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Childhood Found a way to stop trying to determine if what happened 'counted' as abuse?

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If you were abused as a child, do you ever keep reflecting on it over and over and try to determine if it...
I’ve thought about this a lot recently. A few weeks ago my therapist shared with me that she had been through some of the same abuse that I had and I immediately thought “that’s so awful! See- what happened to you wasn’t that bad. How could someone have done that to her??” And then I thought about it again and realized that she had literally just said the exact same things I’d been through and somehow I was able to easily identify them as abuse for her, but not for myself.

A lot of times people will ask you what you’d say to a friend if they were going through the same thing. That’s a nice idea and all, but it doesn’t actually exist. Finding someone who was actually willing to show me that I wasn’t the only one made it a lot easier to realize that what happened was wrong, it was abuse, and it was really f*cked up but not my fault.
 
Do I honestly believe that I am somehow some kind of exception? That I’m the only child ever created who somehow deserved something different to every other child?

I like your technique of trying to go through it logically, and also putting another kid in your place and realizing if it would not be okay to happen to another kid, its not okay that it happened to you.

Life is too complicated to be trying to dissect every single thing.

That is a good point. I have a huge tendency to try to dissect and figure things out, I think its the OCD. But life is so complex and its impossible to figure everything out.

I am sure you did not ask for what was done to you, abuse whether it’s mental, sexual, physical is a power play. The abuser enjoys the power they have over the “victim” and keeping them quiet is part of that power play. Lessening what was done to the victim to confuse them is even further abuse to me.

This makes a lot of sense. And minimizing it was another tactic of my abusers, further confusing me. Its hard to realize other people can have such power over your mind and perceptions.
 
Sometimes I'm not really sure if I want it to "count" as abuse or not? Like, if it doesn't count then I can just stick my fingers in my ears and pretend it didn't happen, or I don't have to feel bad about it.

I never thought of it like this, but yeah, I think sometimes I don't want it to 'count' too, like if it doesn't count than somehow its all my fault which means I'm in control and I can get myself out of this.

Is this a symptom of avoidance (I am guessing)?

Interesting, what do you mean by avoidance?

I guess I get to where I'm like okay.. what is the expectation for me then? Which is it? Am I going to have a life where I'm only miserable 85% of the time?

I wanted to quote your whole post here and just say "YES. THIS." But, I'm confused about the quoting rules and have gotten in trouble before, so I won't do that. I just wanted to say that your whole post just felt like my own thoughts and just made me feel like someone out there 'gets' exactly what its like, so thank you for posting this.
 
There was also a lot of comparing going on. Both of my parents talked about what was done to them and how some of that was abuse and look how much better I was treated. They would point out stories of abuse on the media and say how that was abuse and what right did I have to complain about anything, when I had it so much better.

Oh my gosh, I can totally relate to this. My family was just like this--pointing out other abuse, comparing, etc--and then saying "aren't you so glad we're not like this?" when they were doing different but just as harmful things.
I like your idea of shifting focus to the impact--which is concrete--rather than whether it was abuse or not--which is kinda like quicksand

Finding someone who was actually willing to show me that I wasn’t the only one made it a lot easier to realize that what happened was wrong, it was abuse

This makes a lot of sense. I know if I knew someone else who had been through what I have been through I would totally label it as abuse/traumatic, there would be no question. For some reason there's just a question when it comes to me, and maybe thats due to 'brainwashing' by my abuser.
 
I know as a child I had to deny that anything was happening to me. And my abusers denied anything was happening to me. And I never called it abuse. Denial was one of my coping mechanisms. Denial kept me sane. Even as an adult early on in my healing journey, denial kept me safe and at a distance from the abuse.

I no longer struggle with denial and therefore no longer question whether it was abuse. I would say it took me a good ten years to come out of denial.
 
Even as an adult early on in my healing journey, denial kept me safe and at a distance from the abuse.

