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Relationship How To Let Him Go?

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My sufferer is in a period of extreme isolation, hasn't responded to any contact in over 5 months. Except to give my number to another family member, get them to text me a thank you for gifts I sent since she apparently can't. We have had vague talks about this. Evidently in previous times of distress and big changes in her life she has cut off her best friend for 2yrs or more. She told me I would give up on her, everybody does. She seems to keep her one primary superficial friendship (texting and calls), but isolate from the friends and family she has real emotional attachment to. It is heartbreaking to be dismissed without warning like your heart means nothing.
 
@nz16 -- I wish I could say I'm truly letting go. I thought I was. I sometimes still think I am. But then nights like tonight come where I go right back to square one. I decided to reach out to him... Just via text.I haven't heard anything back, but I can't say that is not expected. His being silent is fairly typical... But because of me stating to him recently that I could not talk to him anymore and now I'm reaching out -- it so contradictory. It is confusing to me so must be for him. But I miss him so much.

Ugh. Its the worst push and pull that I'm in. Probably in the push and pull by myself at this point. We will see. I suppose his silence helps keep me in the process of letting go. I don't really have a choice at this point.

Short version-- it's hard. And it is still mostly touch and go. But I feel stronger just for trying and at each junction it gets easier. It's definitely a process. Hoping you are finding your comfort.

Wishing you all the best.
 
I understand. There are days I feel I am finally accepting and letting go. Then, have days where I fight so hard not to text him. And days that I don't win that fight. I seem to break down and text him every 3 weeks or so. And, of course, that's followed by the silence. Sometimes it cuts all over again, sometimes it makes me feel stronger and more accepting. I don't know. In my case, I'd give almost anything to have him tell me to go away or give me some outright breakup instead of just this AWOL.

Hope it gets eaier for you.
 
I read all of these posts from you guys and it makes me sad. Sad because I see myself in the words you're saying. I've been with my boyfriend for 2 years and we had a picture perfect relationship for the most part. He was unexpectedly deployed last October and ever since he came home in July, it's been like a nightmare. He has PTSD, TBI, and REM sleep behavior disorder (where he acts out his nightmares). Before, he was super sweet and nice, romantic, helpful, everything you could ask for in a boyfriend. Now, he is very emotionally and verbally abusive, sometimes physically abusive. He gets headaches from his TBI that last for days and can't remember anything the whole time, and he acts like he's still in Afghanistan. I just came home tonight to find him sleeping off a headache and that he had taken his Army knife, cut up one of my magazines, and then stabbed it into the floor (of our rental house) next to where he was sleeping so that he would have "easy access to it" if "someone tried to get" him. Thank god I turned the lights on when I came in or I would have literally walked into it, or our dogs would have.

I have been staying with him, hoping that things would get better. On his good days, he acts almost like the nice, loving person he was before and it makes me hopeful. On his bad days, I am truly afraid for my safety, his safety, and the safety of our dogs and people around us. A few weeks ago someone grabbed him in a parking lot thinking he was somebody else, and he dislocated their shoulder, put them on the ground, and had a knee in their throat before anyone could stop him. I live in a state of fear, wondering what I'm going to wake up to everyday, or what I'm going to say/do to trigger him, if the dogs jump on him and scare him if he will hurt them badly, if someone will look at him wrong and he'll freak out, etc. But still I stay.

I read these posts you guys write and sympathize so much. I'm at the point where I'm strongly questioning if I should stay or not. I love him to pieces, we've talked about marriage, and I can't imagine being with anyone else. But why do I continue to sacrifice my self-worth, self-respect, self-anything just to be here to support him? I was the girl who never put up with any crap from anybody, and now I feel so far from that. I feel like I would be abandoning him too, like so many people in his life have done, and I truly think that if I leave him, he will kill himself. He has told me that I'm the one thing he can't lose, that if he ever does, he won't want to live. How can I leave knowing that if I do, he will most likely take his life? But how can I stay and suffer through this for possibly the rest of our lives?

I don't know what to do either, and can't really offer any advice. But I'm glad to know that I am not alone, and you guys are not alone either.
 
@dimplesg520 no honey you are not alone!! If you ever need to vent, I'm here for you xo

I was that girl as well that never ever took crap from anyone as well. Don't forget to put your safety and health first its what I've learn from all of this. Sometimes you have to take a step back and figure things out.

