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I found my therapist's home address

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I don't know whether I should tell her I did this. I know I shouldn't have done it.

I feel terrible.
I don't think she will terminate.
I won't ever go near her home or anything like that (I sincerely hope I wouldn't anyway, but I also hope that I wouldn't be the client who looks up their therapist's address and yet here I am).

I feel stuck now between telling her and not telling her. Both are awful.
It's not like me to do something like that. I have been with her for 3 1/2 years and whilst I have pushed boundaires I think with the odd email here and there. I tend to respect her boundaires and value them. So doing this is not in line with how I want to be.

Any advice?
 
I think we all have this curiosity about our therapist, it is similiar to seeing your school teacher in a setting outside school and realizing they have a life outside of school. It humanize them. I don’t see the need to tell them unless you want to explore the why. Stop at the line you feel you crossed and continue to remind yourself of the boundaries of curiosity.
 
Just out of curiosity - you said that you've "pushed boundaries" by sending emails? What is her rationale behind not wanting a client to send her an email? (If that's what you meant.) The reason I ask is that if she's tetchy enough about basic emails, if you tell her you have her home address, she might very-well terminate. I don't mean to induce even more anxiety than I am sure you are already feeling (nor am I certain that I've interpreted your statement accurately) but it is something to consider.

If you have no intention of ever driving past her home and never, ever would - then perhaps it's best to simply close the tab and forget the information. It's not likely you will remember it if you don't repeat it to yourself and encode it into your long-term memory. Is that the right thing to do? It depends. Do you believe this to be the first step in a series of increasingly escalating problematic behaviors? (At the very severe end of the spectrum, potentially escalating into stalking or worse?)

Or is it your attempt to self-soothe in the moment?
 
Thanks @Teamwork and @Weemie
I'm freaking out, but these responses help.

I think I did it to feel connection as I am out of sorts these last few days. So I think I get why I did it. And I think I need to be clear with myself that it ends there.

.@weemie: the emailing thing. She has allowed email. In the UK it's not as common in the US/CAnada about emailing. She has boundaires about it. She has agreed that I haven't pushed boundaires with it but I still think I did. She explores with me when I email about why I am. So it's always reviewed.

What I am trying to tell myself is that she knows her address is public. So she must know that some clients are going to look that up. I don't think she would terminate me as I think she would expect it to happen with some clients?

I think , at this moment, I am freaking out because I did it and I wish I hadn't, but I have. And also, because I am freaking out about it, not telling her feels like keeping a secret, which means there might not be connection with her, which freaks me out more because I *need* that connection.

I also wonder if I am just sabotaging at the moment. I feel a bit mad. In a calm but totally not calm way.
 
Do you believe this to be the first step in a series of increasingly escalating problematic behaviors? (At the very severe end of the spectrum, potentially escalating into stalking or worse?)

Or is it your attempt to self-soothe in the moment?
I think I was trying to self soothe.

I absolutely hope it isn't the start of stalking or some weird shit. I don't have a history of that sort of behaviour. So I got to go on history of how I behave as opposed to my fear that I have suddenly turned into an uncontrollable terrible person.
 
So I would advise that you do tell her, because it’s something that needs to be worked through - either with her, or another therapist.

You seem to be quite worried & insecure over your connection with her, why you need it, what it means to you etc This is obviously quite a big step to look up her personal address so I’d hope she will see that it came from a place of connection-seeking rather than anything else, and be able to work through with you why you felt you needed to have that information in the moment.
 
She has agreed that I haven't pushed boundaires with it but I still think I did.
That's kind of interesting and might be worth exploring. It's HER boundary, right? So how does it work that SHE doesn't think you pushed anything but you think she's wrong?

I think a lot of people do things like search online for their T's address. I didn't have to. My T told me where he lives in conversation. So, obviously, he wasn't worried about it. I'm guessing your T isn't worried about it either or she wouldn't have made her address publicly available. I don't think you did anything wrong, you did something human. Seems like the "problem" really might be where all this anxiety comes from.
 
I don't have a history of that sort of behaviour. So I got to go on history of how I behave as opposed to my fear that I have suddenly turned into an uncontrollable terrible person.

Past behavior is a pretty good indicator of future behavior, so the fact that you haven't behaved like this in the past (bear in mind, though, that terms like "stalk" are extremely loaded words and most stalkers would not define any of their past behavior as "stalkerish" - again, we've known one another for a little while now so please do not take this to mean I think you are a stalker, lol) - and I only know you from what you post online, but you don't seem "stalkerish" to me. Those vibes are generally pretty glaring. The fact that you've owned up to it here, in the terms that you have, also suggests you do not fit this description.

