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@sun seeker yes I think you're right. I have trouble accepting my ptsd. I want it to go away. I've had so much therapy since I was 15 years old already and I find it very hard to still have so much trouble because of it. I find it hard to accept. And wonder if I didn't do 'enough' in forms of therapy or something because it takes soooo long. But I guess I have to accept that it's still making my life difficult everyday. I wanted to be like others for a long time and pushed it away, but that didn't work out very well..
Thanks for the example from the child. And indeed I am harsh to that child. I'm reading a lot about the inner child now and trying to do things with that (meditations, visualisations etc). But it keeps on coming so many times that it drives me crazy. But I guess that's how it works and I have to accept that?
How did you learn to be kind to your inner child?

Thanks @Captain Kirk Lazarus it must be difficult to have your friends and family avoiding you. I hope you'll gain a lot from this forum!
Thanks @intothelight !
 
I've had so much therapy since I was 15 years old already and I find it very hard to still have so much trouble because of it. I find it hard to accept. And wonder if I didn't do 'enough' in forms of therapy or something because it takes soooo long
Or it's possible that it was the wrong kind of therapy. I relate to what you are saying about frustration working and working on yourself and still not being where you want to be. I don't know if this is your situation, but I've come to realize that most of the therapy I've had wasn't addressing the roots of my problems. You need actual trauma therapy to deal with trauma.

How did you learn to be kind to your inner child?
Umm. I have a long way to go. I've also done lots of inner child work and it doesn't work for me very well. It's worked better to see myself in the present as the child with someone separate from me doing the nurturing, even if I have to play both roles at once. That looks confusing the way I wrote it. Let me think of an example. So in classic inner child work you see yourself in the present as the parent to your child self. I have some trouble with that. Instead, I let myself in the present be both. If I am upset, I will talk soothingly to myself, stroke my own hair, tell myself I'm doing fine and to take one step at a time, do soothing things like take a bath or curl up with a soft blanket, all the while also being that nurturing other person I also need to have present. I don't know if that makes sense. I can try to explain further if necessary.
 
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Hi @Yvy, and welcome. I do EFT as well, but I do it with my therapist as well as on my own. It has done me a great deal of good. Hopefully this forum will give you many extra resources to draw upon. Glad you're here.
 
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@sun seeker yes in the beginning the therapy wasn't very good. They put me in a group for instance where I never talked, and let everybody else talk first because I found that I wasn't important etc. But after years I finally found good therapy and I learned a lot there. But I have trouble trusting therapists so I projected a lot of stuff on them which made it difficult for a few of them to 'reach' me. As they said... The therapists after that didn't really do much for me. But I thought it was because of me, that I had to work harder. I didn't look at how it felt for me. But after six years I went to look for someone new (only because my old therapist wanted to stop and I saw that it couldn't learn anything from her anymore) and for the first time I looked at how it FELT for me. And that's when I found out that the years before I didn't feel safe or very good with the other therapists but blamed myself. And of course sometimes it just doesn't work. So, maybe I wasn't ready. Now I feel good with my therapist but I don't know if she can help me very much or specifically. So I'm reading a lot myself about the inner child work for example. (pardon my English, it's not my first language, I hope it's 'readable').

Thanks for explaining about the inner child how you work with that. I think I understand what you write. I find it hard to imagine myself as the parent in the present. I haven't found my way in that yet... I notice that I'm in the child role A LOT of times. Maybe, mostly. (which does make me feel ashamed a bit too be honest...:unsure::unsure:
And I have this VERY mean voice (everything my parents and sister said to me in my childhood) in my head (it's not another voice it's my own) which constantly puts me down, especially when I make a mistake or seem to be making mistakes I want to punish myself severly. As if I don't have the right to live and feel happy. I feel like I have to be punished all the time, as if that's the only way I am 'safe' or allowed to live. That gives me a lot of pain and problems and I really hope that I can change that because I'm really sick of it:wtf::mad: But somehow my head keeps believing this... But it'll take time.
Do you know by any chance where I can find more about this or people that recognise this on the forum? I've looked a few times but am losing my way a bit, there are so many topics etc.

I hope it'll help you what you do with your inner child! I'm reading a book about it now, 'homecoming' from Bradshaw. He has some practical things in it and meditations. But I find it difficult.. Where I live there aren't many therapies or courses about the inner child. It's not very known maybe around here... I don't know.
 
