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General I Know Ptsd Is Just Manageable, But What About Tbi?

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Maria4v2000

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My Vet has both PTSD & TBI. Funny thing is, his TBI was not caused due to combat, it was caused due to a car accident and than a motorcycle accident. He loves the adreline.

So I have been wondering all week, what symptoms are TBI and what are PTSD? If there is a way to "fix" the TBI that may make the PTSD more manageable?
 
Ahh I don't know much about TBI but plan to look at it more as soon as I have a second spare to do so.

Hubby was caught in a blast nearly 18 years ago and has displayed ptsd symptoms on one scale or another for the last 15 years.

At no point immediatly after his trauma was he given anything other than a cursory x ray of his skull as at the time there were concerns over spinal injuries.

It is only since he was confirmed as having ptsd just over a year ago that anyone has brought up the subject that as he was in the blast it is most likely he sustained a head injury at that time.

We have since discovered that he has a failing pituitary gland that has severely screwed up his production of several "vital to life" hormones. As investigations have shown there is no tumour,disease or familial link involved then the endocrinology consultant is of the opinion that it is down to past TBI.

We are currently in the process of sorting a regeime of replacement hormones out and trying to see if getting the balance right helps him as I for one am sure that the hormonal inbalances have a large part to play in some of his wilder symptoms.

I mean who among us does not remember the havoc that puberty,pregnancy or being pre menstrual can cause?

Part of his hormone issues is that he has not been producing enough testosterone this then leads to a heightened level of the female hormones which did not suprise me at all to hear as I dont know How many times over the years I'd looked and thought.."hang on I thought it was supposed to be me who got to have PMT"
 
Thank you for the informative response. I think I should take him back to the doctor. At this time he refuses to go, but I am going to wait a little bit and try again. He has been in and out of doctors for awhile and I feel he is at his giving up point. Good thing is he has finally decided to collect disability from VA.

I produce to much testosterone! Which is why I am always trying to be the alpha dog, which hits a trigger spot for him.


Good luck, I hope they find something that works for him.
 
Wish I could point you to specific things but back when I was looking for information at the start of this "journey" I remember seeing some articles about TBI. I assume you did a search here on the forum to see if there is anything of assistance.

Hope you find something that helps.

ISH
 
Thank you, I did and I also googled, but no such luck yet. I was hoping to hear maybe of personal experiences.
 
My husband also suffers from PTSD and a TBI from a blast. He went through some pretty intense counseling for his PTSD, but the TBI still leaves us frustrated most of the time. I can't get any "real" answers from anyone regarding what we intend to do about it. I've learned to be patient with him. If he can't remember me asking him to do something I try to not get irritated, and understand that it isn't a choice, but a symptom.

Initially, they refused to even treat the TBI due to his PTSD, saying that the symptoms mirror each other and they could not determine which was which until he was able to sleep at night and begin to feel more in control. Now they spend a lot of time on other physical issues due to his deployments, but seem to be at a stand still with the TBI. I'll be sure to report in as I learn more.
 
SamMcall, Some of what I saw was a few years back here. I scanned back and saw a few by searching brain injury. Not trying to augmentative at all, just trying to help.

If you are looking for information, I was checking iTunes for podcasts just now. I know there were some at some point. I had been looking for information because my wife had ECT and I know it causes increased intracranial pressure and was wondering of any correlation. I can't give specifics but I remember seeing some things there. Not the same as asking for personal stories here, I know.

I did run across this book "Faces of PTSD and TBI: One Journalist's Crusade To Improve Tratment For Our Veterans" by Eric Newhouse. I have NO idea if it is anything you would find helpful but wanted to bring it to your attention.

ISH
 
It depends what the extent of his injuries are. On some level, most TBI can be treated to a certain degree with a dedicated treatment team. TBI can cause emotional issues that aren't necessarily a result of PTSD. Excessive anger, irritability, inability to control what he says, forgetfulness, disorientation, blacking out, etc - while they can be signs of PTSD, it's more likely that they're due to TBI if they are very pervasive and, more specifically, if they seem not to be consistent or make any sense to him.

Wife of, your post hit a huge spot with me, too, regarding the hormone swings. I've had doctors in the past comment on whether or not my hormone levels are balanced because I am so off the map when I get really out of it. However, for me, the TBI is also responsible for my emotional symptoms. I have pseudo-bulbar affect and hyperemotionalism (it's the sort of stuff you see in people with Parkinson's disease or Multiple Sclerosis or ALS, where a person will not be able to control their emotions properly) and my impulse control is completely shot.

When combined with antipsych meds that I'm supposed to be on for the psychotic symptoms and PTSD, and borderline personality disorder, my brain hits the berserk button pretty much 100% of the time. I'm lucky I'm lucid at all.

But for the OP, the symptoms of TBI can be basically anything at all, because the brain is responsible for all of our behaviors. Physical symptoms like spasms, jerks, "zoning out" (beyond dissociation), misjudging distances (cup goes on the floor instead of on the counter), tripping and falling all the time, stuttering/stumbling/slurring speech, too hot/too cold, too sexual, asexual, etc. Mental symptoms are more subtle because they overlap with PTSD.

Some stuff can include forgetting basic facts, forgetting to complete steps in a sequence, no impulse control, wild moodswings without triggers, aggression, passivity/docility, lack of motivation (i.e getting up to do things), confusing way of speaking, misunderstands what you say a lot (could be very obvious mistakes or could be misinterpreting the meaning constantly), not understanding sarcasm, trouble with executive or rote tasks, trouble paying the bills, getting groceries, doing household chores, personal hygiene, etc. I'm just speaking from experience or from what I've seen in others so there are literally millions of other symptoms, as there are so many diverse behaviors.

If you notice any behavior that seems exaggerated maybe you should write it down. If you have at least a list of things that are different you can begin to determine what's TBI and what's PTSD from there. Have you or he met with a neurologist?

There's a number of things I do when dealing with my TBI issues. For instance I have a PDA which records what I say and what others say in written format so I can look at what's being said. This helps me so I don't forget what I'm talking about or what's just been said as my short term memory is very poor. I also try and communicate via writing as much as I can because I am a very poor spoken communicator.

I also use post-it notes around my immediate sight to remind me of things, and I keep all of my necessities in one spot so I know where they are (keys, shoes, jacket, ID, smokes, lighter, etc). When people are talking to me and giving me instructions I tell them the best way to do that so it makes sense to me. I'm still dealing with a lot of these issues but those are some immediate things that helped me cope with my TBI.

Having a schedule of things I'm supposed to do helped a lot too, having someone prompt me to do things is helpful as well. Memory games and puzzles also helped me. I play Tetris a lot. It sounds stupid but it's actually proven to be useful in both TBI and PTSD, and they've done studies with veterans who've played Tetris and found minute relief from symptoms. Puzzles and thinking games are very challenging for me because my ability to do performance tasks is very poor, but they help in maintaining what skills I do have and improving, slowly, some of the ones that can be improved.

The biggest thing I do is basically tell people that this is what's wrong with me and I would appreciate it if they could take the time to slow down so I'm not lost in the dark. Unfortunately in my life this isn't really happening and there's a lot of frustration, but I am working on figuring that out too. Anyway I hope any of this helps, and I really think you both should go see a neurologist or even a speech-language pathologist who can help a lot with devising some treatment and coping options.
 
Just wanted to say that sea's post is a prime example of why "we" - supporters and sufferers alike, NEED to have this resource to communicate with each other. To help each other. Together.

Not just sufferers. Not just supporters. Together.

ISH
 
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