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Other How Do You Heal When New Trauma Keeps Happening?

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First post, just reading and finding my way around here. I've had a long history of many traumatic events but for some reason was always functional until recently. I'm just broken now, I am triggered by everything, everywhere. The diagnosis is new to me and initially I rejected it because I've never heard of anyone getting PTSD from their child's actions. My older children have put me through an abnormal amount of trouble and continue doing things that regularly impact my life even though I don't engage at all anymore beyond what is necessary ( My son is just 17 so while he is inpatient at a program, I still must remain involved in his care until he is 18)
They still manage to bring further upset and devastation to our family in ways that directly affect us ( not just emotional)
There's a lot of holes in my story. I'm sorry it is just so much to go into. I advocated for them, did all the normal mom things, always remained invested and involved in getting them appropriate help.
It just seems so weak and stupid to be traumatized by the behavior of my child when I've been to hell and back and still kept going. It's always been a joke that nothing knocks me down and I always keep going. I've finally been knocked down and I do not have a clue how to get myself together. I just need someone to help me understand why now? Why am I falling apart? Is it going to get better? I'm in therapy and on meds and it is hard to breathe. To take care of my youngest child takes every bit of effort some days
I am trying to accept my diagnosis so I can get better for her but it hurts so much every minute and feels like it can't go away.
 
I'm so sorry for what you are going through.

There are ways things can get better when new trauma is happening - but it depends on what the new trauma is. What did your kid (kids?) do that was traumatic in the past and now?

There are always options. For example, if your son violently put your life in danger, then you can sign him over to foster care and no longer have to be involved in his treatment anymore. You don't have to be involved if it is leading to life threatening victimization.
 
My son is in a facility for children with sexual abuse history who have already harmed or are likely to harm others. His whole life he has been difficult, but I did all I could to get him help. I often was left screaming at agencies counselors and schools that he needed more help than I could provide and it fell on deaf ears time and again. I insisted I couldn't manage him and that he was dangerous and they always said if I signed him over, he would go to a foster home. Well, knowing my son and that he was dangerous, my only option was to manage him at home and keep trying. At 14 he was expelled from school. The school failed him and did not provide an alternate education. I had to consult an attorney before they agreed to evaluate him.
He was home with me for a year. Every day, every waking moment was spent with him, an eye on him to insure he didn't do anything else wrong. He left one night and disappeared, rape charges were filed by a girl the following day. I just wanted to help him. On his desire to have me go away, he filled every moment with manipulative emotional abuse. I was intimidated, felt trapped and unable to escape. Finally one day he broke a window at our home and I took him to the hospital and said he was out of control. After much fighting he was admitted to a residential treatment center. They didn't properly supervise him or need my warnings and in one month he sexually assaulted or raped 3 people. Now he is in a facility appropriate to a predator like him. He's Undergone some evaluations that have brought to light that his sister sexually abused him and it's believed that my ex husband is her abuser. He's safe now and we are safe, but his latest stunt was to say that my husband of 15 years physically abused him from age 11-14. This is wholly untrue and has resulted in a Cps investigation. No one is taking his accusations seriously but it's still awful. I have a 3 year old and I don't know if he's abused her? I never left him alone with her for any length of time but the thoughts don't leave my mind. My ex husband is not in trouble, is allowed to go visit him there.
It's going to be impossible to explain or convey why keeping him with me every day for a year with a newborn was traumatic. I'm sure there's someone already out there thinking I'm just whining about a teen and self diagnosing. No. This is not normal: what he has done is not normal. He has been described as a sociopath and I know I did all I could to protect the world from this child. In 5 months he can leave, and go back into the world and I know I can't stop him or protect him or anyone else. But I can't protect us from him either. He's strong, clever angry and dangerous.
I guess it's a lot of compounded trauma for me with learning of the sex abuse, his behavior and fear of the future. I just can't let go, I'm so scared.
 
I suppose I should've clarified further. I had an emotionally and sexually abusive marriage with my kids dad, a bad childhood, two different accidents that have left me with permanent injuries, my mother kidnapped my daughter, my daughter came back to me and was so damaged she was dangerous and harmful and abusive, I got pregnant, my son escalated his behavior, I had my baby, lost my job, my husband lost his job, started a new business, daughter came back with a boyfriend and pregnant, I juggled everyone and everything, the baby was removed from her after she left my home because of abuse and neglect, lost my best friend, daughter moved far away and just disclosed 2 weeks ago that she's since had another child although she's using drugs and not self sufficient at all, still running my business while dealing with development delays in my 3 year old, trying to stay sane while assisting the DA in gathering a case against my daughter for the abuse of my son, now my son is making up stories because I don't visit enough .
So while I say my kids, it's because they're the center of the chaos. I believe that I thought I was over the abuse in my first marriage but when trapped at home with my son all that time it was like living it all over but I couldn't get away.
I know I've done all I could for my daughter and I do not engage with her at all. She needs to get her own help and live her own life. My son is asking a lot of questions and putting 2 and 2 together and learning that his father was abusive. I feel like abandoning him completely right now as he's on the verge of a breakthrough and criminal case against his own abuser would be cruel. I'm his mom.
I just don't have enough and never have. I've tried and I am weak and small and broken. It's been 20 years of nonstop disaster and an inability to make choices for myself and move forward and live. Sometimes I just don't see the point in trying but my littlest child is just 3 and the love of my life and I want to keep her safe and protect her and help her grow up to be happy and strong but am having trouble seeing how when I couldn't protect my other kids from the harm they suffered. I didn't see it. I'm a failure and I'm going to fail this child too. The self loathing is all consuming and I hurt myself all the time.
 