Sending positive thoughts your way xo and lots of hugs (((hug)))
 
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@dimplesg520 You are definitely not alone here - so glad you reached out. I too was (and still am in many ways) the girl who doesn't take crap from people. So I too was (and still am) taken aback every single time I see how much I put up day in and day out from this one single person in my life. I've battled a lot with myself over it and have connected to it being a huge weakness of mine.

But love is a funny thing - it allowed me to break down those walls and let someone into my world in ways I hadn't allowed. He made me vulnerable... exposed... and I am now able to see that as a STRENGTH rather than a weakness because he has allowed me to reveal layers of myself that I wasn't connected to. So I encourage you to think about it in a similar way -- that you have allowed him to love you in a way that has affected you deeply and in a way that has changed you forever. It's really quite beautiful.

But with that said, you still are that strong woman -- willing to fight and not take crap from anyone... you have not lost that part of yourself, it just may be a little less present in this moment because we are talking about the man that you love and want to help with everything that you have. It's important that while love is beautiful in all it's greatness and even in it's ugliness at times, you still must take care of yourself and make sure your safety is priority number one. Something I've learned through this is that you are not abandoning him by taking a step back, you are taking a step forward in caring for yourself and you can never go wrong when making a decision to do what is best for YOU.

You already have experienced the verbal abuse and even mentioned some physical abuse and regardless of where your man it as in his process, abuse is unacceptable behavior and you need to be clear with yourself and with him regarding that. The threat of suicide is a very scary place to be and I encourage you to seek professional guidance in how to navigate that aspect of the dynamic between you two in this moment -- and to not take on that burden alone. Your fears are real and justified. His threats about it are serious and need to be addressed. But when speaking about you, your needs, your safety, your self-care... remember that you are important too and remember that you are strong even when feeling otherwise.

Be gentle with yourself. Wishing you strength and peace as you move through this transitional phase.
 
@SRE7267 Everything you said rings so, so true with me. I read a quote once that when you really love someone, you can't describe why, or list the qualities out. You just... do. It's so applicable in this case. I love him so much that at times, I am so blind to what is happening. And then I look back in moments of reflection and think, what the heck am I putting up with all this nonsense for!? But there isn't anyone else I would want to put up with this nonsense for or with.

I definitely feel the same as you do about breaking down the walls. He has been the only man in my life that I have really let in and opened up to, and vice versa. It creates a bond that is so strong and above many of the typical society "norms" of a relationship. I'm sure that if people that know me knew what I go through on a daily basis, they would think I was absolutely nuts. But I do it because I love him. I see what you mean about still being that strong woman, and you're right. I need to stand up for myself more, I think. He does lots of things that I forgive or brush away because "they're his PTSD", and that's not fair or healthy for our relationship. He does have PTSD and sometimes certain things can slide by because of that, but other things aren't acceptable, and I need to make that clear. There's a difference between being understanding and being taken advantage of, and unfortunately, I toe that line a lot because I don't want to upset him more or distract him from his healing.

I find it so hard to put myself first in these situations because I feel like I'm being selfish. :/ Do you ever feel that way? I feel like when I say I need an afternoon to myself or I want to do something on my own, that I'm being selfish and rude because he feels lonely a lot. Or I feel like if I made more strict boundaries in our relationship as far as the abuse or whatnot, that I would be being too harsh and mean because he can't necessarily control it. I do everything I can for people that I love, and like I said, I definitely struggle with the line between being taken advantage of or not speaking up about my own needs. How do you make yourself feel better about that? I try to tell myself that I have to take care of myself to take care of him, but that doesn't always do much in making me feel more okay with taking me-time.
 
@dimplesg520 - I very much relate to what you said... feeling selfish for taking care of myself is something I very often face, despite knowing that it's anything but selfish. We as caretakers have a skewed outlook -- if someone were treating your man the way that he treats you at times, I am certain you wouldn't stand for it... and if your man needed to take a day or two to step back and take care of himself, you wouldn't think of him as selfish and would probably support his decision So, yes, I often feel selfish for taking my time and doing what I need to do.... but I practice in reminding myself that it's not actually selfish -- it helps me keep things in perspective.

