child eat @NinjaWolf and I went over my points etc, I let her have Bavarian cheese cake and I baked some fresh bread, it wasn't optimum but I had been putting too much pressure on myself to restrict myself and I was about to have a meltdown.

Though I did comfort eat and pleasure eat when I was not hungry I didn't go totally off the rails like I used to - so progress with comfort eating!
 
Oh, MY GOSH!!! THANK YOU for your AWESOME response!!! You are so good at articulating your thoughts and goals. I am in awe at being able to read a virtual map of how to heal! I appreciate you taking the time to explain your choices, your successes, and your goals. (I hope you don't mind that I asked if you were pushing too hard. It is because I care.:tup: )

I am also a SEVERE procrastinator and it's the thing I dislike (hate) most about myself. But I won't give up hoping to change that.

Choosing to reach outside your boundaries has brought you so very far! When I read about your journey, I am inspired! I will remember what you said about baby steps and baby steps and more baby steps...
 
People can say whatever they want to say to me @AngelkeeperJ/AKJ. How I choose to engage or not engage with that is my responsibility.

Members of this forum have sometimes told me that I am being too hard on myself, and they have been right on a few occasions, (and yes I did need to unpack the corrosive self doubt and integrated self hatred that is an issue for me - and I am still doing the Self Compassion Breaks) but aside from that they have mostly they have been wrong. Nothing comes of nothing, if you want the progress you have to do the work. I had to come at many things sideways because of my corrosive self doubt and profound self hatred and self loathing, so some things I could only do a minute or two at a time when I first began. Decades have gone into what I am doing now. Yes I am slow, but it is better than staying where I was, that is not fun. But it is not easy. It has a huge amount of dedicated, persistant and repetition of practises to get to this point. Years and years of building up baby steps to a walk, from a walk to a sprint, from a sprint to a decent run. There are no short fixes or easy options, but you find your own way.

There have been people that have said to me you do too much, and you push yourself too hard, and there was a certain amount of sabotage in that - they didn't want to move, and they were happy cultivating what they were cultivating, and if I changed it is difficult for them because it upsets the equilibrium, but in the end they weren't who they were pretending to be anyway. So I had moved on to ignore them anyway.

I actually don't know many sane people who live outside mental illness and trauma, and lives of drama, that is the next part of the journey.

I consistently make tiny choices everyday to improve my life. It doesn't mean I don't struggle with eating. It doesn't mean that I can ground easily. It doesn't mean that I can manage social situations without stress. I am mega stressed about seeing my sister on the weekend which is why I am losing it with my eating this week. I find it hard to be in my body when another person comes into the room. Sleeping is really hard going. Sleep hygiene is really tricky. Managing living with chronic pain is really tough, but I am doing it, and my pain is getting more managable for me. I find it hard to keep up Mindfulness, CBT, DBT, exercise, positive thinking - everything that I do is hard to do, but well worth it. There are only happy endings in classic narrative films, and my life is no echo of a film. I lost everything. Family, school, connectedness, a place to live, food to eat, friends, my extra curricular activities, White skin privilege, class comfortability etc, the social networks and opportunities that go with that as well. But in some ways I didn't have much to lose due to all the trauma that I sustained from being the tiniest human. To me it is about living with dignity as much as I can and contributing to my society and community as much as I can, to have purpose and meaning.

I am more than ready for the next lot of changes, but it has taken a long time to become more embodied and present.
 
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Somehow there was an internal decision today which meant I was able to distinguish between being externally and internally hunger and I didn't slip into comfort eating. Never thought it could happen to me.

I worked my butt off for many years before I even came to this forum so a lot of work has gone into my recovery.
 
So something else has shifted with my eating last night/this morning, I am more here, and I am managing a bit better. I am frustrated, angry and resentful, but here in this present moment so that is great!

So it is Easter weekend, and my sister is making lunch tomorrow so food with her is hard, after what our Mother did to us around food. I see my brother this afternoon, so we are having lunch together. I had a zero points breakfast. I will eat just reasonable portion sizes rather than trying to eat what other people want me to eat. I really would like to get my weight down, but food was my own friend, and care when I was a care, so I have to emotionally provide for myself before I can lose more weight or manage better myself. I can have whatever I want. I just need to not restrict or I will lose it and put on weight, which I don't want to do.

So back to Self Compassion Breaks I go.
 
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Yum. That cheesecake sounded good.
I am having a no restriction day today myself. I think it makes a big difference. I can say it's the first day in a really long time I haven't put guilt on myself for eating whatever I've wanted, and I'm not going overboard. I am planning to have these days regularly, because that little person absolutely needs to know the food will always be there so she can calm down.
Awesome awesome awesome @Disco Dancing Queen :)
 
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