My heart really goes out to you.

I wondered if it was a situation much like you described - rather than questioning if you were just whining. People don't usually end up with a professional diagnosing them with PTSD for out of control teenagers unless serious trauma and criminality was involved. It happens more than people ever want to face. Everyone wants to think all kids are good and it's always the parent who is bad and to blame. It's just not always the case - and your story and others stories prove it.

I also wondered about earlier trauma too. What you are enduring now is enough to lead to PTSD. It is also common for adults enduring current trauma to have also endured earlier trauma.

Everything you write sounds like the cycle of abuse magnified, and like you are doing your damnedest to get the cycle to stop.

I don't think *you* are the failure. So many caught up in family cycle of abuse payers just give up. So many get caught up in drugs. So many run.

So many never ever ask for help. You have. You are getting treatment and are here reaching out for support. This is HUGE.

You have been fighting for help for your son and daughter for years. *You* didn't fail them. Their root trauma and your own trauma was too big, and the system was too broken.

You are not the bad guy in this. Those who victimized you and later your kids are the absolute moral failures.

I hesitated suggesting foster care before I knew the details. I work with kids in foster care - and several of them have stories like your son's. There are not really good options for these kids who were traumatized and act out the trauma by becoming perpetrators at young ages. Our jails are filled with adults who have stories like your son and never got help or who were amoung the small percentage that are also sadistic. They are also filled with men and women like your daughter who try to numb the pain with drugs.

I'm proud of how you have fought for help for them and I'm angry with you how the system failed.

Putting these kids like your son in foster care can help the family, but it leaves other kids vulnerable, and frankly, you re right, it's not a good option. Keeping them at home tends to traumatize and stress the whole family, and isn't a good option either.

You did the best you could with what you had. You deserve many kudos and support to heal. Not comndenation or judgement - not even your own harsh criticism.

I work with the families of the kids in foster care, including some of the kids who are in foster care because of behaviors like you describe in your son, Some families are horrific situations where the parents house be in jail. Some situations are like what yours sounds like. Moms or Dads who are trying the damned to do the right thing with their out of control kid who is hurting others, and up against a system that fails again and again and again... I have sat alongside more than one outraged parent screaming "what happens when my son rapes or kills someone? Will you finally do something then?" The horror of knowing what your own kid is capable of, and trying to stop it, and not being able to - that is a pretty awful thing to face.

I myself have wanted to scream at people in the system who didn't do more. And I'm not a parent! I have been with those kids too that we are all honestly waiting for them to commit horrible crimes again. It's hard to figure out what to do and how to face it - even as a professional, rather than a family member.

It's hard. Some of these kids like your son have been deeply wounded and traumatized themselves. Some are just sick in a psychopathic or sociopathic ways. Some are a mixure. It rarely fits in any neat boxes and honestly challenges me about humanity. They are kids, some traumatized, but they have also done horrible things. They need support and we also have to keep society safe from them reoffending.

We have had kids that will falsely accuse staff or safe mentors or parents of horrible things - even saying things happened in places and at times were there was videotape. Then videotape is pulled and everyone sees that nothing happened. Sometimes the kid later says they made the false accusation because they were too scared to face the real person who hurt them. Some kids mean well but generalize the abuse to everyone. Some make it up for attention because it's the only way they know how to get sympathy and support. Some are just sadists who are manipulating people as a part of that illness. Some kids are telling the truth:

Whatever the cause, so much damage is done with accusations when they are false. It's hell. The falsely accused person then has their own sense of safety in the world shaken.

It's hard too, because we also have to keep an open mind about accusations of abuse from kids. I'm guessing you have felt baffled and shocked when hearing about the abuse your ex did. It is so hard I take in the reality that adults we have loved have had the capacity to wound kids so horribly.

It's not unheard of for a kid to really and truly be molested by more than one person. Perpetrators have an uncanny way of picking kids who have already been traumatized. It's a horrible thing - but members here on this forum tell stories themselves of it happening to them, again and again. I have seen it and experienced it too.

I'm not saying your son's accusations are actually true, and I'm not even suggesting your current husband did anything wrong. It's just worth keeping in mind if the investigation leads to any evidence. Past abuse cases are hard to prove and CPS is historically crappy at proving much. So if they do find evidence, more than just accusations, I would very seriously consider it.

As you have already experienced with your ex, child predators are very good at hiding it. It's absolutely not your fault you didn't see it before.

But without any evidence, and if professionals have diagnosed your son with sadism, it is very possible it is just a hurtful accusation he had made up for sympathy.

