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I Have Given Up On Life, How Do I Recover?

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Just a quick one, does/did everyone know that it is a natural method to relax by breathing in with the nose and slowly breathing out with your mouth, or was I just dumb?

Most of my life what prevented me from achievement was my hyper activity! I needed to learn to relax, not one doctor nor specialist ever said so!
 
"I have heard that "thoughts are everything", if this is true I am in a bad way, all I think of is negative thoughts and the fact I have no reason to live and I shouldn't have been born in the first place!"

When it comes to negative self-talk, thoughts definitely are not 'everything', e.g., they're not anchored in reality. Those of us with anxiety and depression have to learn to cope with negative self-talk, so as not to believe it. I had a social worker tell me, at the beginning of my journey (aka: nightmare), "If you think something bad is going to happen, it will." That statement, which I took out of context, caused me to have a panic-attack, because I was experiencing extreme, anticipatory anxiety at that time. I was in my forties, and had never received treatment for my life-long anxiety and depression. When I heard these words, I thought, "Oh, no. What I fear the most is always going to come true, just because I fear it." I know this sounds crazy.
 
I also used to wish I was dead, it was my mental illness at work.

I also stopped (I had to and am better off for it) smoking weed as it caused me to be depressed and basically had the opposite desired effect.

I once felt that I was going to have a motor vehicle accident for a few weeks and it happened!! Not my fault even, I was stuck at a red traffic light, some guy drove into the back of me, three open lanes , no other traffic, I believe thoughts and/or fears can become reality...

You have to shake/break the bad thoughts, for me, being diagnosed correctly and taking my medicine has helped wonders. I am still a lazy sod but I will get there!
 
Today I have realised that although I feel quite better overall, I feel so lethargic, I get a thought in my mind to do something, it seems doable but then I crash and burn, I don't do it!

I will ask my shrink on Friday.

On another note, I am sure there are many people who are terribly depressed and haven't been helped like myself or they deem themselves to be lost causes? I am sure some of you feel terrible as it is, never mind someone like myself blowing my trumpet saying how much better I am...

I really hope and wish more people would be diagnosed correctly, treated accordingly and become happier and more productive in their lives.

Take care for now.
 
I really do wish that people would diagnose people properly also. I was told that I was depressed and, I should go on medication. I told them f$%^ you. I went to a psychologist and, they told me that I had PTSD and, everything made sense now. I just wish that I didn't have to wait for me to lose my home and, my children to find out.

I have been depressed also. I am getting better too. It just takes time. My cure is comfort food and, sad movies. On another note I do go out and, am very active. I have my ups and, downs but, I am learning to deal with it.
 
Hi all, I read up a bit more on Seroquel, seems like it may be the cause of my lethargy and or the Lithium dose increase as well?

I sleep for 10-12 hours at night and feel like doing absolutely nothing that day after!

I am having the meds review on Friday, hopefully they will get my dose right/improved...
 
Hi Mythor, Seroquel was my saviour! I slept and slept and slept and because I slept everything else became easier. Therapy became possible and I learnt BT, got the symptoms under control and then dove into trauma therapy. I lived in a fog all morning, but it was worth it. It helped me take control of my life, I was able to act on my world and that made all the difference to healing.

That was three years ago. It took me 6 months of insomnia to get off the seroquel. I had to get off as the side effects were getting too severe. I became pre-diabetic and had severe tardif diskynesia. It took six months off seroquel to reverse these side effects - a bit scary!

If I had the choice to do it again, I would. I am stronger now, more in control and way more functional all round. I still can't work formally, but am able to do some work from home and I get 4 or 5 productive days in a week ... I real improvement!

I took a lot of convincing to get me on meds in the first place - I think I wasted about two years getting nowhere - everything came together once on meds. I was lucky, first prescription worked zoloft 100mg seroquel 50mg. I never changed the prescription. I'm still on zoloft and waiting for a nice clear space to start decreasing - holding thumbs!

Hope they figure out your meds soon so that you can stabalise. oh yes! the sedative effects of seroquel lasted about three months, then I hardly felt them at all during the day and still had 10 hour nights!

I'm in Midrand btw. Where about are you?
 
Hi all a nd in this case especially to Shiraz, I am kinda stable with Epilum 800mg x 2, LIthium 600mg x 1 at night, Serequel 100mg at night. Unfortunately I tremble a bit on these meds which I hate because I work and deal with many people at times and when a confrontation with another arises I tremble like an earthquake.

I have to have to drink lots of water during the day but I don't! I hate the stuff, bought a filter but it still tastes the same! The Lithium and Epilum are salts hence needing to flush with water as the body is over salted. My concentration and driving skills have declined somewhat, my speech is disconnected sometimes and when I look at the radio in the car I am almost in the wrong lane at times.

I am doing better now and together with my psychologist with the masters degree (quite good) I am improving slightly over time but I expected more from therapy, wow, they charge so much to only offer "guidance". This amazes me all the time!

Shiraz I live in Orange Grove in Jozzie. Thanks for your post:-)

My therapist has made it clearly evident why and what has made me and what I have to start doing to repair it but I still feel like the child who has been abused, in my case not enough attention and being around a verbally abusive household and always being on edge. I was the sensitive child. My domestic brought me up, she was my mother but she could also not fulfill all my needs.

I live with my dog Sabby, washed him yesterday, boy did he stink, do all my own laundry, cooking and dish cleaning.
 
