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Emotional Neglect?

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It's taken time for me to recognize the emotional neglect that I grew up with, and to call a spade a spade. When you grow up with it, sometimes it's hard to see it as not being normal. I remember my mother saying, "Jesus! Stop HANGING on me!" and I even remember her complaining to a neighbor, using those same words, talking about how she hated it when I did that. What I was doing was HUGGING her. Looking for affection and comfort in the place that a child should be able to get it - her mother. There have been times when I've caught myself having the same kind of reaction that she did, and I stop myself. I know better than anyone how it feels to be a child and to have your hug rejected. And I hug back.

As you said, this is a really old thread. But I think it's a good one. VooDooBaby, you could always start a new one with a similar topic, and keep the conversation open.
 
...me being a good person...but I could not feel that.

...Being raised in the Great Depression...

If you do not know how to speak the 'language' of love, or do not know what children need for their emotions to develop, how can you possibly live or teach it?

My parents are both children of the depression and their parents did not have a healthy emotional language to share or
teach them.

I think my parents did the best they could with the tools they had. Now that I am in my fifties and they are in their eighties, we are beginning to heal and move on. There is no point in blaming or rehashing, dwelling on the past. The Love was always there, even though the way it was shown was dysfunctional and hurtful many times.

I have tried to be different with my children, but I know I have made too many mistakes. I keep the lines of communication open and continue to try to do better.
 
(((Voodoobaby)))I'm so sorry that you, too, experienced 'just existing'. I remember telling my Dad at about 12-13 that "no one ever talked to me." I know he felt bad, but being a minister and working another job just didn't leave a lot of time. He 'assumed' that my mother was 'mothering' us, when in fact she was caught up in her books, or TV. Now, it is the computer, and has been since they became a household item 30 years or so ago. My Dad said she divorced him and married the computer when it came to live with them.

Since 2004, I have been their caretaker, and watched my mom shut him out, just like she did us. He died in December, and I believe partially from a broken heart. He was realizing that he had been married for 62 years to someone who NEVER gave back, or took the time to talk to him. We got very close, and for that I am thankful.

Mom, now a widow, is doing fine, and seems to have accepted and dealt with his death. She also 'came out' of what we thought was dementia, and is sometimes more 'on' than I am. I have accepted that she is the way she is and I treat her like my Dad would want. She's fine with no emotion, and prefers it that way.

I'm happy that you found this place, many of us suffer from the neglect of being 'no one' in the family, and just grew up without emotional skills. I have found them through therapy, and from the desire to NOT be like my mother.

You will find acceptance here, and I hope it helps!

Blessings & Peace to you,

AKJ
 
The invisible injury

voodoobaby, I am glad you found this thread and more importantly, found it helpful. I too, learned to be no trouble for anyone.

My mother also grew up during depression, and she was depressed with 5 daughters. She was divorced. Since I was the youngest and they divorced when I was 1, I did not know that he was not my father. He picked my sisters up and took them places, but usually not me. Early on, she was having an affair with my biological father so she was seemingly more happy. My sisters resented a new baby in the house, and I knew that from the start.

By the time I was 5, my mother was depressed and there were many conflicts between her and my sisters, often violent and involving the police coming. I was that little kid hiding behind the door or at the top of the steps. When all the commotion was over, I don't remember anybody comforting me so I really don't know what I did. By the time I started school, she was becoming depressed and often did not get out of bed. My sisters think I got all of the love and attention. I think their view is distorted, as is mine about the world. Their father was an alcoholic and died at 60. My mother was an alcoholic in the making. I was very neglected. I did have some bratty behavior when young, I'm sure it was seeking any attention, even negative. So I got the name brat from my family of origin.

By age 11, my mother was such a drunk that I was put in orphanage. At 13, an older sister got custody of me. She had 3 small children, and there was a non spoken agreement that I could live there as long as I was no trouble. Don't ask for anything. Not permitted to participate in after school activities like track or the prom, and if I ever did get in trouble (usually coming home late), I was grounded and given the silent treatment. Even the 3 children under 5 were not allowed to talk to me during high school years. I always knew that if my legal father had not have died, and I did not get social security, I would not be there. It was a nice little chunk of change if I remained invisible. I don't ever remember being hugged.

I married a bi-polar addict at 17 and pregnant. Of course I did not know this. I just tried not to be any trouble, and tried to be very compliant so that he didn't get angry and hit me, which started during pregnancy.