I think it's smart to be a little concerned your son could see to harm your family again. I would carefully consider talking to the police or DA's office. Since he has already been criminally charged and faced consequences for past criminal behavior, they may know of options. Maybe not. But they probably actually share your concerns about him acting out again. At the very least, you will make a record that you have concerns and that way if something does happen, they will likely act more quickly. At the very least they could help with a restraining order or maybe stepped up patrols in your area for now. Especially if he is accusing your husband falsely. There is probably some anger there.

There also a lot of reasons to remember that you do have ways to be safe now. Don't give up. PTSD blurs and messes up our sense of being able to feel safe - but even that can change too.

Just fighting the systems you have been up against is deeply wounding and horrible to endure. I myself only works few hours a week anymore in the system that helps foster care kids, and only as a volunteer now (so I can step back whenever needed.) Is traumatizing and emotionally challenging. Many professionals outright quit with serious symptoms of vicarious or secondary or even primary traumatization. And those are trained professionals who are not living in it all.

The way it affects parents is so much deeper.

I do stick by what I said: there are ways things can get better. I am going to be honest that this is probably going to be life long journey for you - just like it is for most people here with PTSD. I don't mean that you will spend your life directly dealing with issues around your son or daughter, but sorting it out and healing from the impacts of all of this on you. I have worked with parents who have been dealing with this for decades. They have talked of when it was worse and how it got better for them. It does get better.

You are on the right path by seeing a counselor and getting help. You can and likely already are a good parent for your little girl. You are smart to wonder and question the things that you are for her. You have taken another good step by reaching out here too.

The diagnosis and treatments you have started are new. I know things feel hopeless and really scary now, and it is awful things take so much damn time to get better, but I really want to encourage you that it does get better. Some of the hopelessness and fear you feel is a symptom of PTSD in and of itself.

It's really ok to let your older daughter go too. It's honestly better than trying to rescue her. She needs to hit her own rock bottom and get help on her own and begin her own healing journey. I know it's so hard for a mom to let go, I know you likely love both your kids - I don't doubt that. I also support you in letting go of them. They are old enough and around systems that have hard but possible options to help them. You can't save them when you have been drowning yourself so long. That doesn't make you the failure. It makes you the brave one who says I need help. It means you are a survivor.

The best thing you can do for your 3 year old is invest yourself first and foremost into your own recovery and treatment. If you are self injuring (not sure what you mean by hurting yourself) find all the info you can about grounding and mindfulness. Become an expert. This will not only help you, but it will help her tremendously. The more you learn to regulate your emotions and endure this tremendous pain in healthier ways, the more you can be the mom you want to be for her. And you have already taken great steps in that direction.

My heart really goes out to you.
 
That's the nicest and most helpful thing I've been told ever. Thank you for validating me and being able to hear through my rambles how much has happened.
I absolutely agree about the repeated abuse happening to people who have been abused, in evaluations, my son revealed several other incidents with counselors at a camp and older kids in a previous placement.
The accusations against my husband now are quite vague but he says that my husband physically beat him and I knew about it and didn't stop it. I certainly never condoned any such thing and never
had knowledge of anything like that . Since the fears of him being dangerous came up, my husband has refused contact and is unable to face him yet and after having been a stable parent to him since he was 4. I'm sure he's angry. I wouldn't rule out something I'm unaware of, but it would be more likely to have been a one time reactive incident vs abuse.
It's just a big mess.
I will definitely look into the being grounded thing you mentioned. Thank you for the kind ear and even kinder more understanding words. I believe I have a lot of trauma from not being heard and fighting a flawed system for years. Everything I said fell on deaf ears until people got hurt.
Amazingly, my son has not been charged. The first incident resulted in a restraining order. The incidents in a residential resulted in consequences to the facility for failing to protect. He's handsome charming and intelligent. Amazingly articulate and manipulative. So scary.
Please know that today, you gave me a ray of hope. That's amazing. Thank you.
 
Your story is absolutely HORRID! I had a stepson who went to prison for rape and he just got out on parole. To deal with an individual sociopath like your son, sadly, it seems you're going to have to have him committed to a place for the rest of his life. As far as your daughter goes, Dad needs to step in and help you out. When I read your story, I see that you're the one doing everything, suffering all of the hurt but what has he done to help you?
I wish I was there to hold you and to listen. Just remember we LOVE YOU, okay? This is your safe place, your place of hope, home and venting. You need to take care of you and your baby first and foremost, no one else. If you do not feel safe in your own home, go somewhere safe. I'd take you in if you lived near me and help you out. God help me...I'm going to pray for you, sweetheart. We are here for you.
 
As far as your daughter goes, Dad needs to step in and help you out. When I read your story, I see that you're the one doing everything, suffering all of the hurt but what has he done to help you?
I should say, my current husband, the stepfather of the two older children and biological father of my smallest child is a good man. He accepted the older kids as his own and did everything side by side with me all along, just always deferred to my decisions and backed me up. Now, he sees my son as the source of so much pain and the reason I am broken, he hates what has happened to me and doesn't want to be involved with him. He picks up much of my slack these days and patiently does his best to tolerate my insanity and instability. I know I am safe for now, but fear for my little daughter in the future.
 
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