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I Have Been In Rage Mode

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winterose

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I started seeing just how deep the betrayals have gone. I am also seeing what I did deserve as a child. What would I have become if I had been given unconditional love as a child? The pains of facing this is so intense.

It's like, I am seeing everything with new eyes. I have to keep going, even though my heart is breaking. I hate predators! I hate what they have done to me, what they did to my friends who didn't make it.


I hate what they have done to too many of us. I hurt so bad right now and I am so angry at the same time.
 
Remember Charles Bronson, the vigilante movie? I went through a long, long period in my 30's where that was what I wanted to be when I grew up. I'd gone through, was still going through the domestic abuse/criminal justice system/wealthy person/ poor person/ child custody/ stalking..... rage? Oi. I still want to go there sometimes, all these years later simply can't allow it in my head. The PTSD is still there, there just isn't room for an entire courthouse filled with schmucks and a tubby, alcoholic, homicidal abuser. My point is that gosh, how normal YOU are, how abnormal was the universe you existed in where these things happened to a child. How surreal is the larger universe where this stuff is not only allowed to continue, but these vermin and lice sill slither amongst us unimpeded? There's the rage, we all see it, how terrible you have to be there so often, I'm sorry.

Our stories, your story trumps them out of their pits and holes in the ground every, single time you tell it. Look at Penn State, the national spotlight flushed out entrenched postitions on the part of a dangerous, malignant predator and made a complacent public aware of these poisonous reptiles being kept like pets in our midst. The Paterno family can hire alllll the investigators on the planet, it changes nothing. Anyone who kept a pedophile like a useful pet on a gilded leash like that is deserving of our censure. Betrayal? Oi. My point is, it may feel as if you've acheived nothing but just telling your story shines a light on these Gollums of the polite world.

And oh my, I just finished saying this in another thread. In all the responsibility and sheer blame to go around when there's an abused child laying on an examination table, sobbing, it's time to hand out that stopped buck by the handful to every, single adult who knew something and did nothing. Not one nickel stops anywhere near that child, not one penny, nothing. A victim of childhood abuse is a victim, end of conversation, a glowingly innocent by-stander sucked into someone's genuinely evil toils.
 
Well said anni. Why I fight them in the only arena I am able to. I am a long time fan of Andrew Vachss and a member of Protect. I want to respond more but the exhaustion of not sleeping well has caught up with me. My brain is a bit fried. Know your words are taken in and felt in heart.
 
Anger is a necessary part of the healing process. And I just posted about how when I'm angry I get depressed and vice versa. They go together it seems to me.

I think they key thing for you to see is like you said: seeing with new eyes. That is a huge victory! I know (boy do I know) how it hurts and how being angry can sometimes feel like you're out of control. But for now, just enjoy your new eyes!
 
Yes, and save your energy for where you see it's most valuable, of course. I can blah blah blah until the cows come home but am not DOING a ton. You belong to something proactive and hugely helpful, please know you have all our respect and support. No acknowledgement required of anything written here, just keep up the awesome work where possible. :tup:
 
How can I not become a member of Protect. I never ever want other children to go through what we have. I dont need a tax donation to do what's right. It's something we can all do. Im not content to sit back and just heal myself but to take this pain and rage and fix it to be a better fighter. I can't fix what happened to me, but I sure as hell can be apart of folks who are fixing it that people are held accountable for not protecting a kid(s)
 
Yes, agreed. I belong to one of the national domestic abuse organisations, am guessing most here will end up with something, or more than one, valuable voices. I have a bug up my nose on elder abuse at the moment, another segment of society with zero voice and no survivers to collect groups long term. There are none. I'm being carefully discredited as we speak for getting on this subject, smoke and mirrors, the abusers across the board just love to distract from their heinous acts, point fingers everywhere around the circle.

Yes, somewhere to GO with all the rage and injustice, stop these people in their tracks and remove them from causing more evil, shine a light on them. I'm sorry, after alllll the analysis, it's the only thing you can come up with, that the deliberate abuse of helpless humans is just plain evil, those who perpetrate it evil themselves.
 
Work with domestics, elder abuse, bullying, animal abuse, all linked to the same type of criminal. Those who get pleasure in hurting others. Thank you for your work too. And dont be sorry about thinking. It's nice to see actually. Alot of what you say keeps me thinking too..in the right directions.
 
Such a good place to channel that anger.
Without help and direction, those who have been abused often become abusers-very unintentional. For me, part of the healing process has been helping others. It begins with noticing the injustices. Sometimes its easier to help others than our own family members.

A couple of years ago, my niece age 40 confided in me that while a teen, and her parents in a nasty divorce, she was sexually abused by her friends father where she spent much of her time. She went to therapy briefly. I encouraged her to share this, among other things such as partner abuse beginning as a teen. She discontinued therapy before long.

While its my opinion that she abuses alcohol and drugs, I have seen it go from recreational to a real problem over the past 2 years. She has had a long history of chosing abusive men. I have also seen her very verbally abusive many times, a few toward me. I tend to view my gift of empathy as my greatest strength and my greatest weakness. Often I have just let her blow off steam. A couple of months ago, we went to get carry out dinner at our local pub. She was not drunk but had a couple. She started a fight with a woman who, most likely accidently bumped her. She "wanted to take it outside". I got her out of there..

Last night a few of us went to the same pub. It was a last minute plan for pm and I agreed to go for a couple of hours because I had to be up early for a construction project. She demanded that the group leave and go to her house to drink, and that way no driving, we can spend night. Im not interested in getting inebriated and feeling sick. When I declined due to other committments, she became verbal and then threatened to hit me in the face. Then she came at me and another friend stopped her.