You (seem to) have a fairly ordinary level of transference with your therapist for the level of treatment you engage in, the modalities you use, and the issues you're treating. You also demonstrate quite good adherence to normalized social boundaries and rules in your interactions on this website.

In Canada at least all the therapists I've ever known, email is not at all a common method of between-session communication (in fact Kayla is the first therapist I have ever sent emails to, beyond the scope of scheduling) - has your therapist just made it clear that you can email her and that she simply won't respond until your session time, or was it communicated like "ZERO emails outside of session EVER" or whatever?

That would make a difference. My therapist doesn't do any kind of therapy over email, the only reason I email her is to send her journal entries or media relevant to the upcoming session. A couple of times I emailed her when I was psychotic, but even in a deeply dysregulated state, I did not expect her to reply. (She was nice enough to do so on both occasions, with brief answers.) But what I mean is, her boundaries are reasonable and normal, whereas something stricter than that seems unnecessarily... hostile? I guess? Toward clients? Especially clients with childhood trauma.

In a perfect world I would recommend being honest with her because it would certainly lead you to explore how your transference at times delves into unhealthy coping mechanisms (such as searching for your therapist's personal information when upset) and if your therapist were experienced with transference she would be able to get a lot of meat out of that session, and I am sure it would do a lot to solidify the therapeutic alliance you both have.

But again, the email boundary is weird to me, and if she's that harsh in one area, there is the potential for her to be even harsher when it comes to her data. Unlike others on this thread I don't require much of a therapeutic alliance to actually "get down to business," so I suppose there may be a bit of my own inability to fully understand the emotional component going on here.

My rationale is, if it were me, and I knew I'd be irreparably harmed if my therapist terminated me for a boundary violation, I could easily gain benefit from our sessions while electing to keep that to myself. But then again, the fact that I could gain benefit either way, is probably indicative of my lack of overall attachment to my therapist. Whereas your issues stem solely from your over-attachment. Still, I do encourage you to put your best interests first. Whether that is telling her the truth or omitting it.
 
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What I am trying to tell myself is that she knows her address is public. So she must know that some clients are going to look that up. I don't think she would terminate me as I think she would expect it to happen with some clients?
I've done this. And no, I didn't tell him. You are right--their addresses (and other info) are public.
 
I am freaking out because I did it and I wish I hadn't, but I have. And also, because I am freaking out about it, not telling her feels like keeping a secret, which means there might not be connection
I think you were trying to self soothe too. And now it sounds like some judgment (self-abandonment) for having had a need for soothing and comfort.

The thing about the secrets seems relevant and worth exploring. Before my recovery I had a compulsion to tell almost anyone all kinds of private information about myself and that compulsion is still being healed. My T helped me understand that it’s normal and healthy to keep secrets, even from people very close to us, it’s self-care and self-protection. Because we are strong enough to hold that for ourselves or for someone else.

If I recall correctly your mom was very invasive with your privacy on multiple levels, it seems she would have liked to know everything about you inside and out. Perhaps this old dynamic is related to the feeling that if you have a secret you lose connection?
I would advise that you do tell her, because it’s something that needs to be worked through
For what it’s worth I’m on the other side of this fence. I went through almost the same thing. Found out my T’s address and agonized about it in my diary, self-judgment and desperate to tell her and receive mercy. I think it was Freida who helped me work through it with a question like, “What is the goal of telling her? Is the goal is to help her because you think she might be unaware that her address is public and she might be stalked by other clients? Or is the goal for her to soothe you for crossing her boundary and if that’s the case, what kind of position does that put her in? What rupture and/or abandonment might that exchange be attempting to resurrect?”

It’s normal for adults to cope with their own actions without putting the responsibilities for managing their emotions on someone else.

My suggestion would be to look at all the feelings and associated thoughts/memories that came up before during and after the event and begin to pinpoint areas to focus on. Also, a safe way to talk about something without implicating yourself is to talk around it by saying something like, “What would you do, how would you feel if?” “Why do you think some clients might?” “I had this dream where I, I had a friend who” and so on.
 
Thank you all. I have therapy on 5 minutes and I don't know how the hell to be. I will come back to your replies. I have them in my head.
Will make a decision in session about whether I am telling her or not today.
I've got myself so worked up about it I'm close to tears. Which makes me think I am going to have to tell her as sitting here like this and not telling her makes no sense.
I think I am just making things so much worse for myself. Can't self soothe!
Have worked myself up into a state.
 
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