Horst-I am glad to hear that you are learning to cope with negative thoughts. I am sorry that the therapist who said that if you think something bad will happen, it will, did not provide further explaination. That can leave people not only thinking that something bad will happen, but they are responsible when something bad does happen.

I am a real believer that our thoughts do lead to our feelings, our mood, our experiences, etc most of the time. Of course there are chemical imbalance that can cause the thoughts as well as experiences that cause us to think the way we do. Often those thoughts are rooted in a core belief that we have developed early in life. We have an internal dialogue going on with ourselves all the time, and it is either a self critic or a self nurturer. The good news is that we really can learn to change our beliefs and think more positively.

It is my beliefs that have always got in the way with my happiness, my success, and freedom. In my younger life, it left me discouraged. Those beliefs are so embedded in our personality that they are very hard to break through. In my twenties, I was relatively intellegent, went back to college and did well, was attractive, was motivated and a very hard worker, was honest and intuitive. Yet I would quit things easily. ie, when my car broke down and was without transportation for a few days-I quit my part time job. When we had snow and I could not make it to class, I didn't quit but it caused such enormous anxiety that I considered quitting. I was married to a mean and hateful man that was abusive. At my core belief, I thought something was wrong with me that I did not deserve better. Things like bad snow and broken car seemed almost catastrophic.

I was raised by an alcoholic and missed a lot of school. For me, I was often ridiculed by teachers in this up scale neighborhood for coming to school late because nobody woke me up and I couldnt tell time. As I got a little older, I came to believe that by caring for my mother and not leaving the house, I could control her drinking. As an adult, I could not risk the ridicule for missing or being late to work or class. I still had the belief that I could control my mean, abusive drunk husband.

I eventually got out of the relationship and while life was better, I still struggled and even self medicated for awhile. I got into some good therapy and co-dependency treatment. By this time, the physical effect of the lifetime of stress had its negative effects. I was still able to muster up some hope.

I learned this. Our beliefs lead to thoughts, and our thoughts lead to feelings, and our feeling cause our anxiety and depression. This all leads to certain behaviors that will bring about (either bad things happening, or our perception of bad things happening-awfulizing)

With a lot of therapy and personal work, I was able to turn my beliefs around. My life became very positive. My thoughts were quite nurturing. I did not self criticize. I was very realistic about my abilities. Little problems did not interfere with my success. Snow or a broken car was trivial to me. I just worked around it. I was able to get my masters degree, was very physically fit again and in good health.

Then there were some trauma's in my life. I was stalked. A relative was brutally murdered. Some other things. This brought out my vulnerability when I thought I was stronger. Extreme criticism came from my sisters also raised by alcoholic. My kids were teens and critical and hate their parents at times as most do. I still was able to allow most to roll off my shoulder. I had an accident that caused a brain injury and left me doubtful of my abilities. I was still hanging in there and practicing nurturing self talk but it was very difficult. My sleep was interupted. I had alot of physical pain. I had fears. I found myself less assertive (which will lead to being taken advantage of). Again, its that core belief that can return, such as "why are all these things happening to me-whats wrong with me" or, "I am not lovable" and thats why my family is always mad at me no matter what I do. It may not be reality but if we hear it in our own head enough-it can seem real. Anxiety and depression was present again. I did not quit my job, I hung in there and left with notice to take some time to recover once I was pretty worn down. I was still very stable.

A couple of months into my attempts to recover- I was assaulted in my home by a cop. He insisted I was someone that he arrested in the past, which of course I was not. He was to remove a house guest that would not leave and that was a threat but instead, he assaulted me, took me to the hospital, arrested me for some bogus charge that was dropped. I was stuck with him for a couple of hours, even as he guarded me at the hospital. It was more like a kidnapping He verbally tore me down in any way he could. Following this, I hit rock bottom. That was almost 4 years ago and I have still not emotionally and psychologically recovered. I still do not feel safe in my own home. I still suffer anxiety and depression. The physical injuries and pain are a daily reminder. I dont feel like I have any good choices. Sense of forshortened future. Ptsd sums it up. I have not achieved recovery, but know it is possible. I dont know if I had ptsd from childhood, learned skills, and now have lost them all, or if I just suffered some anxiety and depression before from my circumstances and had low self esteem. Either way, the same things need to happen for me to recover, and that is addressing my thoughts and beliefs as they come up, which I avoid, I am ashamed to say. I avoid any self reflection, and use gambling to avoid it. I need to stop this and do the work.

We all need to find the meds that work best for us. After that, I am a real believer in addressing our beliefs that lead to our thoughts.

I am sorry for the length of this post and if it not helpful, just disregard. Im sorry I am not very good at shortening my thoughts anymore. I hope that this is helpful.
 
Filtered water .... yuck! Try Benne. It is the only water I'll drink, I order enough for a few months at a time and have it delivered, pay online .... easy!

The way you describe your coordination challenges sounds just like me! I was on the freeway oneday - suddenly all this hooting and swerving of cars around me and I'm wondering who the idiot is who is causing all the chaos - then I realise that I am driving in the inside lane and a moment before I had been in the outside. I was the idiot and everyone was swerving to get away from me! That was a few years ago. It really shook me up. Basically, too much cortisol (my research indicates) creates impaired functioning, thus loss of ability to speak easily and loss of spatial orientation, coordination etc.

meds can help with being "on edge", but I find that breathing exercises, guided meditation and affirmations really help a lot. I have some very powerful affirmations for cPTSD. please PM me if you could use them, I can't seem to upload them here.
 
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