First, your English is just fine.

It's good that you are now realizing what feels right and wrong for you. I wonder, unless you have already tried this, whether some kind of somatic therapy would be a good fit for you. You might find it helps you get in touch with the sensations in your body that tell you what your needs are. It's not unusual that they have been so buried, but they are still there, believe me!

I also have a tendency to just go along with whatever a person I see as authority tells me is best, and went through years of therapy that wasn't getting me very far because I wasn't paying attention to what I needed. And you are the only one who really knows what you need. (I know, I can panic when people tell me that, because it feels like I don't know either.) But there are ways of learning again to know. In case this helps, I'll share what I am doing with my new therapist. I told her in the beginning that with my last therapist I felt we were not communicating and that the therapist thought there was a therapeutic process going on when for me, we were getting nowhere. Her suggestion, which we are now following, is that at the beginning of each session now she asks me whether anything came up for me after the last session and how I feel the process is going. Just the fact that she remembers to ask me this every week helps me build trust, and the structured communication means we don't let any problems go on for too long.

And I have this VERY mean voice (everything my parents and sister said to me in my childhood) in my head (it's not another voice it's my own) which constantly puts me down, especially when I make a mistake or seem to be making mistakes I want to punish myself severly.
You know what? I have one of those too. But over time, the kinder voice has gotten louder. Keep working on it.

Do you know by any chance where I can find more about this or people that recognise this on the forum? I've looked a few times but am losing my way a bit, there are so many topics etc.
No not really, but I am sure there are people here who have something to say about it. Why not start your own thread and see what people have to say? Also, do you know how to use the search function on the forums page? That will help you find all the threads on whatever topic you search for. Good luck!
 
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Did the EFT help quickly or does it take a lot of time?
Well, yes and yes :D

When working through a section of my trauma narrative - and also when, as I was learning to be comfortable with it, we worked through other events that were emotionally loaded for me, but not the cause of my PTSD - I always get relief for the one specific thing we are tapping on. In a one hour therapy session I seem to be averaging four or five targets. I hesitate to guess at the number of targets total, because I remember everything every clearly.

So, the part that takes a lot of time is getting all the way through your story (especially if it isn't as condensed as an EFT 'two minute story').
The part that's fast is the actually lowering of the intensity of the bad feelings. I think the longest we've ever had to go at one target may have been 20 minutes, but usually it's much more like 5-10.

I also do EFT on my own, for things in my daily life. But I appreciate having a therapist with me for the trauma processing very much.
 
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@sun seeker thanks!

That's a good idea the somatic therapy. I started therapy with horses last week. To practice being more in the 'now'.
I had a physical therapist that did somatic work but we didn't do much with my body then. But maybe that's an idea for later this year yes.

Wow I'm glad you have that with your therapist, that you can talk about those things with her in the beginning. After my 'earlier' therapists I learned to say it pretty quickly when I have problems with how my therapist acts. I'm glad with that.

What helped you the most with battling that mean voice? I'm trying several things but it keeps coming up with new things. Which I read is normal but it's awful. I find it hard to find an 'anchor' how they call that, or focus on my breath. My problem is also that I still BELIEVE what that mean voice says, for example if I'm afraid I did something wrong I'm going to stress and fuss about that and think about that (while it could have been years ago in my job for instance) then it gets worse and worse until panic comes up. So I have to not go along with these thoughts, but I still do because it FEELS like if I know if the thought it right or not: that only then I can get rest. But if I have rest when I didn't make mistake something else will come up...

Yes, I could write my own thread, thanks. I wanted to do that but thought maybe someone already wrote about this and people will be annoyed that I started a new thread haha..

If you wouldn't mind... Would you tell me some more about what you do with your inner child and comforting yourself in the now. My therapist says I have to comfort myself when I have these awful thoughts or panic but that's still really difficult. I do try sitting on the couch with a blanket and something warm, but I already did that even when I didn't have panick or such. I have a few bears and stuffed animals. I tried writing. Calling someone. But it's still hard to do it alone.

@joeylittle thanks. That sounds really good. I hope it'll help you a lot!
 
Hi Yvy!

Welcome to the forum :)
I can't help but be a little bit happy to see another Dutch(wo)man, haha...

