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Have you ever told a friend offline you were struggling with suicidal throughts?

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devastated you would be if the shoe was reversed, that it would destroy you if they did it, or at least profoundly impact on your life.
I think I would be more devastated if they chose not to confide in me and actually acted upon it.

For myself, I feel it is the highest honour for someone to trust me with such delicate information. What are friends for besides being able to speak about the unspeakable?

I feel I would be crushed if I felt someone had killed themselves without having anyone to confide in. That is just so goddamm lonely...
 
It depends on the quality of the relationship or friendship,
No, not really. I mean, I work with people who are suicidal. I have also taken ASIST courses and Mental Health First Aid Courses that speak about how to deal with suicidal thoughts in others. I don't think it is about the friendship element or how deep the friendship goes. Even professionally, I believe people who are feeling these kinds of thoughts should have a place and an audience to express them honestly without being punished.
 
It was easiest for me in the past to tell people on a forum specific to the subject, the support was immense and overwhelming, far better than any irl 'friend' I ever told.
 
I think I understand, @shimmerz , and think it is wonderful you are trained in those skills. I do believe your deep personal understanding, and genuineness to help, would be sensed by others. That would give people courage to have a voice.

I suppose looking back to the present, I see it somewhat individualized to history and temperament, and a host of features, including the process for me of reaching out or speaking about what is secret being loaded with triggers itself. And whether it's more a 'male-mentality' (loosely termed, that of being find a solution), or seeking someone to listen (more characteristic of females- but not me). For me, when I first spoke to a professional though admittedly didn't confess SI proper, I felt so bad I went and attempted. (He didn't 'care', in any sense). Decades later when it resurfaced I contacted a help line and over 3 days of communication felt appreciably worse. Idk if they cared or not-they only asked questions? But every answer made me feel worse, because there was no feedback. So I had only 2 choices: silence, or somewhere else. I think that's how I ended up here originally.

But then, in my mind, I realize that's also a heavy burden to drop on a friend. And there is always risk of having it used against you, or shame. But in a way, it's not the same kind of shame as simply, 'what will that person think of me now?', though that's included, but for me rather, 'what do I think of me now, now that someone else irl knows/ is a witness?' Because Idk about others, but by that point I've been too far run down to have the energy or strength to care about shame, proper. Who cares what people think of you if in your mind you're not going to be there for long, anyway.

So a bit of: those who have the most qualifications to give words can result in more damage (to me), but those unqualified might be damaged by my words. :(

I think however if one survives telling a friend, and that friend is a real friend/ trustworthy, the dynamic usually includes enough history and honesty to not BS, but also be seen as something other than just the totality of SI, or it's connotation. And that helps me to see myself within a context of not just being defined as that is all there is to me, or ever will be. And it can be done within the typical dyadic of friendship- laughing, or angry or sad or whatever emotions arise. A lot can be said with few words with a friend, because there isn't BS or appearances. There is trust in them and their words, because they are said with knowledge of who or how you are.

I heard it said, "we would never say 'you are chickenpox' , we would say 'you have chickenpox' ". (Real) friends do that, and I believe so do people who care, including expert professionals who care.

Even professionally, I believe people who are feeling these kinds of thoughts should have a place and an audience to express them honestly without being punished.

Yes. ^^ I suspect why people pre-suppose a friend will be less likely to, too. Or they wouldn't call them 'friend'.
 
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Yes, but none of my friends are normies, lol. They all understand the struggle because they’ve been there in one capacity or another. I don’t get dropped and they don’t freak out on me.
 
@Justmehere are you thinking about telling a friend? Which of your friends would you choose and why? How do you think they would respond? Do you think telling them might help?
 
Yes, it's hard to know who to tell, isn't it. Sorry those two friends weren't the right ones.

I'm trying to think who I've told and why... I think the only ppl I've told were ppl that I knew would be "okay" with it.

People that I'd previously talked to about topics like "depression" and "PTSD".

The friends that said that they could relate (eg depression) were the ones I felt comfortable talking to the more vulnerable stuff about, like suicidalness.

It's so many years ago now, that I have to guess this - but I think I probably spoke to them about it generally first. Probably told them that I struggle with suicidalness sometimes, rather than tell them in the middle of a suicidal episode. I think I would've felt too vulnerable talking about the suicidalness *while it was there*, at first.

Over time, I found I was able to trust them and could reach out and say "I'm struggling with suicidalness right now".

I know I can trust them and that they won't "make a big drama out of it". If they can tell I'm fighting the urge successfully, they just support me. They also know and trust me that if I can feel myself slipping, I'll accept help and allow them to take me to crisis care/ inpatient care.

My suicidalness is often a crisis reaction - it's like an emergency "make it stop" button in my head. So usually, those close friends talking to me, hearing me, soothing me, letting me cry, is enough for the suicidal urge to pass.

I'm still not *good at* reaching out for help tho. I am like a cat that will retreat and hide and lick its wounds for ages... it takes quite a long time for me to realise that "reaching out" would be a good idea.

Are there any good crisis care/ suicide support places around where you live? Or good suicide crisis phone lines? I know some phone lines are a bit crappy, but the good ones are quite helpful, I find. Just having someone listen when you are in crisis can be really soothing. Sometimes it's easier, if it's not a friend, because you know you're not being a "burden" on the person that's dealing with it professionally.

I do hope you think of some IRL friends you can share this with too, tho.

:hug:
 
Late to the conversation.
This might be long and rambling and also likely TMI since I've had a very intimate relationship with suicidal ideation and actions.

I have a friend that I told once. It turned out to be too much of a burden on our friendship. He cared and that caring actually ripped our friendship to shreds. I've gently removed myself from his life. That hurt me probably more than it hurt him. He didn't notice. I was painfully aware of the loss. It was a hard lesson learned.

But it reinforced what I already knew.

For me, I'm a lot like Ronin: wanting to talk mostly post` attempt.
Pre-attempt?
There is a push/pull going on in my brain most days. Yeah, even the good ones. So I try to write it out here. I will try to diffuse it by talking about it here. It gets bad at times and my writing goes dark. Really dark My therapist and a couple of folks here figured out (before I did) that as long as I'm writing about it, just come along with me for the ride. Writing about it actually keeps me alive.

I've scared myself: dissociating and start going through the motions. I do more than plan. I rehearse. In those instances: I try to force myself to reach out to my therapist post. I've reached out to a 'crisis line' or two but I've found them to be as useless as talking to the wall. And no, having someone try to shame me into life isn't the solution. The way I see it, I wasn't supposed to be here and I'd be setting things right. The reason I'm here at all is sheer stubbornness.

There's a person or two here that I now know in person. Knowing someone in person changes how I feel about this place and that connection become more... important. I know that seems kind of obvious. But here, on this site, I've already said exactly what is going on in my head. There's no hiding. The difference however between my friend that I no longer see or talk to and the people I know here, is that if that person is here, it's likely they understand more deeply depression, PTSD and suicidal ideation- because they themselves live(d) it as well.

I was accused of 'seeking attention' on one of my attempts. Problem is, I was dead serious, but I was ill informed. The physical ACT of saying 'I'm suicidal?' nah. I don't think those words could actually escape my lips on the bad days.

The only way I have been able to communicate it has been through text and writing. Take away my keyboard and I'd probably wouldn't make it.
 
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