This makes a lot of sense. Its difficult to get out of denial when we're raised to live in denial by our abusers. And until we're stable enough to handle it, some forms of denial may help us from being overwhelmed as we're trying to heal. Thanks for these insights.
 
Abuse is such a broad term but I always believed that abuse was extreme sexual, physical and emotional in your face sort of thing. Like it was absolutely obvious to what was causing your pain as a child. But abuse comes in so many different forms and shapes and each child is different in how trauma effects them. With all the research that has been coming out about childhood trauma, the “lack of” is a form of abuse and being in a very unpredictable environment is often traumatic for children also.

Each one of us is born with a certain temperament which can predispose a child to be easily traumatized from circumstances that wouldn’t effect another child at all. There’s many variables that come into play on whether a child is more resilient and can come from such horrific trauma but not suffer from PTSD. What is traumatizing to you may not be traumatizing to a sibling in the same household.

I’ve really struggled with this because I have DID along with other comorbid mental illnesses but I wasn’t severely abused in the way I “should” have been to have this diagnosis. Does that make sense?

I had to do a lot of research into child development to understand why I experience all of this now when my best friend was severely beaten and abused emotionally and she doesn’t have PTSD. It took awhile for me to understand that there are so many different kinds of abuse including the silent ones. Of course there are obvious messed up things my parents did and didn’t do that is easy to understand why I developed so many illnesses but none of it was “bad enough” to have DID according to many opinions of professionals and that I read about on the internet. I was diagnosed by several psychiatrists and therapists that agree 100% with the diagnosis so that validated that what I have gone through my whole life was “enough” trauma.

I have such a strong system of protectors that have kept many emotions and feelings out of consciousness but I have had some of my fragmented parts show me and told me just a few times glimpses into events that have happened to me as a baby and toddler that I know crap has been repressed. But, I don’t think about it or want to even go there and I can’t because those parts are holding everything so tight so hell, keep on holding it because I don’t want to know.

One of the many things I suffer from is eating disorders and a couple different therapists had told me they have gone through similar trauma (including rape when I was a teenager but I do remember that but have never had any emotional response to it). For me, when my therapist told me this, I couldn’t help but feel judged because if they have a career and don’t have PTSD then I shouldn’t right? I hate being compared to other people who have gone through “similar” traumas because no two people are the same so we experience life different even if they are really similar in how the trauma manifests itself.

My reality is extremely real and painful and I’ve accepted that nothing about humans can be put into pretty little boxes. I don’t know if anyone has heard of Gabor Mate but he explains trauma very well and I find comfort in listening to his YouTube channel. Anyway, I’m so sorry for all the pain everyone is going through because it is not living.
 
If you were abused as a child, do you ever keep reflecting on it over and over and try to determine if it...
I haven't read all the responses but the thing that helped me most was EMDR. I had this compulsion to replay movies and then obsess over the reality and try to discredit it by finding holes in my storyline. Then it would start over. It sucked. I'm sorry you are going through that. Hang in there!
 
I never thought of it like this, but yeah, I think sometimes I don't want it to 'count' too, like if it do...

Avoidance....

Just my thoughts, forgive me if they don’t line up with you exactly....

No abuse means

No criterion A trauma, which means

No PTSD, which means (could mean)

No mental illness, which means (could mean)

I am fine.

This would be the ultimate in avoidance (ptsd symptom), denying that anything is wrong.

Again, just my thoughts. It may not fit you at all.
 
I’ve really struggled with this because I have DID along with other comorbid mental illnesses but I wasn’t severely abused in the way I “should” have been to have this diagnosis. Does that make sense?

Oh my gosh yes. I am always thinking this same thing!/

Really your whole post was great and helpful, thanks for writing it!
 
and then obsess over the reality and try to discredit it by finding holes in my storyline

I could really relate to this. We have been off EMDR for a while cause I got unstable, but we're going back to it soon.
 
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