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How Do You Deal With The Beast And Ordering Someone To Deploy?

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Lurch

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I had a very strange issue on Thursday, at least for me. I was told that I needed to prepare on of the LT's (O-3) for a possible deployment to Liberia. I know I don't handle human emotions correctly, but it took me back when I had a junior LT (possible deployment) and their boss, a senior LT, in my office telling me how this is going to affect the unit and how we could not meet our local mission. WTF!!!!

How do you keep the Beast in the cage and actually listen to the young officers? I so wanted to yell at them that this is not a combat mission and they are lucky to be in my service. I wanted to tell both of them to HTFU and how many that we have lost in the line of duty. It is hard for me to understand that they are young and have never done this so it is scary for them, and I can't think that way in the moment. As you can tell this is still bothering me....if I was told to deploy, my bags would be packed and shaking everyone's hand out the door. This doesn't mean I want to go, but wanting to and following orders are two different things.
 
Lurch, it's a head scratcher for sure.

Will someone please tell me when an order in the military was OPEN to discussion, other than "Ah shit".

I don't get it and most likely never will - the Beast feeds on shit like this.

Ba
 
Ba, that my sentiment. Unfortunately, todays kids are all winners and all deserve to have a discussion on what will happen to them. Damn I need a tazer for days like this.....
 
No they just need a little dose of life. I went to Haiti to help with earthquake relief and it was horrible. Time to cowboy up and eare that respect.
 
I am having a little difficulty wrapping my head around this also Lurch. Should it matter that you don't deal with emotions well? Where is this "gray" area in command?

All I remember is that when an order was given you obeyed. Didn't really matter if it made sense. If it was a bad decision hopefully their was an NCO bright enough to make it a better situation. That's how the chain of command worked.

The fact that they are officers at that even confuses me more. Hopefully you'll figure it out.
 
Part of the problem is, it is not an order yet. This was a warning order at the time that has not become a reality, deployment date has passed. I run a Medical Clinic with my most senior Medical Officer being in the service only 3 months. Nothing between me and them and my senior NCO is an Equipment Operator that knows zero about medical. Great NCO with enlisted but limited with O's concerning their job.

I love my job, and that is the reason why I haven't sought out a PEB. I guess I am just going to have to live with the reality that those that are working for me are a bunch of bleeding heart cry babies. They do know where I come from, as my walls are littered with memorabilia from deployments past (thanks to the wife).
 
Lurch, I think you understand they're human first and everyone reacts differently, why you pulled them into a room. You expect and give them leeway to react however they must to get it out of their system. That is how you build their trust in you. As the senior, you mentor them. Then you deal with leadership. That was their chance to get it out. "Now this is how I expect you to act down range...yada yada yada." You have to be a leader and the deployment is an opportunity for them to grow and improve. Nobody wants to walk into Ebola land especially after seeing it described as a warzone on the news. In the end, yeah, they signed up and they will perform the mission but as a mentor that is why it was your challenge, your role to "prepare" them. I think that is part of preparing, expecting and dealing with the initially shock.
 
I remember how much of a Gung-ho idiot I was when it came time to "see the elephant".

The old NCO's from Vietnam were patient with me and just smirked.

Do that.
 
If it were I, I'd just give them the skinny and eliminate any conversation before it starts, zeroes or not, orders are orders. Go to Liberia. Avoid bodily fluid contact. Pay Attention. Lead by example. Wear your gloves and faceshields.

As for the beast, ignore it. They will either end up here with us, or they will be just fine.

I know you want to prevent anyone else from ending up like us. Shit, everyone here feels that way. But, we are what we are, and we should be proud of it. We survived. We went to places and did things none of them can imagine, even with the help of the interwebs and HD TV.

But, truth is, the Beast IS military service. The symptom list reads the same as the bootcamp training recs: Keep em tired. Keep em alert. Keep them paranoid. Keep them alive, exhausted and bitching.

Much as I hate to be blunt, truth is the dead don't suffer from PTSD or anything else. what has become the Beast for us is why we are all here and able to talk about it. Without our innate, ingrained anxiety reactions, many of us would be in a bag, a box, or scattered around a nice bit of landscape.

Instead, we are alive and bitching. Exhausted. Paranoid. Alert. Aware. ALIVE.

Those that trained us did their jobs well. We are the proof.

When training, ordering and briefing the next generation, all we can strive to do is as well or better than those that trained and ordered us. We can't carry guilt for the newbies. Hell, we can barely carry our own!

We, the PTSDer's, aren't something new. Modern humans as we know them have been around at least 12,000 years.There has NEVER been a time where there wasn't combat. Where there wasn't soldiers, and guards, and sailors. (Hell we even had air dales, though they shot arrows or threw rocks....). As long as there has been combat, there has been survivors that carry the scars of it, visible or otherwise.

We're just the ones that get all the press coverage these days. We are the hot topic, the monster under the bed, and those to be pitied. Civilians need that as much as they need us to go do the jobs they are too cowardly to do themselves. Sure they talk big, but really, who does the dirty work (right or wrong) for their country? Us.

We are still doing our jobs. Sure, we might be huddled in basements, or pubs, or in plain sight, but we are and always will be military men and women. We still protect our countrymen as they work hard to crawl up the obesity index and fist kittens and keep their gas guzzlers fuel of toxic chemicals. We make them feel protected because they look at what they perceive as our suffering and feel better about their own pitiful, meaningless lives. They eat their antidepressants to be part of a trend and have an excuse for their worthlessness. We eat them because they will cage us up if we don't. In other words, we carry the burdens so they do not have to.

Every single member here can remember that one or more comrade in arms we helped out while on duty. All of us made a difference, good or bad in at least one other person's life. Most civilians can't even comprehend such things. We might have done something as drastic as taken a round for a buddy, or dragged a bag home for mom and dad, or given clean skivvies to those that had none. We might have given a chocolate to a kid that had never seen and never will see candy. We might have done things that are socially unacceptable to civilians and politicos and lawyers. But someone had to do it and we were them.

So, keep your chin up. Train them well. Lead the right and then be there for them when they get back. It is all of our job to ensure that.
 
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