I'm actually struggling with this quite a bit right now. I am just in this place of not really knowing what else I can do. I've been in this struggle going on 14 years of the back and forth... It's basically half of my life and I somehow just got to this point where I'm just simply done. I go through stages of anger (which are the easiest times because I don't WANT to reach out to him.) But then (and mostly) I go through stages of missing him and wanting to reach out -- and then attempting to reach out -- which I have yet to get a response in recent weeks -- which then makes me sad and worried about him because I feel so responsible for him as I've always been the only one he could trust to never turn my back on him. This is when I begin to feel incredibly selfish -- how can I possibly have made this decision to let him go when he's just so vulnerable and lost? Even though I know it's been a good decision for me and my life, I struggle with this very deeply. It affects me more than anything have ever affected me before - my heart breaks over and over and over again. Today is one of those days that I simply feeling crushed.

I find myself constantly in this flux right now where I want to get back to a good place with him -- like I would do ANYTHING in my power to get to a good place with him... but then I just know that it will never happen so I need to see it for what it is and walk away from it without turning back so I don't look back in 14 more years wondering why I'm still in the same place. It will get easier, or so I tell myself. But I love him. I love him so much and I don't want to hurt him. I want him to be safe, to FEEL safe, to be able to trust and I fear that I have broken him by making this choice and I hate to think that I have added to his stress and his struggle while he is going through one of the hardest phases in his life with this PTSD being so present. But I have to take care of me right now. I made the decision this week to remove his contact information from my phone. I have his number in a safe place as I wasn't ready to completely cut ties, but this was a huge step for me. Little by little so I do not find myself wavering about wanting to reach out or not -- when it's not so convenient as sending him a quick text -- then it allows me more time to really process before acting.

Also, I wanted to share this for some reason -- not sure why, but I just heard it when listening to Pandora radio and it spoke to me. It was a song called "Say Something" and the lyrics were just where I'm at right now. I mean not to be all dramatic sounding or anything, but sometimes music with the right lyrics just hit my soul deeply and this one just really got me -- maybe because I'm in my emotional state of ups and downs still, I don't know, but I'll share:

Say something. I'm giving up on you.
I'm sorry that I couldn't get to you.
Anywhere I would have followed you.
Say something I'm giving up on you.
And I will swallow my pride
You're the one that I love.
And I'm saying goodbye...


It's just where I am. Pleading for him to say something or do something to help change our dynamic.... but at the same time having to just turn away from it all. Ugh. It's so hard. I'm in a rough place today. I apologize for rambling. I wanted to respond to you, but have just taken over trying to express myself clearly, but not feeling like I'm able.
 
I think when we know in our hearts that we have done all we should do we can let go. We can still feel sad for losing our friend. I am sad that she is hurting. I have caused myself to hold out hope longer than I should have. I guess it was not my nature to just accept and "give up" on what we had.

I will probably shed a few tears over the holidays, but that will just remind me that I can and do know how to love, and hopefully inspire me find that relationship where I will receive the same. At this time, I know what we had is not right for us. I should not wait in silence and she doesn't want me to.
 
@SRE7267 I feel very connected to that quote right now as well. Just like you, I am struggling to balance being there for my man and taking care of him versus me taking care of myself. I try to think of things in terms of, if he didn't have PTSD, would I be okay with what he is doing/how he is treating me? More and more, it seems the answer is no. I commend you for your braveness for realizing the situation you were in isn't healthy and getting out. It sucks and it's really hard, but I am proud of you for making the choice that, despite all of the things your heart is screaming at you for, you know is right. Perhaps you leaving will not break him, as you fear, but maybe make him stronger -- enough that he takes care of himself and starts to heal, to a point that maybe you can be involved with him again. Or maybe it's enough for him to get the help he needs and not necessarily to get back with you, but just to be a better human being. Time will tell, but either way, the decision you made it very admirable to me.

I find myself flitting back and forth between the decision to leave and staying every single day, more so lately. This past week was especially trying on me, and it seems like when things are bad, my thoughts immediately run to 'why are you putting up with this??' It's really making me question if it's just the typical response when things go wrong, to question your place in the situation, or if maybe it's a piece of me trying to remind myself that this is not a good situation to be in, and I need to get out of it. I don't know. We had a huge argument last week, about him treating me like crap, how I don't deserve it, how I wouldn't put up with it if he didn't have PTSD. He agreed and apologized and we really talked things out, to the point where I thought we were making headway and had left most of the crap behind us. He was happy and truly nice, caring, like his old self. It only lasted for 4 days before his mean side started creeping up again, when I would wake up and say good morning and maybe something else to him, he would be snappy, and when I asked what was wrong, it was "I'm trying not to be mean to you for all the things you do," even though I had literally just woken up and said maybe 3-4 sentences to him.