This is where I want to change focus from my being emotionally neglected, to my daughter being emotionally neglected.

By the time my daughter was a few months old, I had adapted to all of my husbands demands. My house was spotless. He would go nuts if toys were out and the newspaper was laying on the coffee table when he came home. He worked construction and would come in anywhere from 6-10 pm. I was to have his dinner within minutes as he did not want to shower before he ate. He also preferred our daughter be in bed. He often did not see her for days at a time. I remember washing windows with this baby on my hip. I was nervous, emotionally unavailable, and sadly, neglectful. She was clean, fed, etc. I just remember reading to her and my head being elsewhere. Very sad to admit. On top of this, she witnessed a lot of abuse. Although she was never the target, this was very damaging. After six yrs, we divorced and violence really escalated. She is 36 and has ptsd, is bi-polar, borderline personality disorder.

When she was 10 I remarried and we had 2 more daughters. This was too much for her. She wanted her mom all to herself for obvious reasons. Things were never enough for her. It became humanly impossible to meet her needs, even if I had not had 2 more children. We (parents), created this. She was genetically prone to bi-polar. The rest is a result of emotional neglect.

My second husband is very emotionally neglectful. Yet I got to grow, to heal, to find out who I am. Most of all, I had the opportunity to be a great mom, and he financially supported and rarely raised his voice. (He has his own history of alcoholic parents-I did not understand at time). He was always calm. I sought out a man that would never create chaos. Good thing-with 3 daughters.

He is a good man. I read everything I could on parenting, went to counseling and Co-D and ACOA groups. I did a great deal of recovering but addressed from another stand point than trauma, which is much deeper. Had a really good life. Yet not a day has ever passed that I haven't wished that my oldest daughter had the same opportunity to be shown love that my younger 2 have.

So much comes into play as to why parents do what they do. It is no excuse and does not negate the pain. I feel the pain from my own family of origin and the pain that I have caused. I'm in mid 50's now. I wish that we knew then what we know now. I wish we had the resources but we didn't. My oldest daughter is one of those people that "always about me" and "hows this going to effect me". That comes from emotional neglect. I love her as much as my others, I was not free to express it the same.

Whatever it is that we feel, it is ours and we feel it for a reason. The best we can hope and shoot for is that one day we will be ready to let go of that pain, that it will no longer serve a purpose. We are all lovable and worthy. For some of us, we have to remind ourselves regularly and it is work to re-direct our thoughts. It really does take work and plans to set ourselves up to be around people who appreciate our presence and show love, and learn to receive it back.

Anybody reading this thread-I am guessing can relate in some way. Emotional neglect can be the silent killer when it comes to forms of abuse.
 
Ms Spock-Me too. I have gone off medication for several months. It has been very positive. I feel more, and while it can be painful, it is more helpful. I am not suggesting this for others. I think its a big decision to be made with doctors. For me, I needed it.

I can see why I have allowed physical abuse-it is attention and can be confused with love, when we know that love and neglect are not compatible.
 
The bonus of the medication was that I learnt how to manage better. I stopped having 20 plus years of nightmares and so many panic attacks. I acquired skills.

The downside of being off the medication is learning how to deal with all the underlying stuff. I am finding it hard to deal with life stone cold sober without medication as my psychiatrist put it last Tuesday. It is going to take time. I am dealing with complex trauma and I am finding that challenging.

All the childhood stuff of feeling so lonely and apart from people is really hard at the moment.
 
I understand. While I am finding it positive most of the time, I am finding it most difficult at times. I dont know if it is from complex trauma, which I think I have (dont remember if T specified, but it is early childhood.)

I am finding that I do not have patience with things, I am getting angry, and I am not sure that I will not have to go back on anti depressants. For awhile, things will be going along relatively smooth and I am able to cope. Then it seems that even with my best attempts to prevent, one negative life event after another will happen and accumulated, and then my mood becomes erratic over events. Some insignificant even will put me over the top. I have been in this place since last night when I talked to my daughter. It is as though it feels like she is always trying to run my life and I take her comments very critical.

I am feeling very fragile right now. Not sure what to do. I am considering medication again, but also feel like I need to ride this out a bit.
 
Off meds for a few months, I am remembering things that happened many years ago, some not something that would cause trauma, but certainly discomfort emotionally and physically. I emotionally neglected myself because of shame I guess. I was never good at asking for what I need, often did not know what I needed, so just pulled self up by bootstraps and went forward. I don't know why I am thinking of things now.
 
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