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Childhood Feeling Guilty Hurting Abuser

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I am lying to my mom about what my councelor told me because I don't what her to feel guilty for what she has done to me. How messed up is that? I am learning that the little I remember of my childhood doesn't make since. I always took it for what it was until I found PTSD. My dad knows what she told him which isn't half of what happened. He has told me repeatedly that she is his wife and he will not allow me to talk about her that way. The rest of my extended family thinks my mom was amazing because all she had to do was whisper in my ear to straighten me up when I was little. Because I was scared to death. Then when I was older I started acting out and making poor dating choices, it was how could I turn out so bad with amazing parents. I don't even know what I went through right now.
 
It's okay. The guilt is false guilt and I promise that as you get stronger and know what was done to you, you will no longer feel guilty. Taking the first few steps of independence away from the traps set for you by abusive people, even coworkers or strangers, is the hardest part.

It does get easier with practice and time.

The book by Alice Miller, _The Body Never Lies_ and Pete Walker's books are those I recommend, but you can find much of what you need for free online from these writers.

Such as here is a list of quotes from Miller's book and you can preview the book in an eReader: The Body Never Lies Quotes by Alice Miller

Pete Walker offers an amazing website and host of most helpful resources. Many people have found his gentle approach most helpful, as he has himself needed his own advice and also as a therapist. Pete Walker, M.A. Psychotherapy

I prefer to use his steps. They have helped me with my PTSD more than any other resource besides this forum: Pete Walker, M.A. Psychotherapy

You needed love at a young age. Denied that, there is no reason to feel any kind of guilt over what happened. It is not your fault. You didn't cause it, you cannot fix it (or them) and all you can do now is help yourself.

I, too, was raised to fear, not respect, my parents. Respect is gradually earned and is freely chosen. Fear is inflicted and leaves a permanent damaged mark on the life of the child. It is always abuse to inflict fear. Children NEED a sense of safety at home, as their #1 basic need for safety. This is not a luxury. It is a need.
 
A lot of us have been through false guilt and pressure to cover for our abusers. When I first started trying to speak out I could barely even write down what had happened to me because my hand would start to go limp against my will when I tried. That's how strong the psychological hold was on me. Like Muse said, as time goes forward and you keep dealing with this that will pass. I'm glad that you're seeing a counselor. You need that impartial voice to help get through this. Abusers will deliberately invoke those feelings of false guilt to try to keep the control.
 
I am lying to my mom about what my councelor told me because I don't what her to feel guilty fo...
Well, my dad had that power too, and my mom would not want to listen as soon as I complained about him. Yet, I can not blame her, she herself was abused.
And feeling guilty for an abuser: boy, I did that way too often. Why do we feel sorry for someone that causes us pain? There is something wrong in our brains when we do that because the opposite reaction would be the correct reaction.

I have felt sorry for people that have abused me. What did they do? They only intensified their abuse AND attempted to mislabel my human compassion as something entirely different, all very calculating.
 
Why do we feel sorry for someone that causes us pain?
Because they use any opening they can to control us. And with children, we learn to sympathize with our abusers. It is the only way to keep sane. Some feel guilt, others completely identify with our abusers, others funnel their anger into the outside world..... lots of different ways of dealing with it.

BTW, my oldest son went to counseling, and he came back to me with stuff that he thought was horrible that I did. I love him. I heard him out, I took responsibility for the things that I understood, told him I didn't understand the stuff that didn't resonate with me. But I apologized so that he could move forward in any way that he needed to.

Love doesn't thrive on gag orders.
 
It's okay. The guilt is false guilt and I promise that as you get stronger and know what was done to you, y...

The guilt is false? I would like to find out more about that, because I do that all the time or should I say I used to do that all the time. Forgiving the abuser is the one dangerous condition that could cost the victim their own life and I have made that mistake before.

After I had forgiven such predators they only returned stronger with more aggression and more furor. What is a victim to do?

I think sometimes the victim may forgive because they are afraid that the aggressor otherwise will hurt them or make them pay for attempting to avoid the predator. From my father to my ex to the persons that stalk me: they all use anger in order to force me to forgive them. I know now that I will not do that ever again but I have paid a high price for doing so in the past.
 
You're describing Stockholm Syndrome symptoms or Fawn in the Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn.

Once you are free and living far away from the abusers, you won't feel the Fawn response as readily. It's a response from feeling trapped or hostage. You don't have a choice when you are stuck with dangerous types or risky people. I hope you get out and on your own two feet.
 
Yes. I still do this..! I think part of the reason for this is that my mother isn't your typical bad guy. In fact, in some ways she's an admirable figure. When I was little, I remember everyone talking about how smart and how strong she was. I idolized her. Even though I had extraordinary behavioral/emotional problems all through my childhood that should have indicated to a professional that something was seriously wrong, my mother was so good at denying problems that when she lied about me on the child symptom checklists, she spoke with truth and the psychiatrists never suspected. My mother, a pillar of the community! And my father, ever the hard worker...never at home and totally oblivious.

I don't tell her because I am too afraid of her feeling hurt. As an adult I've come to understand that my mother is mentally ill and I have compassion for her situation. In fact, everyone in my family is mentally ill. I don't want to add to her/their stress and pain...because I'm the who will have to pick up the pieces, meet the demands, suffer her ill temper etc... It's my job to fix everything, to take on everything...to be the whipping boy. My mother demands my attention, and I can't say no. It's warped. I'm still so afraid of what she thinks of me, and I'm a solid adult at this point, but I get this feeling she'll up and die if I don't take care of her. One day I can be thinking about how she was a better mother than I gave her credit for - how it wasn't really that bad, and the next contemplating the seriously messed-up things she's done and said to me... like brainwashing me for years into thinking I was defective and needed to be totally dependent on her. That sort of stuff.

I'll say this though... I moved out of my childhood house 9 months ago and in with my boyfriend (who is both empathetic & supportive) and every month that I have been away, I have gained a little bit more ability to be honest with my mother. At first I cried and cried. I had this terrible sense of separation anxiety and wondered if I would break my parent's hearts by 'living in sin'. Flash to now and: Two weeks ago I told my mother that I remembered being sexually abused many times, by many people, for certain, and that I remembered that she told me to never tell anyone, because it would destroy the family. I worked my way up to it; I was half way out the door when the words came out of my mouth - and yeah, I ran away. But so what? I got it out, and that's something. In the past, every time I would be honest with her about a childhood trauma, I would end up taking it back later because I would second guess myself, warring with myself over whether or not I was purposefully trying to "destroy my family and hurt her" (reading this you can probably see the direct link between what she said to me, and the role I've now adopted in our family, but I could not see the connection until recently). The point is, immature or not, I had the opportunity to run away and go somewhere else.You won't be safe until you're in a safe place. When you are in a safe place and ready, I believe the revelations will come to you and with them a healthy sense of individuation from your family members.
 
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