He is still going to therapy, but unfortunately both doctors had to cancel this week, so he hasn't gone for about a week and a half now. Even then, he goes and when he comes back, he's cranky and rude for the rest of the day, blaming it on therapy. When we try to talk things through, most of the time I feel that, instead of using the tools the therapists give him to help have a productive conversation, he hides behind them and uses them as an excuse for not answering/talking. I'll say something and instead of talking about what I say or responding to it, he will say "you said that in a negative way that sounds like you're attacking me, and I don't do well with that." Which I understand and makes sense. So I'll re-word it or say it differently, and then it's "your tone is very aggressive so I don't want to respond to that." And on and on it goes, him deflecting things because they aren't presented in exactly the right way, and no talking gets done about anything. It's very frustrating and annoying especially to me because not everyone is going to sit there and say something to you in the exact way that doesn't offend you.. but guess what? That's life! You still need to push through it and set your automatic responses aside, look past the tone or whatnot, and get to the root of what they're saying and talk about it. Grr. Anyway.

I can't tell if he is simply trying to establish (more like see how far he can push) the boundaries of our relationship, or what. Last time he had a TBI/PTSD episode, I came home to find his Army knife stuck in the floor of our rental house. I took it away and hid it, and since then he has complained about how he just needs to know where it is, how much he wants a gun, etc. I told him many many times that I do not feel comfortable with him having a weapon right now, and every time he has said he sees where I'm coming from, he agrees, and he won't get one until I feel comfortable. Today, he came home with a $400 bow he bought. In addition to the problem of me not wanting him to have weapons right now, this is the first time we have gotten paid more than $300 every two weeks since July (he has been out of work since then for his PTSD, and just finally got his temporary Army orders two weeks ago), and we have a ton of bills to pay, including $9,000 we had to borrow from my parents in that time, and he's wasting that money on a bow. I've asked him not to let the dog off the leash around our house because we live on a very busy through-street and the dog is Jack Russell with strong hunting instincts. He says he knows, he agrees, he won't do it... and then two days later, I find out he takes him to the park, my parent's house, fishing NEXT TO A HIGHWAY, etc. and lets him off the leash all the time. He asks me what to eat for his diet, I tell him, he turns and eats the complete opposite. It goes on and on.

I feel like my opinions/values/concerns aren't being taken into proper consideration given that we are in a relationship. I can't tell if it's the PTSD, reckless, self-destructing behavior, if he's testing his boundaries, if he just doesn't care or what. But I am really struggling with the choice to leave or stay. I feel like I'm being oppressed (sorry for how dramatic that sounds) and my fun, shiny personality is being beaten down. I can't keep living like this, where we have to have a big, sit-down, all-out argument every two weeks to talk things through and work things out... only for it to last for a few days and then go back to the way things were, with my tolerance for it getting lower and lower. But still, I stay. I wish I was as brave as you, or had the balls to just stop all of this, but I don't right now. I'm not to that absolute point yet, I guess. Or maybe I'm just wishing and wishing things will get better and I don't have to make that choice. Who knows.
 
I have been married to my husband for 8 years (we were friends for 4 years prior to that). We have a 7 year old daughter and two kids from my first marriage (ages 21 and 19). My husband and i have been in and out of therapy for years and he was finally recently diagnosed with PTSD. He is in therapy alone (1x a week) and they are doing EMDR (rapid eye movement). The last 8 years have been so hard and I have wanted to leave so many times, but couldn't get myself to do it. I keep having the same feeling that now that there is a diagnosis, maybe he will get better and become the man i married. The problems with our relationship started right away after we moved in together (about 6 months before married) and i made every excuse in the book on why he wasn't happy. My older son wound up moving out and living with his father because he couldn't deal with the mood swings of my husband and felt that our house was too depressing. I am a very lively, happy person and I feel like I am being dragged down the rabbit hole...... My husband is a caring, loving person underneath all of his unhappiness and meanness. I almost wish he would hit me so I can show him how he is hurting me with his verbal abuse. Our lives are so messed up. I can go on for hours and hours, but i am sure you all heard it before.....I am just now opening up my eyes and seeing that there may not be an end to this nightmare.

What advise would you all give me???? hang on a little longer and see how his therapy goes or get the heck out????
 
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