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Help Me Rationalize This Horrific Life.

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I found breaking it down to the basics:

What part of the act & for what reasons you're feeling guilty?

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I feel guilty for taking peoples lives. That wasnt my decision to make, it was Gods. I could of just injured them, im good with a handgun, but I chose to kill them. The fact that I could make that decision, makes me not like who I am or who ive become. If that makes sense.
 
also struggling with my own recovery because I dont have understanding and support at home that I need.
Clearly. That is why I asked about counseling.
But, the other part of me knows that I am literally a mess now.
And the reason for this might be....
1. because you were forced into a position where you literally had to protect your daughter's and your life
2. because you had to act with lethal force to this position
3. you found out you were IN this position due to your husband's actions.
I am going to say the list goes on and on.... but I won't. I will let you be the judge of that.
Everyday, I turn some stupid thing he says into a fight (his words, not mine) begging him to be considerate or kinder to me and then he responds with such horrible remarks about how much he hates me.
Are you using the term stupid in this context because your husband is being a selfish idiot about this whole thing, because I would be....

Again, counseling, imho, for both you and your daughter. Sounds like there has been so much 'blame the victim' (you) here, that you may need to get some clarity on this situation. I so wish you all the best. Hard lessons. Been there myself and it took me a long time to see it....
 
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I feel guilty for taking peoples lives. That wasnt my decision to make, it was Gods.

God put you in a situation a f*cker was in your way and wouldn't let go. If He wanted to have them so much, He could have made them less a douchebag.

You're a miracle maker: Making sure the miracle named your daughter is alive. You're doing His job just fine, and yours.

Edited to add: I lost two children in the course of duty. If there's one regret so much worse than anything one's done? It's the one a person didn't do.
 
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I'm going to play devils advocate and look at this differently.

If you really did a wrong thing and deliberately killed them when it was wrong to do so - then you should be consulting an attorney and not posting about this online.

My guess is that the police and the DA investigated and found that you did nothing wrong. That what you did was legal - and it is legal for a very good reason! US law allows us to do what you did because it recognizes the right to defend ourselves.

If the DA did investigate and you are facing any legal action related to the incident, stop posting online and get yourself a damn good lawyer, now. Pronto.

You may actually want to at least consult with an attorney either way because if the families of the perpetrators who broke into your home come across these posts where you write about all of this, they could use these posts in court against you. You are "anonymous" here, but yet not that anonymous. What you post here could be linked to you. I'm not trying to dissuade you from posting, but just advising you to be cautious - and even more, this is all the more reason to get yourself into therapy.

They generally can not use what you say in therapy against you in criminal or civil legal action. (Not unless you authorize access or other very rare exceptions that usually involve future imminent threat, like suicidal intent.) Either way, therapy is a much more confidential and legally protected place than here.

If you are not facing the threat of legal action and you are still convinced, so convinced of your self blame about their deaths... all the more reason to seek counseling.

Your action to defend yourself do not change the need for you to get counseling. Even police officers who shoot in proven self defense are put on leave and evaluated, and many suffer PTSD from such incidents. Even if your self blame is legitimate, this is still very real trauma to see people die in front of you.

Even if these criminals had not died, and you had somehow survived another way, you would still likely need counseling.

I feel like you are trying to heal by trying to change your husband, trying to find peace and solace from him and with him... You won't ever get there if that is how you try to go about this. Not even if he was a really stand up guy. (Which he has proven to not be a stand up guy, again and again.)

We can sit here all day and tell you that you don't deserve to blame yourself like you do. Chances are, you will still keep blaming yourself or trying to change your husband, until you are ready to face the truth. Your life was in danger. Your daughter's life was in danger. You naturally have many symptoms now from this horrible event. You need help to heal. It's not your fault you need help. Anyone in your shoes would.

The simple act of seeing someone die, no matter the cause, or the fact that your lives were in danger to begin with, is enough to cause most if not all of the symptoms you are experiencing now (inappropriate guilt being only one of the many symptoms you are facing.)

There is a path to get better.

That path involves you finally focusing on you, your pain now, and all of the aspects of this mess about your husband and these horrible people who put you in danger and put your daughter in danger.

That path to recovery includes getting your butt into therapy. No excuses. No trying to self blame yourself out of it. No more making your recovery contingent on your husbands actions.

