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Flashback At Work Today, Now Have A Meeting Tomorrow.

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Wyakin

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As the title says I had a flashback at work today. I had one at lunchtime when I was at home then got up and dragged myself back down to work, I thought it had passed. I ended up speaking to my friend in the staff room but something triggered another flashback.

It was only myself and my friend present and she knows more than anyone about what is going on with me. She helped me through it, her hands were the first thing I sensed when I came back. I was terrified. Apparently a couple of people came in while I was having it but she moved them on quickly.

Unfortunately my manager has found out about it and now wants to speak to me tomorrow before work. They made it clear at both my meetings I am not allowed to have an affect on or upset the other staff. I was told off for having two flashbacks in work prior to my first HR meeting and I was told it is something I cannot let happen again.

I am really worried about tomorrow now. I thought the flashback had passed. I don't know what more I can do, I tried to stop it, I tried so hard to ground myself but it took over. I am ashamed and embarrassed, I really don't know what to do.
 
Where do you work? First, see how the meeting goes. Then, I would recommend doing a little research about the American Disabilities Act. You may find that certain laws protect you from being fired or disciplined by an employer who "regards" you as having a disability based on how they treat you (for example, if they force you to take time off for a back injury because they think it makes you less productive at your job, even if you doctor says your back is ok enough for work). If you have been diagnosed with PTSD, this may protect you in that case as well. I am not super knowledgeable about this law myself. I just happened to learn about it by chance a couple times, in a pre-employment training, and when I was having a medical issue in school. Do not mention this ADA law to your employer tomorrow though. See how it goes, and make sure you have your ducks in a row, and try to handle this on your own, before you try to do anything about ADA. But I think you should know what it says so you can assess your manager critically and be certain that you rights as an employee are not violated.

The way your manager has responded does not seem fair. You probably do need to learn to see your flashbacks coming, and learn how to isolate yourself in a quiet place, and avoid upsetting coworkers. Your coworkers do deserve the effort of keeping your personal troubles to yourself. But your manager needs to help you too. When you have this meeting, try to ask her for practical suggestions. Where is a place I can go when you feel an attack coming on? Can I break up my lunch break and take smaller breaks during the workday? Can I use sick leave to take a half day if I am falling apart and if I can find someone to cover me? This way, you can show her you are willing to adapt and perform better for her.

I do not think it is a sign of a good manager if she reprimands you for having a panic attack. That is a cruel thing to do. Intimidation is no way to stop your panic attacks. However, I think the best thing you can do for yourself, is show her you are willing to work toward a solution, and ask for her assistance. Sounding whiny will not help you. Try to show a can-do attitude.

As for grounding...I found that a quick walk outside, or running cold water on my hands in the bathroom, or taking the long way around the building while routing paperwork, and listening to various music at my desk (from nonverbal meditation music to Queen, depending on whether I need to calm down or wake up) helped me get through an internship last fall. When I really felt like falling apart, I used to work on a project in the control room, which is a locked room with no windows that usually only has one other person inside at a time, or is empty. I would also sometimes hide at the bottom of a stairwell, or in the restroom, for a few minutes at a time to catch my breath. I am very good at faking normalcy, so no one ever noticed. Also, pressure tends to keep me focused, and I was very busy the whole time. My worst flashbacks happen on the weekends when my workload lets up. They were never as bad as yours in front of anyone. You sound like you are not so lucky as me. But maybe you can think of similar ways to cope.

What is the worst that can happen? You may need to find another job. Give your manager a chance, but if you feel her treatment of you is unfair, or the work environment is too troubling, you deserve to find yourself a better job in that case.

The best that can happen, is you and your manager will work out a solution to help you adapt.

Whatever happens will fall somewhere between these two extremes. You can probably handle either situation, or anything in between, if you focus on the immediate concerns and practical solutions. Try to feel optimistic about that, and try to have a positive attitude at your meeting. Also, do not apologize excessively. Say something more like, "Your concerns are valid, and I am also unhappy about how my personal troubles are affecting my coworkers, and I would appreciate your assistance to help me behave more professionally." And any negative feedback she gives, try to avoid taking it too personally. Whatever she says really will not be a personal attack, because she does not know you personally. Accept that she may not understand or respond in the best way, because she probably doesn't know any better. Try to figure out what you need and respectfully ask for support. This can still work for you without anyone needing to understand the nature of your condition.

Try to stay calm and get some rest this evening. If nothing else, that will help you reset and have a calm, professional meeting in the morning.

Good luck!
 
I am sorry that you are faced with this, but I think think that now is the time to be logical. It really pisses me off that you tried to get back to work and not let your health stop you, and the people around you treat your health like it's a choice, and tell you not to be ill - that's ridiculous and they are arseholes. But that won't help you at your meeting tomorrow.

If you have a contract of employment, then you have rights connected to poor health. If you are in a union, then I would speak to your bosses and say that you don't feel comfortable attending the meeting without a union representative present.

Depending on what your work is and the responsibilities involved, it may be that they feel the risk is too great for you to continue until your health improves. If this is the case, and you have a contract, then (in the UK at least), you are entitled to sick pay etc., but they couldn't fire you just for being ill.

Another thing to consider, is that you don't have to go into work or to this meeting - you could phone in and say that you are unwell, and book an emergency appointment with your doctor, who may sign you off work sick.

But it may also be that the meeting is more sympathetic to your needs than you are expecting. But if they put you under pressure in any way, my advice would be to say simply that you feel you need to seek legal advice, and leave the meeting,
 
I'm so sorry this happened! It just stinks. I think the more you can go into the meeting with solutions on how you will handle future flashbacks, the better. However, they can't just fire you or take negative action for having one any more than they could for someone who had a seizure at work.

