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Relationship How To Let Him Go?

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It's the truth. If someone isn't ready, they are not ready. The external factors in life are not yours to choose.

We as a partner have to decide how long we can hold on, and then let go. I know we're not suppose to look to the board as therapy, but in a way, meeting and talking with everyone here has helped. Hopefully my view has helped you and others.
 
Yes @aj1 , it does help. But I should correct myself above; though it is no one's fault, as a sufferer it is (our) job to take responsibility for our own internal toxic shame. The exception being if a supporter reveals in words or actions they themself feel that same or equivalent view of the sufferer as the sufferer does, well I think that's insurmountable and it's better for all parties the sufferer leaves. But you have given no indication you did that or felt that way, so you could not do more.
 
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It is a sufferer's job to work on removing that toxic shame. I don't think I could ever feel toxic shame towards a sufferer. What I believed, and still believe is that life is trying to put a person full of love in your life to balance the suffering in yours. Reading so many of these stories they are very similar.

I think many supporters feel that calling, and this is why we fight to keep you and cannot let go. I know this might get called trying to be a fixer, or a care giver, and I am sure that happens. It is just how I am feeling at the moment as I try to make sense of it.
 
@aj1 , I have never thought of such a thing ( :confused: ?). I guess because the emphasis is always on fixing one's self. So thank you for that. Perhaps supporters are kinder towards sufferers than sufferers can be towards themselves.

What I mean is there is not always much internal hope, belief or even thought at all about a balance to suffering ,or a presence or there being a possibility of something else. The ptsd never ends, or the things and symptoms that go with it can be quite relentless. (And hence why supporters can be judged or unappreciated by sufferers too, though lots of sufferers don't want to put that on someone, either, they want them to have the opposite.)

I'm sorry for misunderstanding and I'm sorry for your situation and the painfulness of it. :hug:
 
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Thanks @Junebug. This is hard, and it is why we need to communicate. Even if I got another chance to communicate all of my feelings, understanding, and love, would it be enough. Would it just prolong the inevitable? Is that fair to her? Fair to me? That is the question as a supporter one must answer. No two are alike.

I think this is the closure issue so many people have. Maybe she has closure right now, and my attempt would make it raw again. I don't want to put that on her. I also don't want to let go but I keep wondering if that feeling is selfish.

I think we can all apply that however best fits your situation. These are just my thoughts.
 
I want to add one more thought. Life was also putting a person of suffering into our lives for some reason. We were both brought together and it was not all for nothing. I am changed forever, and not negatively. Hopefully the same holds true for everyone.

I am trying to understand the full "why" of it, but that will just have to come later.
 
Oh @aj1 , you have great depth and I think you have hit a huge nail on the head. Just my description only, but having ptsd seems to bring along with it for the sufferer a great and almost impossible desire for 'closure'- closure from the ptsd, from the thoughts and fears and reactions. Often, relationship-wise, I did not 'need' closure (and I did awful things- just left people without a word or contact ever again). Or I had closure, or numbness, or fear, or self-rejection, it seemed better for everyone, or I just 'did' it. I needed closure from the fear and pressure, perhaps even what the relationship (if good) suggested: trust, intimacy, being loved. PTSD is very much like a 3rd person in relationships, that a 'sufferer' (speaking for myself) is trying to get closure from.

It's somewhat better as I struggle against it, but I don't know if I could ever entirely overcome it. Not on my own.

Apart from the obvious- getting out of denial, therapy, trying to overcome it, tryiing to overcome toxic shame or self-hatred (etc), even on a good and 'practical' day, questions or fears can arise. How can you give to a partner what they need, if you might have intimacy issues, trust issues, scars (in and out)? Simple things, like knowing a good event might exhaust you for 2 or 3 days. Or how does one sleep (I mean literally) with a partner when you fear night terrors, night sweats, etc? (Perhaps these are things women think about more). I think that no one is looking specifically for those challenges in a partner. The 'baby steps' are so small, such as trust, being even able to 'remember' the good things. Most people would have 2 kids in the time it might take some sufferers to really begin to trust. :( I am sure life could be easier for you with someone without this. Not perfect perhaps, but easier.

I think you never re-open (in a negative way) old wounds by giving love or forgiveness. But you deserve love too, and there are easier options in life than bearing with or battling ptsd.

But, I have learned as I get much older, there are very few decisions that can be understood from the outside. Sometimes people's hearts have to guide them. Some relationships here have succeeded because it seems the partner would not give up, or could accept such bad with the good (not bad behaviour but ptsd-influenced realities). But I still am sure the supporters must have had some terribly heart-breaking and challenging times. And many sufferers say they wish their SO could have more than they can give.

Best wishes.
 
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but having ptsd seems to bring along with it for the sufferer a great and almost impossible desire for 'closure'- closure from the ptsd, from the thoughts and fears and reactions

Yes, yes, and yes.

PTSD is very much like a 3rd person in relationships,

So very true.

Most people would have 2 kids in the time it might take some sufferers to really begin to trust.

And, this, too, bang on.

No real thoughts, as I've been on both sides of this fence. And both sides hurt like a mofo. Except the only reprieve for the sufferer is that extricating yourself from the situation sometimes relieves so much stress that it seems like the right decision. So you tell yourself that you are bad for people and stay away because you don't want to hurt something you love, when in reality, you're just trying to protect yourself the only way you know how (with maladaptive coping mechanisms). When it is all too much, the relief that is felt by leaving someone is so full on that it trumps the other person's feelings. And it's heartbreaking, again, for all.

Edited to all: I can't stress enough, however, just how much relief is felt by leaving a relationship. As I have PTSD and have had it since I was a kid, I don't know what it's like "not" to have it, but personally, when in a relationship, I can't function correctly most of the time, so bad is my anxiety. Therapy helps, but so does time. And I've learned, the hard way, that "time" may mean days, weeks, months before I'm "normal" again. This fact breaks my heart in a way that nothing else can, because I want nothing else than to be in a healthy relationship. But each time, my PTSD rules the roost and I run. I'm so sorry for all that we sufferers put supporters through.
 
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Hello Everyone! Quick update.. My ex husband still wants the divorce, we are still going through the process. He still with his "new girlfriend" but I've been dealing with my girls and new life fine. I've been going to church & God is helping heal from this fatal nightmare. I hope and wish the best for him.

About a month ago he told me his feelings "didn't matter" not sure exactly what he meant, not sure what's going through his head. A few days after that, he reminded me again that he doesn't have feelings for me & basically made it clear to me to leave him alone because he will never come back. He seems happy now so that's all that matters, I guess.

I am trying my best to stay healthy and stress free for my twins ! Hope everyone is doing better!
 
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Yes I hope everyone is doing better. I'm sorry desperatewife, your children are so blessed to have a mom so strong. :hug: I hope somehow you can take care of you.

Strange thing is, take away ptsd and everything 'feels' normal. Soon as it rears it's head (within minutes?) everything goes south in a really big way (internal compass/ trust/ fear). :(

Hugs to all.
 
This post just spoke to me. I am going through the same situation. Im trying to be that "friend" but it hurts, and for how long am I going to be stuck in the friend zone?

@SRE7267 I couldn't agree more with your post. He is my soulmate as well. If it weren't for Ptsd, our relationship would be ideal. He told me to move on, let go, but he still wants to be part of my life?! Its all too confusing for me. Im sure your decision was the best for you. I love him, but can i put myself through all of this uncertainty? What if he never really comes back to me?

Are you really letting go all together?
 
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