Sexual Assault I didn't say no, but i didn't say yes.

[shimmerz]

The word "feminism" has been co-opted by people with so many different philosophies that the term has become meaningless.

I completely agree with this. Long gone are the bra burning days. All those women got were saggy boobs. Lesson learned.

However, I will never forget the first woman bus driver I ever saw. It was such a shock I remember exactly where I was, who I was with, what kind of day it was. Like WOW~! I had been told all my life that women couldn't drive a bus. I had never thought to ask myself why women couldn't drive a bus.

Back 30 or so years ago, I paid for bills in the family along with my husband. When I divorced I was told that I didn't have a credit score (which is worse than having a bad one), my husband did. So he got to buy a house. I had an impossible time finding a rental until I lied about the divorce and secured the lease with a promise that my husband was traveling and I was having to make arrangements on my own. So many stories.... so disempowering if I had let it be.

We have actually come a long way in that way but do still have a long way to go.

may or may not advocate equality for all genders.

Right. Which is why actions are much more important than words. Want to be treated like an adult? Then act like an adult. Advocate for yourself. Know what you do and don't want. Then people won't need to be legislated into respecting you. You will have earned it. Walk the walk, talk the talk and advocate for equality for yourself and others. I hate this whiny stuff about 'you need to respect me, you need to respect me' and them not giving a shit about respecting anyone else. Selfish. Whiny. I can't be bothered listening to it anymore.

I would also like to mention that is that it is my experience that people who find appropriate words (rhetoric?) for these concepts tend to throw them around in media and reports that cost billions of dollars and turn them into tools to divide people socially and the reports get lost in dust on decision makers secretaries desks.

Want something? Figure out how to get it without destroying others in the process.
Don't want something? Learn how to say no. And mean it. And live like you mean it.

lol. Okay, I am going to back out of this one now I think. I feel like I am a little rantish about it. Sorry guys.

 

[ILoveLife]

I think I'm talking with my country's biases in mind, to be honest. Here women aren't given the time of day still. A woman went to jail for not being submissive by not accepting a beating from her husband, so its still necessary here to call it feminism.

 

[mumstheword]

I think I'm talking with my country's biases in mind, to be honest. Here women aren't given the time of d...

Absolutely fair enough. I hope it catches on in the places that it's really relevant.

Here, there's plenty of whinging but we've even had a female prime minister (leader of the country), fairly lately and we have a legal and social service system that supports women in crisis disproportionately.

My concern is more around children's rights and I have 5 sons so I don't want them growing up feeling "man shamed" just for being blokes, which is a distinct possibility in the current PC climate.

 

[somerandomguy]

A woman went to jail for not being submissive by not accepting a beating from her husband, so its still necessary here to call it feminism.

That's terrible. Obviously traditional-style feminism is still necessary in many if not most parts of the world. It's a fact that women around the world, in general, are still regarded as inferior to men. I think a lot of people in the USA see ourselves as powerless to act when it comes to other countries and cultures.

I think a lot of us men in general see ourselves as powerless to act, period. I don't harass anyone. I'm in a pretty equal relationship. I have literally no stakes in the game, but I still feel guilty and dirty when "men" are condemned en masse.

 

[ILoveLife]

I get that and empathize with it, don't want that either.

PC climate

PC has become the new hate non speech.

I think a lot of people in the USA see ourselves as powerless to act when it comes to other countries and cultures

You don't have to. Most people believe that cultures evolve on their own. For a fact, IS intervention has done more harm then good in a lot of places. Not the mainstreamUUS intervention in the world wars, but in the middle east for example. I'm getting heat for this, I'm sure.

I think a lot of us men in general see ourselves as powerless to act, period.

I get that. I feel powerless too.

 

[Sweetleaf]

Long gone are the bra burning days. All those women got were saggy boobs

I'm pretty sure that the whole "not wearing a bra will give you saggy boobs" thing is just a myth. Maybe boob size is a factor, but, I think that age and having children is probably the main cause of saggy boobs. Some even argue that bras cause saggy boobs by not letting the boobs support themselves and weakening the connective tissue.

 

[shimmerz]

Clearly you took that statement much more seriously than it was presented. :D

 

[EveHarrington]

I'm pretty sure that the whole "not wearing a bra will give you saggy boobs" thing is just a myth. Ma...

I’ve heard the same, but at this point I’m not going to run around bra-less! Well not out of the house anyway. Lol.

 

[Sweetleaf]

Clearly you took that statement much more seriously than it was presented. :D

Lol I was cracking a smile while writing it. I knew you were making a joke but thought it'd be funny to comment on it anyway. Plus it's an issue that's close to my heart. Literally. Lol.

at this point I’m not going to run around bra-less!

Maybe this is TMI to some, but I actually go braless most of the time, even outside the house. :bag:
I lost just about all my clothes after leaving my psycho ex, and right now I have one bra >.<
I feel more comfortable wearing other undergarments (tanks etc) to just cover them, unless I'm moving around a lot, working out, biking, etc., then I need support lol.
But, my breast size is on the smaller end, they hold their shape well, and they don't like, look gross through my clothes if that makes sense? At least I don't think so :/ lol. I mostly wear baggy hoodies and stuff too. I prefer to hide myself.