I'm gonna keep an eye on your post about comforting your inner child.
I would like to know how to do that, too.

Radise
 
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Hooray you're Dutch too @Radise. I was already quite proud when I read on this forum about Bessel van der Kolk being a very good professional in trauma that he is Dutch too haha, a bit stupid right? Did you try Dutch forums too or just this one? I tried a Dutch forum before but it was very much about the traumas and not about what to do about it sadly enough..
 
What helped you the most with battling that mean voice?
There isn't any one specific thing, unfortunately. Wouldn't that make it easy! I'll tell you one thing I did, at the risk people will think I'm weird. Well, I already know I'm weird, so that's okay!

One night a few years ago I was in deep despair over what seemed unending grief and problems in my life, and in desperation I asked God to send another soul to take over my life because I so, so much wanted to get out of here. That didn't happen, but after a while a sense of calm came to me and I felt as if there were a comforting presence that was both with me and a part of me, if that makes sense. I don't always feel that presence, in fact I often still feel despair and extreme fear. But very often, I feel I now have access to a stronger, older, calmer part of me. Not someone different, just a more mature me. It might not appeal to everyone, but that's what I did.

I also work on limiting who I spend time with. The more people you have in your life who treat you well, the more you internalize that kindness. You can't always control that, but you can shift the balance.

I pay attention to examples of good parenting around me, in books and movies, and soak it up like a sponge.

If you wouldn't mind... Would you tell me some more about what you do with your inner child and comforting yourself in the now.
Sure. As I mentioned, most of the time I don't work with my inner child as a separate being. It's more that I - the "I" that I most identify with - listen to that calmer, more mature voice. I can be both at once: the frightened or overwhelmed child and the comforter. This might be why I have trouble doing this at work, now I think of it. At home I can take the time to slow down and comfort myself while at work I have to stay busy.

So, a lot of it is about slowing down. I get overstimulated and overwhelmed very easily and need lots of down time. The more there is to do in a day, the easier I get into panic mode. So when I start getting overwhelmed, I take a break, remove myself from the scene that is upsetting me, and talk to myself soothingly. Out loud. If you know any good parents of small children, listen to what they say and to their tone of voice, and use that on yourself. Touch yourself gently in the way you would like someone else to touch you. Use whatever is comforting, but mostly it is about using your senses. The child part of you doesn't understand logic or reason. It doesn't care that there is no reason to be upset, it just IS upset. Use touch, your blanket and stuffies sound good. Use smell - candles, essential oils, a pot on the stove with a few orange peels simmering in water, whatever is calming for you. Use taste. Warm milk is good for a lot of people, but whatever works for you. Sound - either music you like, or maybe you need quiet. Sight - again depends what works for you. Dimming the lights is usually good for me.

Tell yourself whatever messages you need to counteract the criticism. "One step at a time, you're doing fine, you're a good person," or whatever you need. Breathe deeply. Slow way down.

When you start feeling a little better, again use your soothing voice to make a plan. "Okay, when you're ready, we're going to go back to what we were doing. But it's okay if we don't get it all done today. We'll do this part, and then we'll take a break, and finish tomorrow. You're doing great."

What you are doing is teaching yourself the emotional regulation that you didn't learn as a child. One step at a time. I hope something here helps.
 
@sun seeker thanks for sharing this. I'm glad that it helped or did something for you when you asked God. I asked him a long time ago when I was a child to help my mother and maybe I hoped me too a bit... But no one ever came to help sadly enough... It made me believe that there is no one for me. Some people talk about angels or a guide that is with you. I don't want to be unkind but I feel like there is no one for me: no guide, no angel. Maybe I should try to have more faith again, because one of my problems is that I don't have a lot of hope for myself. (none to be specific).

Thank you for explaining what you do with your inner child. I'm going to try that. Do you notice for yourself that it helps you?

What I find difficult too is that because of what happens or what we do with those thoughts when we work, it makes me unable to work fulltime or work 'more normal hours.' While there are so many people who can and still have energy if they work 10 hours a day! Ahh well... I should not compare myself with them. But my colleguas don't really understand why I work so 'little'. I'm afraid they'll think I'm lazy or something... Maybe I should try to explain it a little bit...

Don't you sometimes get tired of doing all these things for your inner child? Maybe that's with me because I'm still a bit resistant... ?
 
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