If you can't yet go to therapy for your own sake, do it for the sake of your daughter. She deserves a momma who had support and help to get through this time and recover.

You focus so much on what you feel you did that hurt others but you don't focus much on how much they should not have been in your house putting your life in danger and that of your child.

You are so quick to focus on your blame and so quick to try to get your jerk of a husband back, you sound somewhat like the abused wife who keeps trying to go back to her abuser because maybe this time it will be different. You are steeped in denial and inappropriate self blame so much, so ready to ignore really awful things that others have done and to try to make jerks like your husband happy, that I wonder if you have been through trauma even before this.

You can't bring them back to life or make this better by blaming yourself. You can't bring your husband back from his decision to divorce you by taking all the responsibility for things that were not your fault.

We can not "rationalize this life." Trauma inherently involves irrational shit happening. It probably wouldn't change much about your symptoms even if we could.

But we can support you and your effort to recover and let go of all this self blame.

It will be very hard, but you are made of strong stuff and I believe you can do this. I believe you and your daughter can have a very bright future ahead of you.

P.S.Based on what you have shared here, it seems like you did the right thing, and even if you didn't, I don't think you deserve all the blame you put on yourself. I think it's really survivors guilt, or the common shame and self blame victims feel after trauma, and not accutately deserved guilt or self blame. You were scared, in a dangerous situation, and I would have likely done the same thing myself. You are a mom, and you have some very good and healthy momma bear instincts that kept you and your daughter alive! You have much to be proud of. Yes, proud. I'm glad you survived and I am glad you are reaching out for help. I would be more worried about your recovery of you were cold and didn't second guess what you did. But it doesn't mean your self blame is accurate. I hope you can find relief and a safe place to work through all of this soon.
 
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I'm going to play devils advocate and look at this differently.

If you really did a wrong thing and...


Ok, I was cleared of any charges on this. I wouldnt be dumb enough to incriminate myself online. I have had both me and my daughter going to counseling for a few months now and it is helping on a personal level. This post was not meant to be all inclusive of all of my PTSD struggles, I was simply addressing the specific aspect of it that involved my husband. I appreciate your response, thank you.
 
It is awesome you and your daughter are in therapy. Good! I am glad you are reaching out too for advice about you husband.

I still caution you. There are 4 things you have stated already that a civil attorney could have a field day with. Civil liability is very different than criminal. Most people who incriminate themselves have no idea they are doing it... and I'm not even concerned so much about self incrimination. I'm talking about things an attorney could run with and twist against you.

But,

This was not the point of my post.my goodness, I post all kinds of stuff here, I know the risks in taking and I take them because like you, it's worth it to get the support, The point is not if or what you are sharing online or not. The point is how you are seeking to recover: by changing your husband. Trying to get him to come to therapy, fighting with him, sharing all the details all with him, getting him to validate and help you, etc.

You recognize you are in a cycle. There is only one person you can change. You.

He put you in danger. He is supposed to do many things that he is very much not doing, it's really an awful situation.

If I put someone in danger, and they were traumatized by it, I would not be the best person to help them heal from it (unless I was willing to do my own work first.)

He isn't willing to do that. Instead, he is calling YOU weak and pathetic. That is awful! That is emotionally abusive and you keep fighting with him over it.

The problems in the marriage started long before this traumatic event. He was devaluing you for a long time.

You have done everything you could to change him, I would have too.

One of the quickest ways to push someone away - try to talk (argue, fight) them into changing. It's also the least effective way for change I actually happen. It usually leads to cycles like the one you are in. Is not at all your fault, ad it is hard to get out of.

I stand firm in my opinion that it's time to focus on you and getting support other than him.

I also stand firm in my opinion that you are overly blaming yourself and this is part of PTSD itself. You deserve to be safe and protected and supported and cherished, in ways your husband had failed to do for quite awhile now. I'm so sorry for all you are going through.
 
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I am gun enthusiast, and anyone will tell you in a self-defense situation you do not shoot to wound, you shoot to end the threat. If you have to shoot your goal is to incapacitate them; to stop their ability to hurt you, or your family, that means shooting them until they are down. It may mean wounding them seriously, and it may mean killing them.
You do not shoot to just wound because that gives them the opportunity to shoot back.
 
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