If you are in the US, you can call the ADA technical assistance center in your area and they can connect you to local agencies that could help work out a non-adversarial solution for you and your boss. Also, if the worst happens, and they continue to discriminate against you, they can help you find people to enforce your rights. You can find out more at: http://adata.org/national-network
 
@JBS thank you for the advice. I am in the Uk but I appreciate the technical side of things to. I do my best to keep my issues and my work separate. I currently have the option of going home (I live where I work) which is something I have done several times when I knew I was starting to struggle or previously when I have been overcome at work I have run for the disabled bathroom.

I am really doing my best to be myself and when I am struggling taking myself away so as not to upset others. Today took me by surprise. I am practicing grounding and beginning to work out what works for me and what doesn't. I have used it successfully several times lately but I am still at the very beginning of all of this.

Thank you so much for the recommendations in the last main paragraph. I will do my best to think of it tomorrow when I am in the meeting.

I agree @Meadowsweet, I think that is what upset me about it so much. I work so hard and I will push myself to do my job and do it well. I enjoy my job and will do whatever it takes to keep going in. I am not in a union unfortunately but I do have my contract to hand. I will go in tomorrow because I hate letting people down but I think I will hope they are being sympathetic and asking how they can help rather than telling me off. What bothered me also was she told my friend to tell me she wants to meet with me tomorrow rather than contacting me herself. It is not down to my friend to tell me things like that.

You are right @Justmehere I will try to think of some solutions to go in with tomorrow. Thank you.
 
@Wyakin, that's ok if you're not in a union, but if you're in the UK, you have employment rights. Being ill is not a matter for ANY disciplinary action or warning. So, if they try to do that, you really must try to at least say that you will seek further advice, and then leave the meeting.

You will have a 'citizens advice bureau' near you http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/. You can make an appointment and they will be able to advise you on the practical and legal side of your situation.

On the other hand, if they want to meet to find solutions for you to continue working, then it may be that that will be helpful. I'm just saying go prepared, and don't let them take advantage because you are vulnerable. You have a whole system out there that is on your side. And of course, people here are rooting for you, and you can be proud of yourself for the effort that you are putting in to healing.

Let us know how it goes.
 
If you're in the UK have a look at the ACAS website, they have very good employment advice. The Equalities Act protects you from discrimination and if you've had a mental health diagnoses for a year or more it would be considered a disability for the purposes of the Act. Your employer needs to consider making reasonable adjustment for your condition which would include agreeing what happens if you feel triggered, providing a quiet place for you if you need it etc. it would be worth asking for a referral to occupational health to assess what you might need.

If the meeting tomorrow is anything other than an informal check in to see how you're doing you can ask for the meeting to be suspended. If they are looking at any kind of formal process they must give you notice and give you the opportunity to be accompanied by a union rep or by a colleague so please don't feel pressured to agree anything there and then - ask for an adjournment so that you can seek advice. You may find that the previous HR meetings were held outside of process, which doesn't reflect well on them. Do ask for a copy of the policy they are following in holding these meetings with you so that you're aware of your legal rights. Again ACAS have a very good telephone advice service. Good luck.
 
The meeting went a completely different way to what I was expecting. My manager is so supportive when taken away from the head of HR. She told me prior to talking in depth that what we were discussing was completely confidential and would not go any further.

We discussed why the flashback happened as it did and she agreed I did everything I could after the first one and I could not have known the second was coming. She explained her concerns and we discussed them, I promised to keep her up to date with what is going on. I am confident now that she trusts me to tell her when something changes. I told her about struggling on Sunday and I told her about the different types of flashbacks I get. I think that helped her understand little.

She already knew I was sexually assaulted but nothing more than that. I have always had a good relationship with her and up until recently I trusted her a lot. Today I realised that the walls I had built had excluded her as well when really she just wants to support me. When she said she felt I was ready to say something and she was prepared to listen I didn't know what to do, I have never told anyone out loud but she was right I was ready to open up.

I told her there were three men, I told her I was raped, I told her about the violence. She asked some questions but gave me plenty of time in between to calm down and respond as I could. I told her about my guilt and shame. She told me it was normal. She had looked up PTSD and rape as she already suspected that is what had happened. We talked about all sorts, including my brother. I cried once but she came round the table and said, "You're not a huggy person and neither am I" but she put her hand on my back and helped me through the tears.

We discussed things and chatted about things. She asked if I was still self harming and I said no. I did not say that I still get urges but I fight them off. When she said to me that she finds knowing what happened easier than knowing I am hurting myself I nearly cried again. I hate upsetting people and I hadn't realised how much I had hurt her.

We also discussed suicide. She knows I wouldn't do it because I have been on the other side of suicide and I would not put my friends and family through that. However we did reach the conclusion that if it wasn't for that experience I would probably be suicidal. If I could up and disappear without affecting or upsetting anyone at this moment in time I would just to get away from the flashbacks. I am comforted knowing she now believes me when I say that is not something she needs to worry about.

After the three hour meeting I went home for a nap, I was very emotionally drained. She has really helped me and taken a really load off of me. I really feel like she understands more about me now.
 
I was so angry when I read your first post @Wyakin and then so relieved to read your update on how the meeting went. Its so true as others have said...if only it was as easy as "not allowing" an illness to affect our lives. More people should do this! Right?! Im sorry that you had to hear that to begin with, but thrilled that the meeting went well and she was very supportive.
 
@silkleaves Thank you, I think it would have gone differently if the head of HR was present but it was just me and my manager, we have worked together for five years and always got on really well. She genuinely cares about me and I had forgotten that by lumping her in with people I didn't trust. I feel a bit guilty for pushing her away when all she was doing was worrying.
 
That's really good news, and I hope that with that support in place, it will help your recovery. I'm so so pleased for you. It is good to hear a good news story.
 
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