I have a real dicotomy here. At this point, I want nothing to do with her. My mother was a raging alcoholic. Sisters fought with each other and with mother, physically while teens. I was less than 5. My therapist says that this is root of ptsd. There is a lot of anger in my family, misdirected mostly, and raging at times. I avoid most family due to this. At one point, my raging sister needed to live with me for a couple of months and it set me back a year. She screamed at dogs, MF'ed everything, nothing was ever good enough, etc.

I am completely anti violence. There is no excuse for violence in my opinion. Yet they are around me. In my nieces case, I feel guilty because I want to desert her. Yet I am fragile in some ways while strong in others. My attempts to help have usually cost me. When we reach down to help pull someone else up, we risk being pulled down as well. This has happened to me in the past.

The past couple of months, I have felt very overwhelmed with medical and financial primarily. Having so much pain that it also distracts in my abilities. While I have not raged, I have been irritable with incompetent people, such as clerks, or automated phone calls, computer malfunctions, etc. I become frustrated and just cant think straight.

I know that my niece has so much anger tied to the abuse that she experienced. She was only about 15 when sexually abused by friends dad. Went into relationship with abusive boyfriend 3 years older. She gets really angry when talking about all of this, and is mad at dad for having affair which caused parents divorce and moms inability to be there for her. Anger about every other abusive guy since, but continues to hop from one crappy guy to another and escalating substance use, to the point that it has caused problems in my immediate family. (picking her up drunk, her staying at my house and keeping me up all night, etc). I dont want to be a victim anymore.

I recently read a sign that said "Are you depressed, do you suffer low self esteem, or are you just surrounded by assholes" Often we could not protect ourselves then, but we can now. And if we can protect ourselves and allow people in our life that enhances it, then we can heal. If we can do that, we can speak out for others. We cant save everybody.
 
Thanks for unloading that, Brat. I SO, so, so much mean that. I personally have a terrible, awful time being able to claim just plain old pain with this stuff. I can write long posts, never truly about the consequences of other's actions on my life because like alllll of us I just simply do not think I deserve the attention. Bottom line. I read things like this, where some members can elucidate their pain, seems awfully healthy to be able to do that.

I'm sure you already know this, but just because you feel her pain and can see the entire story in a blink doesn't mean she gets to redirect her pain at you and you get to take it. So what, she's in pain, that means the nearest kind person has to blow up their own healing to acommodate her fear of getting better? It's still an abysmal way to treat another human being the same way she was treated more than abysmally. Once she knows the dynamics of her behaviour, she owns it. That isn't meant to come across as cold, it's not. No one can heal for another person, her rage is escape. As awful as she's feeling, it's going to get worse the further into that dead-end cave she allows herself to go. She'll be alone, too, having managed to alienate or wear out every, single person who ever cared what happened to her. So, she is told what she is doing and why, supported, ( nagged ) and helped when choices are made for the positive. If not, yes, tough to do but the cord has to be cut. These people can't be kept as noxious pets for their lifetimes.

When you draw the line, she'll get to further self destruct, of course, be able to hate herself more, might even be what she's shooting for so she'll be free from that niggling sense of RIGHT, hence guilt you put into her head which arises in your presence. Maybe do both, draw the clear picture of why she is the way she is ( although of course she knows ), draw the BIG line with her treatment of you, and also be the firm cheerleader from a distance. Or a big pain in the backside, never quite letting her off the hook expectation-wise, you know?

It can't be easy, dealing with all the rage around you. For what it's worth, it might feel like you're not doing at all well but it sounds out here like you're doing extremely well. Like I said, thanks very much for posting all that.
 
Winterose, I am sorry I am just seeing this thread now. I am glad that you have had responses that echo what I know in my heart but couldn't have said half so well. I am glad you are feeling that anger and directing it towards the people that it needs to be directed at. It is a justified anger.

I have been thinking about how to stand up and speak out. I have told you before that I admire that you are a member of an organization that does speak out and make the public aware. That takes the right kind of anger directed at the right people and the inner strength to stand your ground. You have both of those.

Without being able to put the blame and the anger where it belongs can any of us ever truly begin to heal? The difficult part after that is mourning what we could have been and accepting where we are right now. We can't change the past but what we can change is how we view where we have been and go forward with those changed perceptions.

Which is easier said than done and just writing this post out has helped me figure that out.
 
Thanks Anni.
I am sorry for unloading and hope it was not inappropriate for the topic. I know that for myself, when I read others that allow escalation of bad behaviors due to empathy, guilt, wanting to help, etc, I see how they deserve to be treated right. They deserve to be treated with respect and not blamed or be abused by someone else's anger. Then I end up recognizing the same in myself and know that I need to keep in check to regain a healthy environment. So your words mean a lot to me.

Unfortunately, my niece does not know the dynamics of her behavior. She has quite a few friends and her parents are there for her in their own way. I think she will self destruct further before it gets better. Very hard for me to watch because of so many premature deaths of family or friends due to high risk behavior. She has been feeding the alcohol, now some drugs, and her boyfriend said that she quit taking her anti depressant. She knows that I have ptsd but thinks it a bunch of psychological babble. She will get angry and vent at times but wont seek therapy for it. The few sessions she had was initiated by her daughter. Her 13 yr old asked to see a counselor, and during this time, requested joint and individual with my niece.

Those of you who belong to organizations that speak out are doing such a good thing for yourselves and community. Often we cannot reach the ones we love, but we can help ourselves and those who want and seek help. Thank you for your encouragement Anni. I dont know Im doing so great, but I am striving forward one day at a time.

I need to stop now as each time I post something I get a warning. I just signed notice and it appears it is for grammar. I never know specifically what I have done as it is corrected when notified.
 
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